Posted on 12/03/2014 12:55:18 PM PST by abb
While questions mount regarding the credibility of an account of an alleged gang rape at a University of Virginia fraternity, police have yet to open a formal investigation.
University officials have said—as recently as Dec. 2—that they have been instructed by police not to discuss the specific incident because it is the subject of a police inquiry. But TIME has learned that so far, that inquiry has not crossed the threshold for the Charlottesville Police Department to treat it as a criminal investigation. Because the alleged incident took place at a fraternity house off campus, it falls under the jurisdiction of municipal law enforcement rather than the university’s own campus police.
Police had previously confirmed that UVA President Teresa Sullivan had contacted the department to request a criminal investigation and said they were reviewing a published account of the alleged incident. But police have not yet accumulated enough information to take the matter beyond an inquiry and open a formal investigation.
Asked by TIME for a response, Charlottesville Police spokesman Captain Gary Pleasants said he could not confirm that a formal investigation was underway and reiterated a previous statement that the department was “evaluating the next steps.” He added, “In most cases, a formal investigation would be launched when a victim of a crime or witness to that crime makes a report to the police.”
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why do I get the feeling she cheated on a boyfriend, got
caught is trying to deflect the blame?
Of course, I could just be an overly suspicious type.
IMO this is likely to fall all to pieces when examined. For instance, did the frat house in question actually have a party on the night in question?
Is there any physical evidence in the room in question? A lot harder to get rid of than most realize.
Does the "rapee" have extensive scarring on her back from shards of glass?
I suspect this will backfire and be shown to be largely if not entirely a fabrication.
Cries of "fake but accurate" will then ring out across the land.
What gripes my cookies the most is the presumption on the left that conservatives don't care about rape. I have two daughters, and I'm all in favor of capital punishment for actual rape. Ruining someone's life on the unsupported testimony of one other person, not so much.
http://www.rollingstone.com/culture/features/a-rape-on-campus-20141119?page=2
She won’t even name the suspects so it’s not even that. I have a feeling that this was someone who told a big tale to her friends and never thought a reporter would show up at her door an make this major news. As soon as the police question her she will fess up. I hope the Rolling Stone reporter has a backup job in mind.
By ‘remarkable’ do you mean ‘fake but accurate?’
This has all started from one hyperventilating, exaggerated article published in “Rolling Stone” - which read like a bad movie script.
From what I have seen, the author’s article and statements have already started to fall apart.
... and it happened (or didn’t) two years ago.
And... Regardless of the facts of this particular case, still standing are the claims of widespread sexual assault and a campus administration which downplays it.
We conservatives see two things here: One is a possible false-rape claim and a mob rush to blame frat boys. The other is the secular progressive campus which DOES INDEED “promote” the secular progressive climate of easy sex, easy booze, drunkenness, recreational drugs, recreational sex, pornography, hookup sex, anything goes sex, non-marital sex, underage sex, drunk sex, sex sex sex sex booze and sex. And abortion a few weeks later. And sex.
Thugish men have raped women since the days of Neandertals, in slave days, in Puritan days and so on. Our claim here should be that the secular progressive campus tolerates a wide variety of activites (sex, drugs, booze, porn) filling the gap between a Godly life all the way up the edge of non-consensual sexual assault and rape. Everything else is normalized. Rape is just the next thing.
which is why MOST victims of rape never report it....the blame will always be cast on them....their liars...their drunks...they're sluts..they asked for it..and God forbide if they ever dared to have sex with anyone else in their lives because that occasion will be widely broadcast.....
but maybe these frat boys will do like Kobe Bryant...just quietly pay his victim off to stop the civil suits......
But what if it never even happened? See the Duke Lacrosse Case for the pattern.
What you say has merit . . . just not enough info yet.
> By ‘remarkable’ do you mean ‘fake but accurate?’
The specifics of the primary case in the story have the usual funny smell. Two years ago. Never went to the cops. Friends didn’t take her to the ER. Friends shied away. But then this is the sort of irrational/inexplicable reaction of girls who are raped, which happens every day..... So I dunno about the main event claims. I take it as true, but it smells...... but then....
The general claims of climate are very likely accurate, IMO, because they are the result of secular progressive ideology. We conservatives can jump on this. When liberals throw horny young men and horny young women together into dorms, frat houses, with porn, dope, and booze, with free abortion, free pills, lessons on empowerment, lessons on feminism, lessons on male-female equivalence, lessons on sex sex sex sex, then a lot of charged up sex is gonna happen, and also a lot of non-consensual sex. The boys have been told everything else goes, so why not the next thing.
The suckers probably videoed the event and posted it online somewhere.
The Rule of Law was supposed to do away with Witch-burning. But notice how the left believes in the practice when it suits their purpose. They have to be called on it every time.
Very well said. Agree 100%.
I find particularly amazing the theory that a drunk or drugged female is not at all responsible for what happens to her in that condition, but a drunk or drugged male is entirely responsible for his own actions.
This is almost, but not quite, as amazing to me as the large number of males who continue to try to pick up random females and taken them home, despite the obvious fact that any one of them could ruin his life at her whim.
Isn’t that a lot like Russian Roulette?
And how can you, or anybody else, possibly know that?
It would require absolute certainty as to how many rapes had actually occurred versus the number reported.
Only God has that knowledge.
Here's the problem. Most females who are date-raped presumably know it's he said - she said.
Which it is. Making proof beyond a reasonable doubt very difficult. In fact, in most cases I would say it's impossible. For what other crime do we convict person A on the unsupported testimony of person B?
When a young woman goes off alone with a young man, she is stating in the most eloquent way possible that she trusts him utterly.
There are young men deserving of such trust. Though not particularly young anymore, I was trustworthy then as I am now. Nothing bad would happen to a young lady with me while I was still alive and able to fight.
But how do young ladies know this about random guys they meet in bars, online or at a frat party? Yet they demonstrate by their behavior that they do indeed trust them.
Illogical and frankly stupid behavior.
It should be noted that any young man who takes a young women home is demonstrating the same level of unjustified trust, albeit in a different way.
December 3, 2014 4:25 PM
Yes, You Should Be Skeptical about the UVA Rape Story
Truth matters more than the narrative
By Charles C. W. Cooke
Or Bill Cosby frame-up?
The original story in Rolling Stone reads more like an article in True Confessions than an actual incident.
It boggles the mind that of the 6 men allegedly involved, the hundreds of people at the frat party, the four friends of the victim, who supposedly came upon her bruised, bloody and covered in broken glass, not one was interviewed by the author for the article. Not one.
These same four friends advised her not to go to the ER, even though she had been gang-raped by 6 men and a beer bottle, or seek any kind of medical attention, because it might damage her reputation. They also were not interviewed.
In fact, no one who might have had any knowledge of the incident was interviewed for the article, other than alleged victim, who remains anonymous, and various feminists who spout the party line. There is not one shred of independent evidence from any source who isn’t reporting only what the victim herself told them. Dan Rather would be so proud!
When the truth comes out, it will be that there was no incident, and that the story was manufactured to bring awareness of the rape culture which probably actually exists only in the minds of people just like the author.
If it was actually happening, they wouldn’t have to make stuff up.
Telling is the fact that two weeks after the story hits the headlines, as of today no complaint has been filed with the police.
That tells me that the complaining witness, aka alleged victim, is afraid of the consequences of filing a false police report.
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