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1 posted on 11/19/2014 8:54:20 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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It should be you live here for 10 years before you are eligible for welfare, food stamps, etc.


2 posted on 11/19/2014 8:55:39 AM PST by BunnySlippers (I LOVE BULL MARKETS . . .)
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While he's at it, Obama can declare the sky to be green.
3 posted on 11/19/2014 8:56:26 AM PST by Cowboy Bob (They are called "Liberals" because the word "parasite" was already taken.)
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To think my family had to pay several thousand in legal fees, wait a year, pay DHS fees, wait, and finally get accepted.

Break the law and get rewarded.


4 posted on 11/19/2014 8:57:01 AM PST by TigerClaws
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“They control the House. They control the Senate,” he said of Republicans in the next Congress. “Tell them to stop whining. Get the legislation done and put it on the president’s desk. That will stop everything.”

As long as they put a bill on the President's desk that gives him everything he wants.

5 posted on 11/19/2014 8:57:10 AM PST by kabar
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Gutierrez said they won’t be able to sign up for welfare, food stamps and other federal benefits.

Oh, yes, like you can keep your doctor, too.

6 posted on 11/19/2014 8:57:26 AM PST by VRW Conspirator (Es Mi Partido, Ahora!)
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And if you believe all that bovine excrement, I can put you in touch with a Nigerian prince who has a fortune to give you.


7 posted on 11/19/2014 8:58:27 AM PST by tgusa (gun control: deep breath, sight alignment, squeeze the trigger .......)
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Gutierrez said they won’t be able to sign up for welfare, food stamps and other federal benefits.

Yet...all that will be slipped in (quietly) at a later date.

8 posted on 11/19/2014 8:59:15 AM PST by Leaning Right (Why am I holding this lantern? I am looking for the next Reagan.)
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I saw this liar smiling through an interview in which he said there would be complete background check in this proposal ...but, I guarantee there will be no cross checking to see if applicants have committed felony election fraud by voting while here illegally.

IN FACT, I personally talked with John McCain's office about that idea and was told that such a suggestion would be argumentative and non productive. I never got through to Cruz's office, but I left several messages and sent faxes - no reply.

10 posted on 11/19/2014 9:01:54 AM PST by Baynative (Did you ever notice that atheists don't dare sue Muslims?)
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He’s excited because if this goes through, and he stays in congress, he becomes the Latino Jackson and Sharpton. He will become a major player in American politics. I doubt he cares about any of these illegals personally.


11 posted on 11/19/2014 9:03:22 AM PST by dowcaet
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Obama has no authority to do this

Obama is violating the separation of powers in the Constitution which is the most essential element to a free society.

He's making congress and our votes irrelevant ,becoming a dictator

this is tyranny

The presidency is inherently a weak office not what the media makes it out to be

The states came together to form a weak federal government that's why this is called the United States, the States and the people have the power not a single marxist/democrat moron called Obama

time for protests, legal challenges to the supreme court, and strikes , impeachment, and a constitutional convention until this creep obama resigns and this huge federal government goes away

13 posted on 11/19/2014 9:04:18 AM PST by Democrat_media (call Congress 202-224-3121 to stop Obama's executive order for Amnesty for illegals)
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Sounds like the snake Gutierrez is singing from a particular piece of sheet music.

Don't be fooled - citizenship with all attendant benefits is the goal, and sooner than later.

Words to the contrary are Gruberisms. They are playing us for fools again.

14 posted on 11/19/2014 9:04:32 AM PST by skeeter
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If what Gutierrez is saying is true, I really wonder whether the best thing for Republicans to do is ... nothing.

At least from a legislative standpoint. The big prize here is path to citizenship/voting rights and the President can’t do that unilaterally. The Republicans claim that Obama’s completely poisoned the well on immigration and they won’t deal with him at all on it until he rescinds.

In the meantime places like CA and NM, even Harry Reid’s Nevada, get flooded with immigrants who now demand services that those states can’t really afford. But with the GOP running the entire appropriations process, the FedGov won’t help subsidize.

Think of it as sitting back and passively allowing the Dems to inflict Cloward-Piven on themselves.


16 posted on 11/19/2014 9:06:02 AM PST by tanknetter
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Yet somehow all of these people will start voting immediately.


20 posted on 11/19/2014 9:11:51 AM PST by BlueStateRightist (Government is best which governs least.)
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Obama is violating the most important principle in the Constitution the separation of powers. Separation of Powers is also the basic tenet of freedom

with open borders to the 3rd world the USA will be destroyed in a few years.


21 posted on 11/19/2014 9:12:08 AM PST by Democrat_media (call Congress 202-224-3121 to stop Obama's executive order for Amnesty for illegals)
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Doesn't matter what restrictions are put in place, they will not be enforced.

Once you decide that the feral government gets to pick-and-choose which laws it wishes to enforce and whom to enforce them against, laws no longer matter.

22 posted on 11/19/2014 9:13:40 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (Any energy source that requires a subsidy is, by definition, "unsustainable.")
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I love how, by Dem logic, you can repeatedly do something illegal for 5-10 years and somehow pass a background check.


26 posted on 11/19/2014 9:16:55 AM PST by edpc (Wilby 2016)
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Why should Gowdy and Schumer or anyone in congress write any more immigration laws? Zero doesn’t abide by the laws already on the books. Congress should force zero to abide by all current laws, and if he doesn’t then they shouldn’t even discuss making any new laws with him in office.


27 posted on 11/19/2014 9:17:37 AM PST by Reddy (B.O. stinks)
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No, that’s not what is going to happen. What is going to happen is that illegals are going to continue being illegal, and when caught, the cops are just going to let them walk. They’re not going to go submit fingerprints, pay for background checks, etc. They’re going to continue exactly how they’re going now. They’ll continue to get paid under the table or under a fake SSI card, they’ll continue to pull benefits for their anchor babies, and life will change little.

All that will happen is that deportations will come to a crushing halt. Sure, maybe some might go through the process, but most won’t even bother to fill out the initial paperwork.

Evidence? Look at Reagan’s amnesty. Illegals don’t want to work within the system - if they did, they’d be here legally. Line jumpers don’t go get into another line.


28 posted on 11/19/2014 9:17:39 AM PST by kingu (Everything starts with slashing the size and scope of the federal government.)
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If the republicans let him get away with this, nothing will stop him later. He will have a free hand. He may have one now.
29 posted on 11/19/2014 9:20:29 AM PST by Know et al (Keep on Freepin'!!!)
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Gutierrez said “there is no citizenship” in the plan.

“The president has no authority. Only through an act of Congress can they ever be granted citizenship,” he said.

Rep. Gutierrez is being disingenuous here (duh) in talking of “citizenship.”
The President lacks authority to grant LAWFUL PERMANENT RESIDENCE (a/k/a “green cards”) to anyone through an executive order. (Doesn’t mean he won’t try, of course.)


32 posted on 11/19/2014 9:25:39 AM PST by eddiespaghetti ((with the meatball eyes))
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