Posted on 11/19/2014 8:54:20 AM PST by SeekAndFind
Rep. Luis Gutierrez (D-Ill.), who leads the Immigration Task Force in the Congressional Hispanic Caucus, offered some clues as to what could be in President Obama’s executive order.
“I think the president is going to choose between five and 10 years, that is that you have to be in the United States for five to 10 years and you have to be working here and you are going to pay for a background check,” Gutierrez said on Fox last night. “You’re going to submit your fingerprints and they come back clear. He is going to give you a work authorization for two years and a Social Security card. He’s going to put you on the books paying taxes. And I think he is going to include that before you submit for an application you have roots in America. And I think that’s what he is going to do.”
“But that’s only going to be part. That’s going to be the largest part what he does in the number of people that’s about three million people. But I think what he’s going to do — even he’s going to do stuff for agricultural, farmers in this country, they need a million.”
Gutierrez said “there is no citizenship” in the plan.
“The president has no authority. Only through an act of Congress can they ever be granted citizenship,” he said. “Think of it this way. Here is how I look at it, like is he going to set them aside and say ‘I’m not going to prosecute these people, I’m not going after them so I get to — so I can go after the really bad guys and use the power of the government, the deportations will continue, but go after another.’”
Gutierrez said they won’t be able to sign up for welfare, food stamps and other federal benefits.
“And they can’t get a Pell grant to go to college. They cannot. Obviously we are raising money in our own community to help them, but from private sector,” the congressman said. “No, there won’t be any government benefits. And I just want to make clear to the American public — even the background check, they have to pay. The processing of their documentation, in order to get that work permit, probably will be around $500. There cannot be a cent of tax dollar money used even in granting them the work authorization. They must pay for it out of their pocket.”
He estimated four to five months from the period of Obama’s announcement to when illegal immigrants can start applying for legal status under the order.
Gutierrez suggested locking Rep. Trey Gowdy (R-S.C.) and Sen. Chuck Schumer (D-N.Y.) in a room together until they arrive at a compromise immigration bill. “Let them come back in 45 days,” he said.
“They control the House. They control the Senate,” he said of Republicans in the next Congress. “Tell them to stop whining. Get the legislation done and put it on the president’s desk. That will stop everything.”
Obama is violating the most important principle in the Constitution the separation of powers. Separation of Powers is also the basic tenet of freedom
with open borders to the 3rd world the USA will be destroyed in a few years.
Once you decide that the feral government gets to pick-and-choose which laws it wishes to enforce and whom to enforce them against, laws no longer matter.
There are MILLIONS of illegals collecting welfare, and food stamps right now. Hell, just in California alone!
And the most relevant one here, like assuming the democrats will allow an initiative of theirs to be rolled back - formerly illegal immigrants having their legal status revoked.
Gutierrez said they won’t be able to sign up for welfare, food stamps and other federal benefits.
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Reminds me of the other big lies...
“Money is the root of all evil”
“I’ll only put the head in”
“I was just helping the sheep over the fence”
I love how, by Dem logic, you can repeatedly do something illegal for 5-10 years and somehow pass a background check.
Why should Gowdy and Schumer or anyone in congress write any more immigration laws? Zero doesn’t abide by the laws already on the books. Congress should force zero to abide by all current laws, and if he doesn’t then they shouldn’t even discuss making any new laws with him in office.
No, that’s not what is going to happen. What is going to happen is that illegals are going to continue being illegal, and when caught, the cops are just going to let them walk. They’re not going to go submit fingerprints, pay for background checks, etc. They’re going to continue exactly how they’re going now. They’ll continue to get paid under the table or under a fake SSI card, they’ll continue to pull benefits for their anchor babies, and life will change little.
All that will happen is that deportations will come to a crushing halt. Sure, maybe some might go through the process, but most won’t even bother to fill out the initial paperwork.
Evidence? Look at Reagan’s amnesty. Illegals don’t want to work within the system - if they did, they’d be here legally. Line jumpers don’t go get into another line.
Many states don’t check.
All I know is that was enough to change the formerly swing state of California deep blue for the rest of my lifetime.
Gutierrez said “there is no citizenship” in the plan.
“The president has no authority. Only through an act of Congress can they ever be granted citizenship,” he said.
Rep. Gutierrez is being disingenuous here (duh) in talking of “citizenship.”
The President lacks authority to grant LAWFUL PERMANENT RESIDENCE (a/k/a “green cards”) to anyone through an executive order. (Doesn’t mean he won’t try, of course.)
It resulted in 2.7 million APPLICATIONS, of which less than 75% were valid applications (many applicants were those who wanted to bypass the normal immigration system and applied during trips to the United States, misunderstanding the program.) Of the remaining 2 million applications, less than half paid the fees associated with the application. Of the million applications that were initially paid for, less than 600,000 completed the next round and paid their fees.
All in all, only a little over 500,000 permanent resident cards were issued.
I know you likely saw the images of the huge lines to fill out applications. There were very few application centers, and if the numbers bantered around were actually correct, there would have been over 500,000 permanent resident cards issued in California. Those lines would have had to have been miles longer than they actually were to accommodate that number.
How could their background check come back clear when they have been living in the country illegally (and probably illegally working using falsified documents) for the entire time?
Yep, that is the Rat version of compromise.
Interesting - source? I’d like to read more.
Doesn’t matter what he does. It will be illegal and over turned by the courts or legal legislation.
You have the proof, thanks.
In 1986 the government estimated one million would apply. The true number turned out to be 2.7 million.
Obama's first executive amnesty, the 2012 DACA Dreamer amnesty, has signed up 580,000 so far, which provided them with ID cards, work permits, and SSNs. An estimated 1.8 million are eligible.
I have no doubt that millions will apply. The bottleneck will be in processing. This is going to take years. In the meantime, deportation will almost come to a halt. There will be no workplace checks.
And we know from the 1986 amnesty that there will be a surge of illegals to take advantage of the amnesty. In 1986 you had to be here for five years before being allowed to apply. Phony document mills were set up blocks from the processing centers to provide applicants with whatever fraudulent documents they needed.
None of this will be reversed. The country is finished.
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