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White House: Hey — Gruber Wasn’t Really Obamacare’s Architect
Pajamas Media ^ | 11/13/2014 | Bryan Preston

Posted on 11/13/2014 8:34:36 AM PST by SeekAndFind

Posted By Bryan Preston On November 13, 2014 @ 7:51 am In Obamacare | 4 Comments

Jonathan Gruber’s “stupid” comments have sent the Obama White House into a spin.

When this White House gets under fire, it naturally turns to the press outlets that it has used as tools for years, including Josh Marshall’s Talking Points Memo.

The name ought to give that site away: It’s not about facts, it’s about spin. Talking points.

So the under-fire Obama White House turns to the talking pointers to deliver some talking points on Gruber’s “stupid” remarks.

To wit: We were transparent the whole time we were working backroom deals and holding votes at midnight and on holidays! Honest!

The Obama White House now also suggests that Gruber wasn’t really the Obamacare architect.

An administration official also noted to TPM that — while Gruber is often described as an “architect” of Obamacare because he was a key consultant to the administration and was heavily involved in developing the Massachusetts health reform law that served as a starting point for the ACA — “he did not work in the White House or play the same role in developing the Affordable Care Act.”

About that. They’re lying, again.

Gruber had a total of about $400,000 in contracts with the Obama White House in 2009 and 2010 to provide “Technical Assistance in Evaluating Options for National Healthcare Reform.” Gruber had previously designed Romneycare in Massachusetts. He was brought in to design a similar system by the Obama White House after it took power.

That’s all according to a January 2010 ABC News story. According to that story, Gruber wasn’t disclosing his monetary relationship with the Obama administration while he was offering public comments and editorials supporting Obamacare, until some leftwing bloggers sniffed his relation out and reported it. The mainstream media followed.

So yes, he was the architect of Obamacare. The Obama White House still thinks that its supporters are too stupid to figure that out.



TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: california; gruber; grubervideo; jonathangruber; nancypelosi; obamacare; obamacaredeceit; obamacarelies; obamagruber; obamalies; obamcare; romneycare; stupidvoters; whgruber
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1 posted on 11/13/2014 8:34:36 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind
"An administration official also noted to TPM that — while Gruber is often described as an “architect” of Obamacare because he was a key consultant to the administration and was heavily involved in developing the Massachusetts health reform law that served as a starting point for the ACA — “he did not work in the White House or play the same role in developing the Affordable Care Act.”"

So, Romney is the real architect of 0DontCare?

2 posted on 11/13/2014 8:39:16 AM PST by Paladin2
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To: Paladin2

Actually, go back to Hillary’s proposal which appears to be the same as Obamacare


3 posted on 11/13/2014 8:42:51 AM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: Paladin2
Obama Care was voted on by our congress not Romney.

A lot of Americans and some freepers have amnesia when it comes to this documented ObamaCare history in Congress!

Every single democrat senator and every single democrat congressit voted to make Obamacare the law without reading nor understanding what they voted for.

Every single Republican in Congress voted against this Obamacare.

So the very stupid rats in congress own ObamaCare as per their highly paid Herr Gruber‘s You Tube comments.

4 posted on 11/13/2014 8:45:02 AM PST by Grampa Dave (The Democrats, who run America are too old, too rich, and too very/very white elitist losers!.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Drone, meet Mr. Gruber. Mr. Gruber, drone.


5 posted on 11/13/2014 8:45:02 AM PST by Billthedrill
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To: SeekAndFind
"...The Obama White House still thinks that its supporters are too stupid to figure that out..."

A paraphrase of an Upton Sinclair quote would seem to be appropriate: "...It is difficult to get a man to understand something when his salary intellectual honesty, sanity and self-image depends upon his not understanding it..."

Describes the inherent double-think necessary for liberalism to exist.

6 posted on 11/13/2014 8:45:18 AM PST by rlmorel (The Media's Principles: Conflict must exist. Doesn't exist? Create it. Exists? Exacerbate it.)
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To: SeekAndFind
Gruber is getting the Trotsky Treatment.

It is a longstanding tradition among Marxist dictators.

7 posted on 11/13/2014 8:48:27 AM PST by Bubba_Leroy (The Obamanation Continues)
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To: SeekAndFind
Whitehouse reveals the true Obamacare Architect


8 posted on 11/13/2014 8:48:35 AM PST by PGR88
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To: SeekAndFind

Note to the Obama Administration: Toothpaste, once it is out of the tube, is very difficult to get back in.


9 posted on 11/13/2014 8:48:49 AM PST by Jimmy Valentine (DemocRATS - when they speak, they lie; when they are silent, they are stealing the American Dream)
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To: Sacajaweau

Stuff like this happened all the time before but with today’s media, libs and progressive can’t get away with it anymore.. They don’t know how to respond because MSM always protected them ...


10 posted on 11/13/2014 8:49:08 AM PST by scbison
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To: SeekAndFind

http://townhall.com/tipsheet/guybenson/2013/11/19/friendly-reminder-obamacare-is-hillarycare-n1748971


11 posted on 11/13/2014 8:53:12 AM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: SeekAndFind
> "he did not work in the White House"

This is a flat out lie.

Go the the White House visitor log webpage, scroll down and locate the following link to a downloadable zip file:

To download data released from 2009-2010 in its raw format, click here. (.zip of a .csv, 20MB)

The White House Visitor Log shows Mr. Gruber's visits

NAMELAST  NAMEFIRST  NAMEMID  UIN  BDGNBR  ACCESS_TYPE  TOA  POA  TOD  POD  APPT_MADE_DATE  APPT_START_DATE  APPT_END_DATE  APPT_CANCEL_DATE  Total_People  LAST_UPDATEDBY  POST  LastEntryDate  TERMINAL_SUFFIX  visitee_namelast  visitee_namefirst  MEETING_LOC  MEETING_ROOM  CALLER_NAME_LAST  CALLER_NAME_FIRST  CALLER_ROOM  Description  RELEASE_DATE 
GRUBER JONATHAN
U81208 71444 VA 3/26/2009 12:53:38PM D0102 3/26/2009 2:22:04PM A5 3/25/2009 5:33:11PM 3/26/2009 12:30:00PM 3/26/2009 11:59:00PM
P6 WIN 3/25/2009 5:34:35PM P6 ORSZAG PETER OEOB 252 ENGLISH LEANDRA

11/25/2009
GRUBER JONATHAN
U77294 78296 VA 2/3/2010 15:41 A0401 2/3/2010 16:28 A4 2/3/2010 10:53 2/3/2010 15:40 2/3/2010 23:59
RC WIN 2/3/2010 10:53 RC FURMAN JASON WH WW SIEGEL AVRA

5/28/2010

Jason Furman: Principal Deputy Director National Economic Council, Economic Policy Director for Obama for America.

Avra Siegel: National Economic Council

In addition to Obama himself, the meetings attended by Gruber were presided over by the president’s chief economic adviser, Lawrence Summers, then budget director Peter Orzag and Nancy-Ann DeParle, the president’s chief adviser on health care, the records show. link

 

12 posted on 11/13/2014 8:53:38 AM PST by Ray76 (We must destroy the Uniparty or be destroyed by them.)
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To: SeekAndFind

So, the government paid Gruber $400,000 for nothing? Is that what they’re telling us?


13 posted on 11/13/2014 8:54:00 AM PST by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America
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To: SeekAndFind

He’s fake,,, but accurate..


14 posted on 11/13/2014 8:56:27 AM PST by ßuddaßudd (>> F U B O << "What the hell kind of country is this if I can only hate a man if he's white?")
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To: Paladin2
It was a group effort going back to Kennedy Care.

One of the many architects is on the Supreme Court. While the Democrats ruled the Senate she could defend this with impunity. We shall see how not recusing herself flies when Harry Reid is no longer majority leader. I am thinking Ted Cruz will make it an issue that can't be ignored nor simply weathered.

15 posted on 11/13/2014 8:56:46 AM PST by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: SeekAndFind
Lenin and Trosky.

Stalin and Yezhov

Has Gruber been removed from photos with Obama yet?

16 posted on 11/13/2014 8:56:54 AM PST by Bubba_Leroy (The Obamanation Continues)
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To: scbison
Republicans, Conservatives, and Constitutionalists NEED BETTER PR. We should be posting the message that the opposition considers average Americans to be STUPID.

Freepers, this is why we can't seem to make the electorate loyal to us. They aren't getting the facts. If they have the facts, most Americans ARE smart enough to know best how to plan and live their own lives.

I'd paste the quote on Americans being stupid on every billboard from sea to shining sea.

17 posted on 11/13/2014 8:58:32 AM PST by July4
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To: SeekAndFind
White House: we would never accuse you of being stupid......now open up and swallow this spoonful of BS.
18 posted on 11/13/2014 8:59:21 AM PST by liberalh8ter (The only difference between flash mob 'urban yutes' and U.S. politicians is the hoodies.)
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To: Bubba_Leroy

ROFLMAO!


19 posted on 11/13/2014 8:59:29 AM PST by MUDDOG
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To: Paladin2

Gruber met with Obama, at Obama’s request in 2006, BEFORE Barry had announced his candidacy for President. The meeting was, (gasp) about “healthcare”.


20 posted on 11/13/2014 9:01:41 AM PST by machogirl
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