[Oldeconomybuyer]

The 11 million illegal aliens that Obama wants to grant Amnesty is equal to the combined population of Hawaii, Maine, New Hampshire, Rhode Island, Montana, Delaware, South Dakota, Alaska, North Dakota, DC, Vermont, and Wyoming.

[VRW Conspirator]

And let us not ignore the tidal wave of illegals flooding across the border to get their fair share.

Oh, and they will also have to be pardoned.

ES MI PARTIDO, AHORA!

[Don Corleone]

Without the 67 votes necessary to convict, Obama feels he is golden, (and he is). Unless the Pubbies can convince enough moderate Democrats that their future is in peril if Obama continues along his anti-constitutional track nothing can or will happen. I am even somewhat suspect of a few of the RINO Republicans when it comes to voting for conviction. BTW, how many votes does it take to impeach, say, an Attorney general? Anyone know?

[Gaffer]

There are much more - much, much more - than 11 million illegal aliens here.

[Logical me]

Millions of these illegals cannot work anyway. Too young, no experience, mothers, etc. Will they get cards too? This is nothing more than a political move by the worst President America ever had. He is a rotten communists black Muslim traitor and will not follow established rules. A child like insane fool.

[stanne]

He’s leaving out the many RiNOs who want this fro the business community donors.

McConnell looks like a turtle but he acts, toward decent Americans, like Don Corleone v Tattaglia

[babygene]

“The nation overwhelmingly objects to Obama’s immigration lawlessness, but it has no stomach for the only effective counter to it — the plausible threat of impeachment. “

I’m not so sure the nation has no stomach for it. I sure do...

[chajin]

Absent the credible threat of impeachment, Obama will pardon millions of illegal aliens.

I think one of the lessons of last Tuesday's election is that Obama does not care what happens, as long as his agenda continues. There is a part of him, I fear, that would relish being the Impeached Martyr, as the Proof that Racism Still Rules Among the Privileged.

[ez]

But the President has the press in his corner...

Therefore, even the threat of impeachment is not sufficient to stop the pardons because he may welcome the opportunity to play the victim of the dastardly Republican Congress in the public’s view.

The leaders of Congress likely know this, so, checkmate.

[wkg]

Question please...If what is going to occur is illegal under current immigration laws and President can not issue EO’s that are contrary to law, then, aren’t the bureaucrats subject to criminal charges if they act to implement an illegal EO?

[blueunicorn6]

Impeachment isn’t enough. Impeachment is just firing the President. That’s not enough. The problem, the real problem, is the Democrat Party. The Democrat Party is a tick. It lives by sucking life from The United States Of America. The Democrat Party tick is now life threatening. It is not only huge and sucking the life out of The United States, but it has many viruses in its gut that it pours into our nation. It infects us with laziness and shoddy work and anger and ignoring our responsibilities.
Obama is a horrible President, but it is the Democrat Party that has given him the opportunity to prove that to the world. The Democrat Party must be dismantled. The tick is too large and dangerous to ignore.

[umgud]

Without amnesty, anchor babies, their babies and chain migration will massively change our complexion. Amnesty will just rapidly speed up the US 3rd world latinization process.

[uncitizen]

The nation overwhelmingly objects to Obama’s immigration lawlessness, but it has no stomach for the only effective counter to it — the plausible threat of impeachment.

this might not be true any longer.

[NonValueAdded]

To be technical, Impeachment is very simple and the House will Impeach by a large margin. There are ample grounds to do this now. However, the chances that the Senate would vote for removal are slim to none. Under current circumstances, that is.

[Temujinshordes]

Okay, if impeachment is out, something must be done to restore the constitutional balance of power abrogated by congress. DACA is illegal. Congress still controls the money. Freeze every penny for DACA execution. Cut funding for every one of Obama’s pet projects. Cut USAF funding for Air Force One. Cut funding for the president’s “advisors” such as Valerie Jarrett. Hell, cut funding for his arugula salads! The money can be used like a choke chain on a mad dog.

[moehoward]

I understand the ‘long ball’ strategy from Krauthammer (and others) of not taking the Impeachment bait. It’s scorched earth, nuclear option, etc, but it may very well be the only arrow in the quiver.

Many on the left are astounded at the high level of delusion and denial going on in the White House, so there will be ample support should 0bama actually sign the order. The threat of it from ‘his side’ may actually prevent it from happening.

[ez]

Perhaps another tack...

Don’t the election results in the State legislatures greatly improve the odds of a Constitutional Convention?

[Vaduz]

Flood a country with third world people and you get a third world nation Nero’s plan is working.

[ReaganGeneration2]

One point McCarthy makes is that withholding funding won’t stop it - a blanket pardon takes no money. Withholding funds helps, since it’s harder for the illegals to prove themselves without documentation that DACA provides, but the damage gets done. Think of the chaos.

Another point is that the threat of Impeachment/conviction is now nonexistent. But that is a weapon that can hold him back from this. The threat. With the electorate overwhelmingly against amnesty, and being 2 years away from an election, why not try it? The goal is to stop amnesty.

You need both powers: the purse and the threat of Impeachment/conviction.

[spodefly]

If Obama unilaterally grants amnesty to X million illegal aliens, he is saying FU to America’s legal citizens ... he is deliberately changing the demographic and electoral future of the country, replacing legal taxpaying citizens with wards-of-the-state whose hands are out to Uncle Sugar for a lifetime of care.

Impeachment is the least of what should happen to him.

I will comply with NOTHING that comes from DC if they do not stop this treason.

[nathanbedford]

Rely always on Andrew McCarthy to make his meaning plain and to bring to his writing a real coherence and a relevance to the Constitution. Let's see if we can do the same from a political viewpoint.

The threat is that Obama will flood America with 10 million to 30 million illegal aliens who will vote Democrat thus disenfranchising millions of bona fide citizens and consigning conservatism to permanent minority status. The fight is over citizenship pure and simple because that would be the means of our undoing. As a political movement, we conservatives can survive 10 million to 30 million aliens in our midst for a given amount of time but we cannot survive a like amount of aliens voting for socialism.

As deleterious to the economy as an in-flood of 30 million illegals seeking jobs which would devastate the middle-class unquestionably it would be, that is not the fight. The damage can be undone providing Republicans take the White House and the right conservative is put into the Oval Office. If a Bush is put there or a Christie, there can be no doubt that a compromise deal will be struck and the voting rolls will swell with illegal aliens.

Despite my accolades to McCarthy for his clarity, I confess I am unable to trace the steps from executive orders and executive clemency to voting citizenship. He states that liberal judges will probably rule that the Obama's clemency wipes the slate clean and therefore those illegals possessed of Obama's amnesty can be moved to the head of the line. I assume Obama would then implement a mass citizenship drive no doubt with far more efficiency than he managed for the implementation of Obamacare.

Obama would have about 26 months to get these people enrolled as citizens, a formidable task which can only be accomplished by mass swearing ins etc. it may be that Obama would seek court orders from his judges ratifying the status of these illegals as proper candidates for citizenship. These decrees would then elevate them up above the level which can be undone by an executive order subsequently issued by a conservative president. In any event, Obama probably figures it's a good bet that the next president will be unable politically, if not legally, to undo his fait accompli.

I confess that I am largely ignorant of the laws concerning the path to citizenship so I cannot venture how monkey wrenches might be thrown into the procedures by which millions of Americans would be created out of illegal aliens. Andrew McCarthy does not touch on this but there must be several intermediate steps vulnerable to interdiction. These possibilities must be searched out because the alternative is to fall back to Andrew McCarthy's position that impeachment and only impeachment, or at least the credible threat of impeachment, has a chance of stopping Obama.

Now, we must consider the downside of impeachment. Charles Krauthammer makes a very telling point that Obama is probably courting impeachment as a way to reverse the verdict of the people in this election. It might appeal to his narcissism as a glorious end to his career to become a political martyr to millions of people of color. He probably believes as does Krauthammer that impeachment would fail and likely would produce a pushback even more damaging than that which allegedly resulted from the impeachment of William Jefferson Clinton. These are imponderables to be sure but if the fight over citizenship can be won short of impeachment that option should be taken to avoid considerable downside risks of impeaching the First Black President and falling short of removal.

What if Andrew McCarthy is right, impeachment is in fact the only way to stop Obama from destroying the Republic through unrestricted immigration? We conservatives would no doubt unhesitatingly say, impeach him even at the cost of predictable failure because the downside is literally the loss of the country. We might even find a few conservative senators who will fall on their swords with us but we would find damn few Rinos and no Democrats. The establishment of the Republican Party certainly will not risk breaking their rice bowls merely to save the Republic. So there is realistically small hope that impeachment will be attempted. Even if attempted, there is very little hope that it will succeed and result in removal from office. Even if attempted, successful, and removes Obama from office, even that does not necessarily mean that his plan will not have succeeded by the time impeachment is fully implemented. The point is not to impeach Obama but to keep illegal aliens out of our polling booths. That is the fight. It is for survival which means that if Obama succeeds we die.

I propose that counteroffensives on all fronts be initiated immediately. It is not too soon to condition the public to the threat and to open the public's mind to impeachment. As part of the counteroffensive all legislative options should be used as soon as Republicans gain control the Senate. Meanwhile, lawsuit after lawsuit in jurisdiction after jurisdiction should be undertaken. Somewhere, somehow we need an affirmative ruling which at least a delay is if it doesn't derail Obama's plan. As much money should be spent on television ads to educate the public to the threat of immigration, their loss of jobs, their increase taxes, their loss of community services and hospital care etc, to shape the political landscape so that some doubt is raised in Obama's mind that impeachment might actually succeed in his removal. In any event it is naïve to believe that the courts are not influenced by the political winds and if enough noise can be generated and if the 70% who oppose amnesty can be animated, the courts will listen and contrive some way to derail the process of baptizing citizens wholesale.

We must not forget that it was Republican senators who drove down Pennsylvania Avenue to tell Nixon that he had lost their support and must resign. Pressure must be brought against Democrats so that they abandon their lame-duck president in order to save their own seats. If a few hundred million dollars is spent (a fraction of the $3 billion spent on this recent midterm election) the entire picture for Democrats not just for immigration but for impeachment can be altered.

Congress is still possessed the power of the purse and it can strip all of the agencies responsible for making citizens of their budget. As one poster suggested, such a move would bring a veto by Obama and result in a shutdown of the government. Many of us do not believe that the Republicans would suffer as much damage as the establishment media would lead the country to believe from shutdowns, and I don't believe that a properly handled and advertised shutdown would be damaging if the public comes to understand that the alternative is unrestrained amnesty. In any event, it is a fight for survival and if the price of shutting down the government must be paid to survive, so be it. The question is how to make Rino Republicans see the light and that should be done, as Ronald Reagan said, by making them feel the heat.