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Amnesty and Impeachment
National Review Online ^ | November 8, 2014 | By Andrew C. McCarthy

Posted on 11/08/2014 6:53:29 AM PST by Oldeconomybuyer

Absent the credible threat of impeachment, Obama will pardon millions of illegal aliens.

There is high anxiety over President Obama’s impending unilateral amnesty order for millions of illegal aliens. How many millions? The estimates vary. On the low end, 3 to 8 million, assuming some correlation to the potential beneficiaries of the president’s already existing amnesty decrees (including DACA or Deferred Action on Childhood Arrivals). On the high end, as many as 9 to 34 million, factoring in likely categorical expansions of amnesty and their ramifications over the next several years.

The nation overwhelmingly objects to Obama’s immigration lawlessness, but it has no stomach for the only effective counter to it — the plausible threat of impeachment.

Nevertheless, Obama made clear again this week that he intends to push ahead with massive amnesty by executive order. Further infuriating the public with his cynicism, he has strategically but quite openly delayed his directive until after the election, as if to say, “The rubes are too stupid to grasp what I’m doing even when I make no secret of it!”

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Editorial; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: amnesty; andymccarthy; executiveamnesty; illegalaliens; impeachment; impeachobama; tyranny
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The 11 million illegal aliens that Obama wants to grant Amnesty is equal to the combined population of Hawaii, Maine, New Hampshire, Rhode Island, Montana, Delaware, South Dakota, Alaska, North Dakota, DC, Vermont, and Wyoming.
1 posted on 11/08/2014 6:53:29 AM PST by Oldeconomybuyer
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

And let us not ignore the tidal wave of illegals flooding across the border to get their fair share.

Oh, and they will also have to be pardoned.

ES MI PARTIDO, AHORA!


2 posted on 11/08/2014 6:57:57 AM PST by VRW Conspirator (There will be another crusade in our lifetime.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Without the 67 votes necessary to convict, Obama feels he is golden, (and he is). Unless the Pubbies can convince enough moderate Democrats that their future is in peril if Obama continues along his anti-constitutional track nothing can or will happen. I am even somewhat suspect of a few of the RINO Republicans when it comes to voting for conviction. BTW, how many votes does it take to impeach, say, an Attorney general? Anyone know?


3 posted on 11/08/2014 7:01:07 AM PST by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannoli. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

There are much more - much, much more - than 11 million illegal aliens here.


4 posted on 11/08/2014 7:01:20 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
Millions of these illegals cannot work anyway. Too young, no experience, mothers, etc. Will they get cards too? This is nothing more than a political move by the worst President America ever had. He is a rotten communists black Muslim traitor and will not follow established rules. A child like insane fool.
5 posted on 11/08/2014 7:02:40 AM PST by Logical me
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

He’s leaving out the many RiNOs who want this fro the business community donors.

McConnell looks like a turtle but he acts, toward decent Americans, like Don Corleone v Tattaglia


6 posted on 11/08/2014 7:04:38 AM PST by stanne
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To: Gaffer

right...they will not get 67 votes to impeach this guy... no freaking way...I guess I could be wrong , but I don’t think so...I don’t see the Senate every getting the votes to impeach the 1st black prez..

best bet is to remove all funding...then reverse the decision also by executive action..in 2016...

unfortunately, those illegals will be here to stay... and the floodgates of hell will open... from Mexico...

we ain’t seen nutt’n yet.


7 posted on 11/08/2014 7:04:45 AM PST by Chuzzlewit
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

“The nation overwhelmingly objects to Obama’s immigration lawlessness, but it has no stomach for the only effective counter to it — the plausible threat of impeachment. “

I’m not so sure the nation has no stomach for it. I sure do...


8 posted on 11/08/2014 7:05:06 AM PST by babygene
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To: Don Corleone
Obama is one man with a massive ego. With the losses from the election, the immigration issue has become about his defiance, like a petulant child. He will not listen and not do what's good for the country because he is not capable. He won't back down for any reason except maybe impeachment solely because of his ego. He wants to show that he's a big boy despite the wishes of the American citizens. It's all about him and his ego-one man against the American citizens. Too bad they have taken impeachment off the table.He's very immature.
9 posted on 11/08/2014 7:14:45 AM PST by dandiegirl
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
Absent the credible threat of impeachment, Obama will pardon millions of illegal aliens.

I think one of the lessons of last Tuesday's election is that Obama does not care what happens, as long as his agenda continues. There is a part of him, I fear, that would relish being the Impeached Martyr, as the Proof that Racism Still Rules Among the Privileged.

10 posted on 11/08/2014 7:17:04 AM PST by chajin ("There is no other name under heaven given among people by which we must be saved." Acts 4:12)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

But the President has the press in his corner...

Therefore, even the threat of impeachment is not sufficient to stop the pardons because he may welcome the opportunity to play the victim of the dastardly Republican Congress in the public’s view.

The leaders of Congress likely know this, so, checkmate.


11 posted on 11/08/2014 7:17:12 AM PST by ez (Muslims do not play well with others.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Question please...If what is going to occur is illegal under current immigration laws and President can not issue EO’s that are contrary to law, then, aren’t the bureaucrats subject to criminal charges if they act to implement an illegal EO?


12 posted on 11/08/2014 7:17:35 AM PST by wkg
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To: Chuzzlewit

Why? Why must they be here to stay? What has been done can usually be undone. Somebody says something can’t be fixed. I say what a man has made man can fix.

The trouble is the physical process of moving them and keeping them out. 34,000,000 is a pile of .....


13 posted on 11/08/2014 7:20:12 AM PST by Sequoyah101 (Obola brought to you by demorats. Hope you like your Change and live to tell it.ow pooh wash)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Impeachment isn’t enough. Impeachment is just firing the President. That’s not enough. The problem, the real problem, is the Democrat Party. The Democrat Party is a tick. It lives by sucking life from The United States Of America. The Democrat Party tick is now life threatening. It is not only huge and sucking the life out of The United States, but it has many viruses in its gut that it pours into our nation. It infects us with laziness and shoddy work and anger and ignoring our responsibilities.
Obama is a horrible President, but it is the Democrat Party that has given him the opportunity to prove that to the world. The Democrat Party must be dismantled. The tick is too large and dangerous to ignore.


14 posted on 11/08/2014 7:23:17 AM PST by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Without amnesty, anchor babies, their babies and chain migration will massively change our complexion. Amnesty will just rapidly speed up the US 3rd world latinization process.


15 posted on 11/08/2014 7:24:13 AM PST by umgud (I couldn't understand why the ball kept getting bigger......... then it hit me.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
The nation overwhelmingly objects to Obama’s immigration lawlessness, but it has no stomach for the only effective counter to it — the plausible threat of impeachment.

this might not be true any longer.

16 posted on 11/08/2014 7:24:52 AM PST by uncitizen
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

To be technical, Impeachment is very simple and the House will Impeach by a large margin. There are ample grounds to do this now. However, the chances that the Senate would vote for removal are slim to none. Under current circumstances, that is.


17 posted on 11/08/2014 7:30:08 AM PST by NonValueAdded (Pointing out dereliction of duty is NOT fear mongering, especially in a panDEMic)
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To: NonValueAdded

exactly... if impeachment has chance of success and final vote, then why begin the process? it’s wasted effort and an obvious chess move on his part... he wants it, heck he’s beggin for it!

look-—this guy could be impeached due to Benghazi, the IRS scandal and Fast and Furious alone... that’s enough and far worse then anything Nixon’s team set about to happen..

we don’t have the press... we will never have the press.... ever.........


18 posted on 11/08/2014 7:39:40 AM PST by Chuzzlewit
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Okay, if impeachment is out, something must be done to restore the constitutional balance of power abrogated by congress. DACA is illegal. Congress still controls the money. Freeze every penny for DACA execution. Cut funding for every one of Obama’s pet projects. Cut USAF funding for Air Force One. Cut funding for the president’s “advisors” such as Valerie Jarrett. Hell, cut funding for his arugula salads! The money can be used like a choke chain on a mad dog.


19 posted on 11/08/2014 7:40:34 AM PST by Temujinshordes
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

I understand the ‘long ball’ strategy from Krauthammer (and others) of not taking the Impeachment bait. It’s scorched earth, nuclear option, etc, but it may very well be the only arrow in the quiver.

Many on the left are astounded at the high level of delusion and denial going on in the White House, so there will be ample support should 0bama actually sign the order. The threat of it from ‘his side’ may actually prevent it from happening.


20 posted on 11/08/2014 7:43:32 AM PST by moehoward
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