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Report says 60,000 veterans get triple benefits
winston salem journal ^ | 11/1/14

Posted on 11/01/2014 7:47:31 AM PDT by knak

Edited on 11/01/2014 8:31:38 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

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To: knak

“”We should fulfill our promises to the men and women who serve, but we need to streamline these duplicative programs,” said Sen. Tom Coburn, R-Okla., who requested the study.”. It FIGURES, Coburn is a BACKSTABBING LITTLE COWARD WHO NEVER SERVED NOT ONE MINUTE in ANY Uniform! I DESPISE PIECES IF SHIT LIKE HIM!


21 posted on 11/01/2014 8:34:03 AM PDT by US Navy Vet (Go Packers! Go Rockies! Go Boston Bruins! See, I'm "Diverse"!)
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To: pepsionice

You’re right about RR workers. And some teachers’ unions here and there along the way. I did the 8 years payments to FICA while in the military too. What really screwed me was the 30 years afterwards. Ever since I graduated from college, I paid the maximum monthly FICA “contribution” which amounted to MORE than I ever got in a month while doing my 8 years. If they gave me the $120K or so and the $120K or so my employer kicked in back, I’d go away and be happy. I will never get that money back.


22 posted on 11/01/2014 8:34:14 AM PDT by Gaffer (I)
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To: The Sons of Liberty

Why are people concerned about veterans’ benefits? We should pay them more. They put in their years. Do we expect them to do this work simply out of a sense of duty? This is the real world. They need money. If we only paid them a fair rate, this extra benefits would not be too much. I mean, not many of us draw $200,000 a year in retirement like the fellow cited in the article, but not many of us spent thirty years in the military either. We’ve got to compensate these guys for their sacrifice so we can continue to get the best possible soldiers, and not just some sleezoids who couldn’t get a job flipping burgers somewhere. The way things are today, with pensions a rarity in the private sector, the young people in the know are soon going to be fighting for a job that lets you retire with the kind of benefits we provide our veterans, which is as it should be. They are the best, the most worthy members of our society. Everything we have depends on them.


23 posted on 11/01/2014 8:34:47 AM PDT by paristexas
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To: Delta 21

“I wonder what the people representative will be getting when he retires.”

Looks like around $139,000 a year, plus benefits...

You know it is rough up there on the hill./sarc


24 posted on 11/01/2014 8:35:58 AM PDT by greatvikingone
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To: Gaffer

Your comment is correct. Most military retire @ 20 yrs, does anybody expect these 40-somethings to sit around jobless until they die?


25 posted on 11/01/2014 8:36:12 AM PDT by nascarnation (Toxic Baraq Syndrome: hopefully infecting a Dem candidate near you)
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To: Gaffer

And they convince the headline readers who have no clue what the military is.

Easy target, indeed. $208 Thou.

While Diane Feinstein, Mitch McConnell and their friends rake in unethically gained millions during their C of C tenure, and THEN collect retirement benefits from the government along with their exempt-from-obamadon’tcare health plans. And you can bet those plans are NOT VA.

By the way, the VA health care system was the first thing - not the first health care plan - but the first thing Obama went after to change and ruin. He found out quick that was not going to be too easy. He won’t give up easily either.

WE don’t hear much about the VA health care system any more. It’s under the radar again. THis office ought to investigate that fiasco. My bet is there’s a lot of ‘well we’re getting away with it, let’s ramp it up’ going on.


26 posted on 11/01/2014 8:38:14 AM PDT by stanne
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To: knak

I get $130.94 monthly from the VA, the same amount is then taken from my military retirement.


27 posted on 11/01/2014 8:39:08 AM PDT by Bruce Kurtz
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To: knak; All

Can someone with a twitter account send Mr. Matthew Daly, the writer of this article, this thread, or a link to it?

It might be informative to him (it will be If he reads it)

Thanks


28 posted on 11/01/2014 8:41:01 AM PDT by stanne
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To: stanne

Last time I investigated House and Senate “pension/retirement” options (many, many years ago) it amazed me that it only required SIX YEARS..... Six Years....one SENATE term or three Representative terms to qualify for some sort of pension. It is no wonder these lowlifes would sell their mothers and sisters into prostitution (let alone you and me).


29 posted on 11/01/2014 8:42:03 AM PDT by Gaffer (I)
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To: VerySadAmerican

Serve in uniform 20 years, get parts of you removed or otherwise damaged violently, then get your military pension and social security disability for your injuries.


30 posted on 11/01/2014 8:43:23 AM PDT by Darksheare (People who support liberal "Republicans" summarily support every action by same.)
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To: Gaffer

Eight years ago, I had some younger GI’s engage me on retirement, unfairness and pensions.

We eventually came to a white-board concept....dump FICA requirements that each GI gets stuck into paying...into TSP, then get the gov’t to dump $10k every three years into TSP as well while in uniform. Then let the guy have all of the TSP tax-free somewhere between 50 and 60.

I read the other day the AF is entertaining the idea of raising the entry age to 39. Some believe it’s a gimmick to get folks in, as they retire at 59...they won’t live long and thus the pension owed will be less.


31 posted on 11/01/2014 8:44:13 AM PDT by pepsionice
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To: Redleg Duke

that was forcibly taken from each and every paycheck I earned in civilian life since I was 16,....and don’t forget, your employer had to match that amount also, which meant your daily pay was reduced and you didn’t receive the raises in pay you could have.


32 posted on 11/01/2014 8:44:39 AM PDT by Safetgiver ( Islam makes barbarism look genteel.)
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To: stanne; Gaffer

Don’t forget Harry Reid and his 3 million dollar solar energy deal with China at the expense of the Bundy ranch.


33 posted on 11/01/2014 8:44:45 AM PDT by Darksheare (People who support liberal "Republicans" summarily support every action by same.)
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To: VerySadAmerican
How do I get in on that!

Got 20 years of your life to spare? In the only job in the world where they can put you in jail for quitting?

34 posted on 11/01/2014 8:45:49 AM PDT by Bob (Violence in islam? That's not a bug; it's a feature.)
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To: Gaffer

Yes. And it was a Senator who requested this study.

Nice of the liberal idealogues to put it into a headline, for the uninformed masses, who don’t realize what the military does for them.

If they would headline some particular stories of which I am aware, they would have cause for shame, and I speak for the vast majority of veterans.

But they don’t know. They are misinformed through many outlets, the creators of which have no idea themselves what the military is.


35 posted on 11/01/2014 8:48:11 AM PDT by stanne
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To: stanne
WE don’t hear much about the VA health care system any more

That's because our illustrious leader and his lackeys are busy trying to figure out how to explain why we shouldn't enforce a quarantine against returnees from Ebola Africa here in the US when our 4000 soldiers will have to undergo quarantine in Vicenza, Italy.

Couple that with a nebulously described revisions to protocols that "were not followed in Dallas" and "wash your hands" and "you can't catch Ebola except from direct fluid contact" and all that, and you can see it - plainly. A government headed up by a narcissistic megalomaniac with delusions of world wide grandeur.

I won't even get into Debbie Wassermann's sister who is defying Maine's government at this very moment.

36 posted on 11/01/2014 8:49:54 AM PDT by Gaffer (I)
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To: knak

I guess I’m soon to be in the “triple-dip” category. Retired after 24 years in the military, ready to retire after 15+ years as a DOD civilian, and will be getting SS. From my point of view, I did the time and made the payments so I earned the “triple-dip-bennies”.


37 posted on 11/01/2014 8:50:25 AM PDT by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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To: knak

OK, so a guy puts in 20 years and qualifies for a military pension at 40. Then gets a government job and qualifies for a pension on that at 60. So?


38 posted on 11/01/2014 8:53:07 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: pepsionice

Their impression might be, as is Paul Ryan’s, that the military, the veterans and their widows, is some vast gold mine of funding resources.

They need to look at their own pensions earned after 6 years of way more than any vet would make doing nothing regarding their true job description, as the reps do.

What nerve they have writing, publishing and investigating this detail while federal appointees are overseeing what goes on at VA med centers, and, whoa! while we’re at war.

Shame!


39 posted on 11/01/2014 8:53:35 AM PDT by stanne
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To: pepsionice

I don’t know what the answer is, really. All I know is that I did my time. I wouldn’t trade it for the world because it has helped me tremendously. I would also not go back and do it again. If anything, I would have taken that draft notice I got and reported for induction and did my two years in Viet Nam.


40 posted on 11/01/2014 8:54:50 AM PDT by Gaffer (I)
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