Posted on 10/31/2014 3:37:55 PM PDT by Enlightened1
HOW GERMS SPREAD
What’s the difference between infections spread through the air or by droplets?
AIRBORNE SPREAD
Airborne spread happens when germs float through the air after a person talks, coughs, or sneezes. Those germs can be inhaled even after the original person is no longer nearby. Direct contact with the infectious person is NOT needed for someone else to get sick. Germs like chicken pox and TB are spread through the air.
DROPLET SPREAD
Droplet spread happens when droplets that are coughed or sneezed from a sick person splash the eyes, nose, or mouth of another person, or cause environmental contamination, like a soiled bathroom surface or handrails, from which another person can pick up the infectious material.A person might also get infected by touching a surface or object that has germs on it and then touching their eyes, mouth or nose. Droplets generally travel shorter distances, less than about 6 feet from a source patient. Germs like plague, meningitis, and Ebola can be spread through large droplets.
(Excerpt) Read more at cdc.gov ...
http://www.news.colostate.edu/Release/7483
The $2 million subcontract was awarded by Battelle Memorial Institute, a research organization that serves the DoD Medical Countermeasure Systems Joint Vaccine Acquisition Program (MCS-JVAP). Among MCS-JVAP’s requirements is to develop a vaccine to protect soldiers from aerosolized exposure to filoviruses, which cause several types of hemorrhagic fever.
BioMARC will make contributions toward furthering the development of a replicon vaccine platform containing a non-infectious Ebola antigen, which has been shown to protect nonhuman primates from an intramuscular and aerosol challenge with the Ebola virus.
Can the CDC and Scientists on Freerepublic please tell the government to quit wasting money on vaccines to protect against Aerosol transmissions of Ebola since it can’t possibly happen. No way. No how. Nothing to see here. Move On. NO AEROSOL TRANSMISSION POSSIBLE
Ahem...
I don’t get their strategy. Downplaying the risks to avoid panics, when it’s obvious to everyone they are full of b.s., just increases the panic.
They’d be better off to give accurate information and err on the side of caution.
If WHO had done this in Africa, the epidemic might have been stopped by now.
If CDC had done this, two nurses might not have gotten sick, infected people who took chances infecting others might not have taken those chances, travel bans would be in place, and confidence in air travel would be much higher.
How is Ebola different in terms of spreading from the Flu or the Common Cold that comes around every year THAT everyone says is Airborne???
Ebola, just like the Flu and the Common Cold, in temperatures below 45 degrees “floats” the EXACT SAME WAY as the Flu or the Common cold. Here are some quotes and a link for you.
“Ebola can spread by air in cold, dry weather common to the U.S. but not West Africa, presenting a “possible, serious threat” to the public, according to two studies by U.S. Army scientists.”
After successfully exposing monkeys to airborne Ebola, which “caused a rapidly fatal disease in 4-5 days,” scientists with the U.S. Army Medical Research Institute of Infectious Diseases (USAMRIID) concluded Ebola can spread through air but likely hasn’t in Equatorial Africa because the region is too warm, with temperatures rarely dropping below 65°F.
“We… demonstrated aerosol transmission of Ebola virus at lower temperature and humidity than that normally present in sub-Saharan Africa,”
Here is the U.S. Army study/document from 1995 that backs up what I am saying.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1997182/
Here is another article for you. “CDC admits droplets from a sneeze could spread Ebola”
http://nypost.com/2014/10/29/cdc-admits-droplets-from-a-sneeze-could-spread-ebola/
AGAIN...... How is that different from the Flu or the annual common cold that infects people every year???
I don't understand why you and the Administration are on the WAR PATH to not take basic precaution of a Level 4 Bio safety virus when thousands have already died from it.
Make no mistake too about the following. If this Ebola ends up killing people here because they listened to people in authority that said there is NOTHING TO WORRY ABOUT.... Those people in Authority will be found criminally negligent. That means they are going to prison and A LOT of court time in civil lawsuits.
The defense of “I did not know... I was mislead” will not keep you out of prison or losing most of your wealth too.
All those who keep saying it's safe, ignoring history, the laws and standard protocol...... better hope they are right.
Lol. Yep. I’m a racist.
No I didn’t hear that. Lol
Very high virus loads on skin and in sweat, virus receptors on Langerhans cells in skin, very very low ID50, and inadequate PPI or inadvertent contamination while removing heavily contaminated PPE.
You're quite correct that the high HCW infection rate is an important, and neglected, clue, but I don't think it supports airborne transmission - in fact, it's a good argument against it.
Undoubtedly true.
aer·o·sol ( ˈerəˌsôl/)
noun a substance enclosed under pressure and able to be released as a fine spray, typically by means of a propellant gas. a container holding an aerosol.
CHEMISTRY a colloidal suspension of particles dispersed in air or gas.
No one disagrees with this.
Jim.... LOL
I noticed you failed again to respond to many of my questions.
Do you really think you are winning friends and influencing people???
The more you cherry pick yours answers the more I’m convinced that’s it’s airborne.
You see the Health Care workers in West Africa in a full Hazmat suits, and they are still getting it Jim!!!
Then you make the ludicrous statement,
“You’re quite correct that the high HCW infection rate is an important, and neglected, clue, but I don’t think it supports airborne transmission - in fact, it’s a good argument against it.”
How is it a good argument against it being Airborne if it can spread so easily, though the Hazmat suits??? I am just trying to understand your logic.
You do know 2 + 2 = 4??? It does not equal 5 or 10 as Common Core would advocates would say it is. Follow the linner path Jim. Follow the logic. LOL!
I am beginning to believe you are a Fugazi Jim. In case you ask what is a Fugazi? Here you go.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ixd-N8_Drc
OK. Enough.
In 30 days, if there are sporadic cases all over NYC and Dallas, you are right.
If there aren't, you're wrong. Check in on November 30. Until then, believe what you want.
LOL!
Okay 5,000 dead in Africa is not real.
Keep in mind it came over here in October too.
Although like you said in time we will all know for sure. That’s the great news.
If it’s not Airborne, then how come so many health care workers around it have become infected. After all they know Ebola the best and are following all the precautions from the CDC and the WHO (World Heath Organization)???
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Look all I did was give you the authoritative link you kept asking for regarding the differences between the terminology.
To me, as a know nothing lay person, the difference in terms, is related to the size of the particles and the amount of time it is in the air, how high does the particle float-and the types of precautions that need to take place.
I wouldn’t presume to say that there is no way it’s not airborne. Likewise, I wouldn’t say the opposite that it’s always airborne just like the flu.
As far as treatment goes, my vote is to take all precautions, including the special ventilation, and I would prefer the centers such as the ones at Emory be used rather than hospitals such as the one in Texas, for example.
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I don’t understand why you and the Administration are on the WAR PATH to not take basic precaution of a Level 4 Bio safety virus when thousands have already died from it.
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I am NOT on that band wagon. I would rather that the visas be revoked, and people from that area be restricted or at least quarantined in Africa for 21 days, followed by quarantine on an Island for 21 days. As noted above, I am in favor of treatment at the centers such as Emory.
I have already read most of the info in the links you provided. It seems to me that there is a lot about Ebola that we don’t know through controlled scientific studies.
For some reason, the professionals have developed a terminology that makes a distinction between direct exposure, droplet exposure, and indirect exposure. All I care about is exposure, but I did take the time to explore what they meant with their terminology so that I could better understand what they might be trying to say.
You asked for a medical explanation to match against Webster’s Dictionary, and I provided that link. I actually thought you were interested in that, since you kept asking about it.
Did you even bother to read it? I think the link I provided is helpful in providing an understanding of the terminology and what the people using it are trying to say.
I thought you had an interest in understanding what people were trying to say, but your reaction shows that you apparently just want to argue. I have no interest in that, and I especially don’t want to argue over semantics.
LOL!
My reply was to Jim and not you. I saw your reply earlier and agreed with it.
The reason I added you was so you could see what I was sending to Jim and nothing further.
Sorry about that. Next time I will put “@Jim” or whoever I am speaking to.
OK. Good idea. Happens now and then.
Thanks for the ping!
You’re Welcome, Alamo-Girl!
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