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Letter - Initiative 594 would create accidental felons
union-bulletin.com ^ | 10/29/2014 | Dale Keep

Posted on 10/30/2014 10:25:25 AM PDT by rktman

Would you vote for a law that makes criminals of many neighbors, relatives and friends? Initiative 594 would do exactly that.

#In their zeal to impose “universal background checks,” the creators of I-594 have written a law that would require nearly all “transfers” of firearms to be conducted at the premises of a Federal Firearms License dealer.

(Excerpt) Read more at union-bulletin.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; Politics/Elections; US: Washington
KEYWORDS: 2a; banglist; guncontrolnazis
Hmmmm. "Accidental"? No, just part of the plan so when you become an "accidental criminal", you will then be prohibited from possessing firearms. Not that it matters to "actual" criminals.
1 posted on 10/30/2014 10:25:25 AM PDT by rktman
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To: rktman

I-594 is written to effectively make ALL gun owners felons.

You cannot proceed to exercise your rights in a normal fashion and not break that law.

I have violated that proposed law dozens of times in the last couple of years.

It will not stop one crook.

It will make 2nd Amendment Rights moot.


2 posted on 10/30/2014 10:30:05 AM PDT by Uncle Miltie (I'M WITH CRUZ!)
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To: rktman

To a redneck that sounds like a ban on Christmas.


3 posted on 10/30/2014 10:31:20 AM PDT by Idaho_Cowboy (Ride for the Brand. Joshua 24:15)
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To: rktman

Which state? I don’t recognize the initiative - Other than that is, as stated above, deliberately criminal-inducing.


4 posted on 10/30/2014 10:31:57 AM PDT by Robert A Cook PE (I can only donate monthly, but socialists' ABBCNNBCBS continue to lie every day!)
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To: Uncle Miltie

I-594 will not accidentally create felons.

I-594 was created to make every gun owner a felon.

That’s not an accident of the law.

That is its purpose.


5 posted on 10/30/2014 10:32:07 AM PDT by Uncle Miltie (I'M WITH CRUZ!)
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To: Robert A. Cook, PE

Washington State.


6 posted on 10/30/2014 10:32:18 AM PDT by Uncle Miltie (I'M WITH CRUZ!)
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To: rktman
Would you vote for a law that makes criminals of many neighbors, relatives and friends?

Do you know how many times you have already done it over the last 30 years?

7 posted on 10/30/2014 10:33:22 AM PDT by Mr. Jeeves ([CTRL-GALT-DELETE])
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To: Robert A. Cook, PE

The law required undefined “transfers” to go though FFL screening.

So if my father in law hands me his unloaded heirloom gun to inspect in the living room, we are both felons.


8 posted on 10/30/2014 10:34:04 AM PDT by Uncle Miltie (I'M WITH CRUZ!)
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To: Robert A. Cook, PE

Washington state. They have an opposing initiative 591 which is the opposite of 594. What happens if the both pass? Odd circumstance. Sadly, the Seattle area will weigh heavily on the outcome.


9 posted on 10/30/2014 10:39:10 AM PDT by rktman ("The only thing dumber than a brood hen is a New York democrat." Mother Abagail.)
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To: Mr. Jeeves

A LOT!


10 posted on 10/30/2014 10:39:41 AM PDT by rktman ("The only thing dumber than a brood hen is a New York democrat." Mother Abagail.)
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To: rktman

Part of the problem is that we law abiding gun owners fell for the background check BS back in the 80’s, and have been consenting to it ever since. The 2nd Amendment does not say “Shall not be infringed, as long as you have a background check”. The biggest problem are the FFL dealers themselves, unscrupulous, money hungry enemies of America, intent on making $$$ through the direct violation of the BoR. FFL dealers should be ashamed of themselves, and rightfully deserve to lose every single penny they’ve made destroying the fabric of this Nation.


11 posted on 10/30/2014 11:50:22 AM PDT by dware (3 prohibited topics in mixed company: politics, religion and operating systems...)
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To: dware
Part of the problem is that we law abiding gun owners fell for the background check BS back in the 80’s, and have been consenting to it ever since.

A background check turns a God given right into a government granted privilege. Background checks are blatantly un Constitutional. I saw Eric Pratt (GOA) tell this to Lou Dobbs. It shook the old boy so bad he cut to commercial.

12 posted on 10/30/2014 11:57:19 AM PDT by SpeakerToAnimals (I hope to earn a name in battle)
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To: rktman

From my limited observations, it appears the majority of those offering these type items for private sale, effectively self police. Most ask for CC permits and valid ID. Of course I would have no first hand knowledge....


13 posted on 10/30/2014 12:05:56 PM PDT by moehoward
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To: rktman

“There’s no way to rule innocent men. The only power any government has is the power to crack down on criminals. Well, when there aren’t enough criminals, one makes them. One declares so many things to be a crime that it becomes impossible for men to live without breaking laws. Who wants a nation of law-abiding citizens? What’s there in that for anyone? But just pass the kind of laws that can neither be observed nor enforced nor objectively interpreted and you create a nation of law-breakers — and then you cash in on guilt. Now that’s the system.”

Quote by: Ayn Rand
(1905-1982) Author
Source: “Atlas Shrugged”, Part II, Chapter 3


14 posted on 10/30/2014 12:56:27 PM PDT by CSM
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To: rktman

As others mention, it is not an accident.

However, IMO, that is just a “side benefit”. The real reason is to create a registration list - to be taken advantage of later. The 10-day waiting period for handguns is another one. “Hey Jim, lookit my new pistol/revolver - after you’re cleared and wait 10 days, you can handle it.”

If the backers were serious, they’d just check the NICS database to see if the person is a nutter or a criminal - PERIOD. The way it is intentionally set up, the person has to fill out a BATF Form 4473 EACH TIME for a transfer, even multiples the same time.


15 posted on 10/30/2014 1:32:32 PM PDT by Oatka (This is America. Assimilate or evaporate.)
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To: CSM

Just started re-reading it. Seems to have more impact now than previously.


16 posted on 10/30/2014 1:34:04 PM PDT by rktman ("The only thing dumber than a brood hen is a New York democrat." Mother Abagail.)
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To: CSM

[Ayn Rand quote]

A couple of weeks ago I posted that same in an I-594 comments section. Some guy flew off the handle, saying I was another gun nut who confused reality with a novel and said I was the kind who needed a background check.

I replied by nominating him for Olympic gold medals in Conclusion Jumping and Mind Reading, and said it was merely a comment on how Life imitates Art.

I also mentioned I have two state CCWS, which meant I had passed the state and federal background check FOUR times. In the last three years I have also bought two .22s and a shotgun, passing six more, for a total of TEN. I asked him to get back with me as to how many he had passed.

Haven’t heard anything yet.


17 posted on 10/30/2014 1:50:16 PM PDT by Oatka (This is America. Assimilate or evaporate.)
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To: rktman

I have been intending to re-read it, but I am too afraid.....


18 posted on 10/31/2014 9:10:31 AM PDT by CSM
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To: Oatka

FR seems to be getting inundated lately. There is a ton of conclusion jumping, post misrepresentation, etc. I blame the GOP operatives trying their hard sell to get the Conservatives to vote for their lame candidates.


19 posted on 10/31/2014 9:12:37 AM PDT by CSM
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