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Voter ID Myth Crashes (Proof The Demonrats Can Not Win Without Voter Fraud)
Townhall.com ^ | October 28, 2014 | Mona Charen

Posted on 10/28/2014 8:00:37 AM PDT by Kaslin

Democrats want everyone to vote: old, young, white, black, Hispanic, Asian, citizen, non-citizen. Wait, what was that last one again? We'll get to that.

Voter ID laws, passed by 30 states so far, are efforts by legislatures to ensure the integrity of votes. Being asked to show a photo ID can diminish several kinds of fraud, including impersonation, duplicate registrations in different jurisdictions and voting by ineligible people including felons and non-citizens.

The Democrats have made a number of arguments against voter ID laws. They argue a) that the problem of voter impersonation or in-person voter fraud is nonexistent, b) that black and poor voters are more likely than others to lack a valid ID and c) that Republicans are attempting to "suppress" the votes of Democratic constituencies in a bid to revive Jim Crow.

To believe a), you must assume that Americans, who engage in widespread tax evasion (an estimated $2 trillion in income goes unreported), insurance fraud (an estimated $80 billion worth in 2006), identity theft (15 million victims annually) and thousands of other deceptions and crimes large and small, are perfect angels when they step into the voting booth. Vote fraud simply "doesn't exist," pronounced Attorney General Eric Holder.

It's extremely difficult to track vote fraud. Most states put only halfhearted efforts into purging their voter registration rolls of the dead or those who've moved out of state. Prosecutions for vote fraud are rare. But prosecutions for perjury are rare, too -- and not because it "doesn't exist." Earlier this year, the Virginia Voters Alliance found that more than 44,000 people were simultaneously registered to vote in Maryland and Virginia. Catherine Engelbrecht's True the Vote found some 6.9 million overlapping voter registrations in the 28 states they examined. For those unburdened by conscience who live close to the border, it's more than possible to vote early and often.

Being registered in more than one jurisdiction doesn't prove you committed fraud, only that you've arranged things to permit it or that you've overlooked this detail of good citizenship by absentmindedness. But convincing evidence that vote fraud is both real and consequential has appeared. A new academic paper published in the journal Electoral Studies provides evidence of voting by non-citizens that directly contradicts the Democrats' "nothing to see here" mantra. Under the neutral headline "Do Non-Citizens Vote in U.S. Elections?" three professors from Virginia universities answer in the affirmative. Using an enormous database of voters nationwide (32,800 from 2008, and 55,400 in 2012), the authors find that about one-quarter of the non-citizens who participated in the survey were registered to vote.

Studying survey responses, the authors judge that non-citizen voters tend to favor Democratic candidates by large margins.

In many states, their participation wouldn't be large enough to make a difference, but in North Carolina in 2008, the authors calculate, non-citizens may well have tipped the state into Barack Obama's column. "So what?" you may say. Even if John McCain had won that state, it wouldn't have changed the outcome of the national election. True, but remember the presidential race in 2000? Remember "hanging chad" Florida?

Several House seats, and one very significant Senate seat, were probably won by Democrats on the strength of illegal votes. In 2008, the authors note, Sen. Al Franken won by just 312 votes in Minnesota. That seat was the 60th vote to give Democrats a filibuster-proof supermajority to pass major legislation like Obamacare. "(Voting) participation by just 0.65 percent of non-citizens in Minnesota is sufficient to account for the entirety of Franken's margin. Our best guess is that nearly 10 times as many voted."

Voter ID laws will not prevent non-citizens from voting. Green card holders and even illegal aliens get driver's licenses. But that's not an argument against voter IDs. It's an argument for issuing driver's licenses that specify non-citizenship.

As for blacks being "targeted" by voter ID laws, a study by Reuters found almost no difference (2 versus 3 percent) in the number of white and black voters who lacked ID.

Voting is a semi-sacred act of civic religion. Trust that only those eligible are determining our future as a nation is the foundation of civic peace. Voter ID laws should be just one part of ensuring voter integrity. When Democrats resist those measures, it only feeds suspicion that they're trying to steal elections.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: aliens; electionfraud; franken; fraud; illgalimmigration; votefraud; voter; voterfraud; voterid
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To: rdcbn

That is factual. I made my drivers license here in Clarksville in October of 1967 long before I became a citizen. At time there was no such thing as motor voter, but even if there had been I knew as a legal immigrant I would not have qualified to vote


21 posted on 10/28/2014 9:54:11 AM PDT by Kaslin (He needed the ignorant to reelect him, and he got them. Now we all have to pay the consequenses)
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To: txhurl
Hopefully the next two years will see a tightening of each states’ VoterID laws so that 2016 may finally be a clean election.

Sadly, I see it as a trend that will continue a national bifurcation, and even that may only be temporary. Unless conservatives take control of states sufficient to undo the damage being done by public education, I am not confident in the future of liberty.

22 posted on 10/28/2014 9:56:50 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (The tree of liberty needs a rope.)
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To: mrs9x
The problem is that states need to take serious efforts to purge voter rolls of people who are 1) dead, 2) non-citizen, or 3) no longer reside in that locality. Until that happens, there are rampant opportunities for fraud.

Every state should also have a program to provide photo ID for any citizen who needs it. Even mobile units. Just to remove the idiotic dem argument.

23 posted on 10/28/2014 9:59:34 AM PDT by TangoLimaSierra (To win the country back, we need to be as mean as the libs say we are.)
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To: Slyfox
That arrogant pos occupant of 1600 Pennsylvania Ave had 404356 lesser popular votes or 33 lesser electoral votes in 2012 that in 2008

There are some freepers who think he had a land slide.

Here are true landslides


24 posted on 10/28/2014 10:15:41 AM PDT by Kaslin (He needed the ignorant to reelect him, and he got them. Now we all have to pay the consequenses)
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To: Kaslin

JFK grins.


25 posted on 10/28/2014 10:17:50 AM PDT by Vaduz
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To: SandRat

NC has photo ID law and I had to sign a paper after producing photo ID, it was not an easy process...only four picture IDs accepted. I’m believing that will stop most of our voter fraud.

There were some illegals getting drivers licensing back in 2008...I think that has been taking a hit as well.

There were quite a few dead people voted here back in 08 and that has been targeted. She really looked at pics to make sure it was the person on DL.


26 posted on 10/28/2014 10:30:40 AM PDT by Kackikat (Two wrongs do NOT make a right.... unless you are a Democrat!)
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To: Kaslin; 1_Inch_Group; 2sheep; 2Trievers; 3AngelaD; 3pools; 3rdcanyon; 4Freedom; 4ourprogeny; ...
Ping!

Click the keyword Aliens to see more illegal alien, border security, and other related threads.

27 posted on 10/28/2014 2:03:21 PM PDT by HiJinx (Time to read "EFAD" once again...)
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To: HiJinx

Thanks for the ping.


28 posted on 10/28/2014 2:46:04 PM PDT by GOPJ (Obama would rather we die than offend West Africa. - freeper goldstategop (same for the CDC))
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To: GOPJ

You betchya!


29 posted on 10/28/2014 2:58:26 PM PDT by HiJinx (Time to read "EFAD" once again...)
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To: rdcbn

Some DMV’s will issue a temporary paper license.


30 posted on 10/28/2014 3:47:21 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: Lee'sGhost

Don’t know what anyone who claims there is no fraud would be afraid of voter ID.


31 posted on 10/28/2014 4:27:32 PM PDT by morphing libertarian
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To: Kaslin
Catherine Engelbrecht's True the Vote found some 6.9 million overlapping voter registrations in the 28 states they examined

/Echo. No wonder those scoundrels in the IRS targeted her and her organization. It begs the question; was there collusion between the IRS and Dem opposition groups.

32 posted on 10/28/2014 5:34:51 PM PDT by VRW Conspirator (There will be another crusade in our lifetime.)
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To: Kackikat

The dead guy vote always gets me.

First, for early voting states...there’s always the possibility of two-hundred folks from that state having a heart-attack or car accident from early voting to final vote. I can understand this and grasp it.

Then, you have the guys who passed away nine months ago and the county clerk mailed them their absentee ballot (just like the year before), and the nephew or wife votes with the ballot.

Then, you have the county that hasn’t updated their listing in five years, and someone has shown up yearly to vote as a four-year-old dead guy.

The topping on the cake is that you can even have a dead voter voting for a dead candidate.


33 posted on 10/29/2014 1:08:52 AM PDT by pepsionice
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To: pepsionice

That adds some perspective to it all.

I’m glad about the states that require a picture ID now to vote.


34 posted on 10/29/2014 3:44:15 AM PDT by Kackikat (Two wrongs do NOT make a right.... unless you are a Democrat!)
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To: All
THIS NEEDS TO GO VIRAL

....a lawsuit, filed Friday in Baltimore, MD, U.S. District Court asserts that individuals who opted out of jury duty because they were not legal U.S. residents are registered to vote and have been casting ballots in at least three Maryland elections. Election Integrity groups have verified evidence of dual registrations in at least two states.... but say Maryland officials have been unresponsive their concerns.

FREEPER LALALAW nails it....the DNC, ACORN, and latino-centric pressure groups should also be sued on grounds of collusion and conspiracy to abrogate the civil rights of law-abiding American voters.

============================================= Official govt election documents have obviously been falsified....might also involve forgery. Penalties for falsifying govt documents are delineated in the Crimes Act of 1958. Ask your Congressman for a copy.

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It appears Democrat campaign funds were raised under false pretenses----funds that were used to launch voting drives amongst individuals who are known illegals, funds that aided and abetted the commission of multiple felonies.

<><> the FEC should be advised WRT Democrat committees and latino-centric pressure groups raising funds to aid and abet election felonies;

<><> Voter integrity groups might also sue insurance carriers connected to the DNC, Democrat Fund-Raising Committees, latino-centric pressure groups, the state of Maryland, individual counties, and any and all public officials involved in these activities.

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NOTE WELL---Obama henchman/appointee, Leon Rodrigues at USCIS (a DHS agency) is rubber-stamping border-jumpers at an accelerated pace----his confirmation hearings revealed Rodrigues once practiced law in Maryland and was a board member of Casa Maryland---a latino-centric pressure group---pushing for unlimited immigration.

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FBI TIPS PAGE---https://tips.fbi.gov
You may remain anonymous. //// MARYLAND VOTER FRAUD IS ON BIGTIME----one of the few states Obama appeared in---campaigning for Lt Gov Anthony Brown hoping to be the state's first Afro-Governor. If Brown dosn't win Obama looks like a bigtime loser.

TALKING POINTS----10/28---WIZ-TV
Md. Board of Elections Probe Republican-To-Democratic Ballot Switch Claims
By Eyewitness News reporter Meghan McCorkell

ANNAPOLIS, Md. (WJZ)—Early voting just started last week in Maryland, but there are already accusations that some voting machines are changing Republican votes to Democrat. Now Republicans are calling for an investigation by the State Board of Elections.....there are concerns that the vote you cast may not be for the candidate you want.

“We’ve heard from scores of citizens in our district and around the state who have had this problem where they hit one button to vote for one person, and when they go to the summary they see that the other person was checked,” said Del Nik Kipke, (R) Anne Arundel County.

Republicans say they’ve received several dozen reports of Republican votes being changed to Democrat.

Del. Kathy Szeliga says it happened to her. “I kept pushing the Republican guy’s name and the machine kept going beep, beep, beep,” said Szeliga, (R) Baltimore & Harford Co.

CYA-ING? But the State Board of Elections tells WJZ they received less than 20 reports of calibration issues with machines. Twelve have been thoroughly tested– and the problem could not be replicated. The others are out of service.

GOTTA WIN ONE FOR THE GYPPER Obama campaigned for Democratic candidate Anthony Brown who says he’s confident the board will address all issues. “I think we should always be vigilant to make sure that voters can cast a ballot and that it’s accurately recorded,” said Maryland Lt. Gov. Anthony Brown....running to be the state's first Afro-governor.

In a statement to WJZ, board officials say “election officials receive similar reports in every election. Post-election analysis has shown that this is caused by voter error. Voters with large fingers or long nails or voters who hold the touchscreen with their palm resting on the screen seem to report this issue more frequently.”

The State Board of Election advises voters to find an election judge immediately if they have any problem with the machines. Members of the state Republican Party are calling for the state Democratic Party to join them in calling for an investigation into the machines.

SOURCE http://baltimore.cbslocal.com/2014/10/28/ballot-switch-claims/

35 posted on 10/29/2014 4:53:58 AM PDT by Liz
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To: rdcbn
....the biggest Democrat voter fraud tool is Motor Voter, where people in the process of getting a drivers license (ie a valid form of I.D.) are automatically registered to vote. Motor Voter gets them registered to vote, and a lack of ID allows anyone to vote in their name once they are registered. Lack of ID also allows people to vote multiple times under multiple identities.

Haters of democracy, Cloward and Piven, considered
"Motor Voter" to be their crowning, lifetime achievement.

The picture from White House archives, shows Cloward (light gray suit) and
Piven (green coat and navy dress) standing directly behind then Pres Clinton
at the "Motor Voter" signing ceremony.

36 posted on 10/29/2014 4:57:14 AM PDT by Liz
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