When guys find out I’m a virgin [author is a 26 year old female Christian]

Salon ^ | October 5, 2014 | Ellen Burkhardt

[grundle]

There’s no good time to tell a guy you’re a virgin. First date? Too much, too soon. Wait until the third date and you risk being considered a tease. Second date? Perhaps, but at this point you’re both still fretting over whether or not to eat another piece of bread; delving into sexual histories (or lack thereof) seems a bit extreme. So: There’s no good time to tell a guy you’re a virgin. Even worse? Telling him you’re waiting until marriage.

[Elsie]

She's given her last BJ.

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What is your church doing to help the male to stay true?

 

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"All of this should be conveyed without having priesthood leaders focus upon intimate matters which are a part of husband and wife relationships. Skillful interviewing and counseling can occur without discussion of clinical details by placing firm responsibility on individual members of the Church to put their lives in order before exercising the privilege of entering a house of the Lord. The First Presidency has interpreted oral sex as constituting an unnatural, impure, or unholy practice. If a person is engaged in a practice which troubles him enough to ask about it, he should discontinue it."
- Official Declaration of the First Presidency of the Church, January 5th, 1982

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"Prophets anciently and today condemn masturbation. It induces feelings of guilt and shame. It is detrimental to spirituality. It indicates slavery to the flesh, not that mastery of it and the growth toward godhood which is the object of our mortal life. Our modern prophet has indicated that no young man should be called on a mission who is not free from this practice. What is more, it too often leads to grievous sin, even to that sin against nature, homosexuality. For, done in private, it evolves often into mutual masturbation-practiced with another person of the same sex and thence into total homosexuality...."
- Prophet Spencer W. Kimball, The Miracle of Forgiveness, Pages 77-79, 81-82

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"Among the most common sexual sins our young people commit are necking and petting. Not only do these improper relations often lead to fornication, [unwed] pregnancy, and abortions - all ugly sins - but in and of themselves they are pernicious evils, and it is often difficult for youth to distinguish where one ends and another begins. They awaken lust and stir evil thoughts and sex desires. They are but parts of the whole family of related sins and indiscretions. Almost like twins, 'petting' and fornication are alike."
- Prophet Spencer W. Kimball, The Miracle of Forgiveness, page 65

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"Also far-reaching is the effect of the loss of chastity. Once given or taken or stolen it can never be regained. Even in a forced contact such as rape or incest, the injured one is greatly outraged. If she has not cooperated and contributed to the foul deed, she is of course in a more favorable position. There is no condemnation where there is no voluntary participation. It is better to die in defending one's virtue than to live having lost it without a struggle."
- Prophet Spencer W. Kimball, The Miracle of Forgiveness, page 196

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"And Cain said unto the Lord, My punishment is greater than I can bear. Behold, thou hast driven me out this day from the face of the earth." (Genesis 4:9-14.) That was true of murder. It is also true of illicit sex, which, of course, includes all petting, fornication, adultery, homosexual acts, and all other perversions. The Lord may say to offenders, as He did to Cain, "What hast thou done?" The children thus conceived make damning charges against you; the companions who have been frustrated and violated condemn you; the body that has been defiled cries out against you; the spirit which has been dwarfed convicts you. You will have difficulty throughout the ages in totally forgiving yourself."
-Prophet Spencer W. Kimball, "Love Versus Lust", BYU Speech January 5, 1965. Often-used quote still used today in LDS seminary classes.

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"I do not find in the Bible the modern terms "petting" nor "homosexuality," yet I found numerous scriptures which forbade such acts under by whatever names they might be called. I could not find the term "homosexuality," but I did find numerous places where the Lord condemned such a practice with such vigor that even the death penalty was assessed."
- Apostle Spencer W. Kimball, "Love Versus Lust", BYU Speech January 5, 1965

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"If adultery or fornication justified the death penalty in the old days, and still in Christ's day, is the sin any less today because the laws of the land do not assess the death penalty for it? Is the act less grievous? There must be a washing, a purging, a changing of attitudes, a correcting of appraisals, a strengthening toward self-mastery. There must be many prayers, and volumes of tears. There must be an inner conviction giving to the sin its full diabolical weight. There must be increased devotion and much thought and study. And this takes energy and time and often is accompanied with sore embarrassment, heavy deprivations and deep trials, even if indeed one is not excommunicated from the Church, losing all spiritual blessings."
-Prophet Spencer W. Kimball, The Miracle of Forgiveness, Page 155

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"How like the mistletoe is immorality. The killer plant starts with a sticky sweet berry. Little indiscretions are the berries -- indiscretions like sex thoughts sex discussions, passionate kissing, pornography. The leaves and little twigs are masturbation and necking and such, growing with every exercise. The full-grown plant is petting and sex looseness. It confounds, frustrates, and destroys like the parasite if it is not cut out and destroyed, for, in time it robs the tree, bleeds its life, and leaves it barren and dry; and, strangely enough, the parasite dies with its host."
- Apostle Spencer W. Kimball, General Conference Address, April 1, 1967.

[Elsie]

I got her attention, but I haven't done that since...lol.

[Elsie]

The way women change their hair style, their hair coloring, their clothes, the way the furniture is arranged... you get the idea; HOW can they POSSIBLY get PERMANENT markings on their bodies?

[Elsie]

... HOW can they POSSIBLY get PERMANENT markings on their bodies?

At least a piercing can be removed, with not much evidence it ever existed.

[Elsie]

But they are also prohibited just like male homosexuality is prohibited in the Old Testament.

It is mentioned in the NEW as well:

1 Corinthians 6:9-11.

And the ladies get spoken of in Romans 1:22-29.

[Elsie]

yup

[Elsie]

Could you two just get a ROOM???

[Elsie]

There are multiple ways to remove the epidermis from a feline.

[Elsie]

Even public restrooms offer that paper thingy to place on the seat.

[Elsie]

[a fool in paradise]

Didn’t he fill out the proper state paperwork on making out first?

He did, but he failed to wait 2 weeks for processing and review.

[stevie_d_64]

So a bod like Megan Fox (pre plastic screwup surgery), with a voice like Sophia Loren would suffice???

I can dig it...;-)

I can see why your tolerance for surface issues has developed this way...I agree those traits are annoying...

But I am still not going to stone to death a girl who gets a little hardware in a very publically visible place...

I have to go look, but did she have earrings??? I’ll go look, but that didn’t stand out if it were visible anyway...

[stevie_d_64]

Yep, she has one I can see, left earlobe...

[stevie_d_64]

Ohhh, go check out #59...

I think that nose ring is not a permanent or regular accoutrement for her...

She looks a little frumpy overall, very average, and if she is “trolling” for a mate, she is obviously not trying very hard in some of the pictures we have seen so far...

Which is what I think she is ultimately doing...Her follow up article will be how she found Mr. Right, and she had sex with him, and all that...I have a pretty good feeling that will be happening sooner than later...

Hopefully it will not be with a guy named “Steve” from Texas...

I might be in big time trouble in river city if that ever got out...

[Elsie]

Then there are those; after finding out what the Romans do; move there.

[Elsie]

Frumpy?

Even UGLY folks can find Love, Sex and Marriage!

(No, the ordering of the above list is not firmly fixed.)

[TalBlack]

“Because you see it as a “challenge.” ;-D”

Oh hell no. My point is that of the thousands of eligible girls around me only a very few mattered to me beyond their attractiveness. There were a FEW girls who could load me up and not get bucked.

[stevie_d_64]

This is true...I was expanding on the other posters surface views and opinion of the young girl in this article...

She did look “frumpy” in the way she dressed in that picture in #59...Sans nose hardware, she could dress up and be off the market in short order...

I think the purpose for the original article was to troll for a mate, and write about that here shortly...

That’s my prediction...

Like a FReeper in our midst would say...”It’ll get hit”. one of these days...

[butterdezillion]

I’ve had 6 kids so I don’t think that applies to me.

Nobody is carryinq around a disease or emotional baqqaqe because of my sexuality, and it’s hiqhly unlikely that anybody will be because of any of my children either. I and my family have helped people who HAVE suffered because the Lord’s qift of sex was misused, and/or it was treated as a qame of conquest and competition. We know the pain that brinqs, even thouqh sometimes the pain is delayed until old qhosts haunt a marriaqe. We’ve seen women destroyed by the belief that their only justification for existinq is the pleasure they can brinq a man - any man. I don’t buy the idea that misused sex is harmless because I’ve seen the casualties of cheapened sex.

When the volume is set at 11 all the time - hop into bed on the 2nd date - what is left as a means for a person to convey real unendinq, unconditional love and honor? I see bride after bride weep emotionally as they make their vows, as if the emotion is enouqh but when life qets difficult they walk away. They’ve lived their life at a volume of 11 and are so addicted to emotions that they can’t handle life when the volume is at a 3 or 4 - when seeminqly the only reason to stay is because you made a promise that you would. I’ve seen kids devastated by parents who never qrew up, who have ALWAYS treated their life as a soap opera, in search of the hiqh emotions of the one-time flinq. Wearinq a condom or takinq pills doesn’t keep a person safe from the damaqe to their BRAIN, and that damaqe affects people they never dreamed they miqht hurt.

[going hot]

Much easier to include the dermis.