Investment & Finance Thread Freepathon Special

Weekly investment & finance thread ^ | Oct. 11, 2014 | Freeper Investors

[expat_panama]

Money.  Investing.  Freerepublic.  Here are the top 10 reasons that us FR investors want to participate in the current FReepathon:

10.   Gold, silver, stock indexes, and bond values are all cr@pping out these days anyway...

 9.    The FReerepublic is a proven and solid force for (among other things) sound national fiscal policy; we need that force stronger now more than ever.

 8     We benefit from these threads personally.   Equity as a legal doctrine thus requires our compensatory donations.

 7.    Economic realism: there's no free lunch.

 6.    Market realism: you get what you pay for.

 5.    Donations are necessary for continued maintenance/loss reduction of desired FR services.

 4.    Donations are a guaranteed adjunct to an individual investor's game plan.  These threads will either pay for themselves through info leading to profits or reduced setbacks (in which case a monthly donation is reasonable overhead) or if by chance what you pick up here is dumb then having donated enables you to request a cheerful refund.  [Note: "request" ≠ "receive"]

 3.    Hey, this place is fun!

 2.    This thread's been going on a year now.  Those of us that found this thread useful for money making will be able to consider donations when they itemize in Schedule B next April.

--and here's my favorite:

 1.    On the internet, when you're getting something you're not paying for, then you're not a customer.  You're a product.

 

This is the thread where folks swap ideas on savings and investment --here's a list of popular investing links that freepers have posted here and tomorrow morning we'll go on with our--

Open invitation continues always for idea-input for the thread, this being a joint effort works well.   Keywords: financial, WallStreet, stockmarket, economy.

 

[abb]

More buying opportunities today?

[Wyatt's Torch]

Assuming you aren’t joking (I’m really tired so I might have missed it) but the joke in the trading community (I’m not a trader) is that there is a concerted effort to ramp the markets at 3:30 pm. Go back and look at some charts and watch the gains the last half hour of trading. Pretty uncanny.

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German yields:

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Inflation expectations are lowest since 2010:

[expat_panama]

futures recovering a bit...

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Claims 264,000 - lowest since June 2000

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Population adjusted claims:

[abb]

Anyone needing income, that AT&T 5 1/2% dividend kinda tempting...

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Interesting chart:

[expat_panama]

huh! where’d that come from?

[expat_panama]

Wondering if that might end up as some kind of trend. During the 1930's (deflation, stocks viewed poorly) dividend yield was typically ten percent!

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Got it off Twitter but it’s a Bloomberg screen shot

[abb]

Wonder what interest rates were back then? IIRC, CD’s didn’t come into vogue until the early 80s.

[Aliska]

No I wasn't joking but I didn't get it. Now I understand and that is what I witnessed about that time. I still don't know why you put the limited liability corporation (LLC) in there; that really threw me off.

It's some sort of manipulation of the market. Wish I'd been quick enough to ride some stocks up with them. You could set a lot of limit buys of lots of different stocks in a situation like that. And most would have triggered.

It would be nice to know who drove it up. A few like me looking for breaks, institutional buyers. Institutional buyers must have set stops or something. It doesn't make sense to sell at a loss then have things turn around so fast. It was probably shorts driving it down. I haven't played any yet. Color me stupid lol.

[Wyatt's Torch]

Zero Hedge and some others have used the “3:30 Ramp, LLC” name for a while. Primarily as a moniker for the Fed’s POMO.

[abb]

The baldheaded guy with the ponytail was commenting on CNBC a while ago. His opinion was that there were some oil contract margin calls yesterday that triggered the -460 drop.

Makes sense.

[Aliska]

I still have a lot to learn, don't I? I'm more concerned that I didn't see the rally coming on my charts.

Intermittent market news on the radio which I keep on, there was mention of a rally, almost as if it was known it was likely to happen.

Little players like most of us could have done very well in retrospect. In my case, I wanted to be sure I was close to the bottom. Can't blame it on HFT and institutional traders.

Actually many stocks still seem overpriced to me compared to a year ago. Some examples, Walgreen's, Home Depot, Hewlitt Packard (I don't track tech or pharma very well).

Apple split to where I could afford some shares but is it worth it? Some stocks like a fertilizer company, RTN, are so low along with my ISP ELNK, that I'm afraid to buy in for fear they will go belly up. When RTN was at 19-20, I said to myself if it goes to 15, I'll buy in. Today it's traded around the low 11's. But farm prices and futures are so low, have to factor that in.

I don't know POMO looked it up, permanent tool of the Federal Reserve to buy or release funds to banks. Something like that. There is a Ramp LLC in Miami lol.

[expat_panama]

Wow, we've finally made it through to Friday!

"Stocks made several U-turns Thursday, eventually closing just above the break-even line. The Nasdaq and S&P 500 edged up fractionally" (from IBD).   Gold'n'silver stay perched on the new levels they clawed up to last week.  So this morning we've got futures seeing little change for now, w/ metals a tad down and stocks up a bit.  Econ reports begin the day slow too with housing Starts, Building Permits, and Mich Sentiment.   The dust is settling.

European Shares Rally After Selloff  Wall Street Journal - 3 hours ago  European shares bounced back on Friday, as the previous session's recovery on Wall Street helped return a semblance of calm to stock markets.

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Einhorn’s Greenlight Capital raising money for a new fund.