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Let contractors fight the Islamic State, Blackwater founder Erik Prince says
Washington Post ^ | 9 Oct 2014 | Dan Lamothe

Posted on 10/09/2014 9:30:56 AM PDT by 11th_VA

As the fight against the Islamic State unfolds, the take of Erik Prince, the founder of the former private security firm Blackwater, is straightforward: If the United States is unwilling to send in ground troops, “let the private sector finish the job.”

Prince addressed the subject this week in a little-noticed blog post on the site of his newest security and logistics firm, Frontier Services Group. Prince left Blackwater, with its checkered history in Iraq, including the killing by contractors of 17 civilians in a 2007 shooting, in 2010. The trial of four Blackwater guards involved in the shooting in Baghdad’s Nisoor Square, has been underway for months.

Prince is currently courting private business in Africa for his new company. He also is preparing to drum up readers for the paperback version of his bestselling book, “Civilian Warriors: The Inside story of Blackwater and the Unsung Heroes of the War on Terror,” out later this month.

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TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: blackwater; erikprince; gwot; isis; usis
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To: DesertRhino

A friend of mine works for the Social Security Administration. He makes 6 figures a year. Granted he works ridiculously long hours, but....

SEALS, Green Berets, Combat Controllers, Rangers, Force Recon, and various other badasses should be paid more.

Imagine a meritocracy pay scale in the military. LOL! Yeah right, like the effing politicians would allow it.


21 posted on 10/09/2014 10:12:33 AM PDT by Tailback
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To: 11th_VA

This is what Bill O’Reilly has been proposing, and Prince agrees. Every nation wanting protection would help pay.


22 posted on 10/09/2014 10:15:08 AM PDT by bigbob (The best way to get a bad law repealed is to enforce it strictly. Abraham Lincoln)
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To: ByteMercenary

The ROE crap is the main reason the ME is still a problem.


23 posted on 10/09/2014 10:16:05 AM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: DesertRhino

Very well stated.


24 posted on 10/09/2014 10:17:58 AM PDT by bigbob (The best way to get a bad law repealed is to enforce it strictly. Abraham Lincoln)
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To: DesertRhino
No, it is only the soldier, the trigger puller that must do it for burger flipping wages, free healthcare for life, free education, subsidized home loans, an early retirement...

I'm not suggesting that what you are saying isn't generally true, but people tend to forget that what a solider earns is not merely wages.

25 posted on 10/09/2014 10:21:13 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (Democrats: the Party of slavery to the immensely wealthy for over 200 years.)
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To: gaijin

And slowly, the plot of Metal Gear Solid 4 becomes a reality...


26 posted on 10/09/2014 10:22:36 AM PDT by Ultra Sonic 007 (Hope for the best. Prepare for the worst.)
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To: sean327
Most of those “clowns” cost the US taxpayer millions to train and are some of the best operators even seen on this planet. Re-upping of SecOps is at an all time low. Let ‘em go get some. Most are itching for a fight. Better killing ISIS than fighting fro the cartels.
27 posted on 10/09/2014 10:23:21 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

It is immoral for this ME murder to drag on for decades because nobody will use the necessary tactics to end it.


28 posted on 10/09/2014 10:24:32 AM PDT by txhurl (2014: Stunned Voters do Stunning Things!)
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To: 11th_VA; All
The down side would be bombings to rail stations like what happened in Spain. ISIL aren't dummies, they probably already have targets.

So basically you're saying, 'don't make 'em mad by fighting them effectively or they may bomb some rail stations'? WTF? They're already bats*h*t crazy, I don't think siccing mercenaries on them is going to make them any crazier
29 posted on 10/09/2014 10:30:30 AM PDT by notdownwidems (Shellback pollywogs! U.S.S. William H. Standley, CG-32 1977-80)
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To: sean327
let’s trust our national security to a bunch of guys whose only loyalty is to a paycheck.

Unlike our Senate.

30 posted on 10/09/2014 10:39:16 AM PDT by TurboZamboni (Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable.-JFK)
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To: txhurl

A great big glass parking lot right in the middle is just what they need to focus their concentration.


31 posted on 10/09/2014 10:43:20 AM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: sean327
I think you misunderstand even modern mercenary culture. Back during the Cold War, there were honest-to-goodness mercenaries who would fight for anyone willing to pay them enough provided they were fighting against Communism. Their loyalty wasn't to the paycheck, but to the cause. Their active risking of life and limb on behalf of the cause was conditioned on paychecks, but as the Holy Apostle Paul observed, "Who serves as a solider at his own expense?"
32 posted on 10/09/2014 10:56:46 AM PDT by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know...)
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To: sean327

These people are not clowns. Almost all of them are 100% patriotic and are former U.S military. To state that they only care about their paycheck sounds like a leftist smear.


33 posted on 10/09/2014 11:02:02 AM PDT by ohioman
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To: TurboZamboni; All

Follow the money -
Breaking news - Army Lt revels CIA govt links creating and financing ME threat ISIS - PROJECT CAMELOT: SCOTT BENNETT : CIA, SWISS BANKS…: http://youtu.be/Jo8Xm46s62I

His testimony is compelling, and his intentions appear to have patriotic integrity.

I really fear for any servicemen these days - leaders are hollowing out our military, mission and allegiances are murky as can be.


34 posted on 10/09/2014 11:27:01 AM PDT by MarchonDC09122009 (Better safe than sorry.)
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To: 11th_VA

Who is going to pay them?


35 posted on 10/09/2014 11:45:05 AM PDT by Lorianne (.)
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To: sean327

What makes you think mercenaries out of Delta, SEALs, SF, Marines and Rangers are not patriotic?


36 posted on 10/09/2014 11:59:59 AM PDT by SisterK (hussein biobama, a judgment against America)
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To: sean327

I’m guessing that right about now you’re thinking ‘oops’ ? !


37 posted on 10/09/2014 12:36:36 PM PDT by tomkat
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To: bigbob
This is what Bill O’Reilly has been proposing, and Prince agrees.

Except that O'Reilly wants only an international force with no Americans in direct combat and Prince wants a 100% American merc force.

There is a problem with this proposal and maybe I see it because I'm looking at it from the point of view of an Infantry Captain. The former Blackwater corporation and other PMC contractors are mostly drawing their employees from the ranks of special operations and those guys are literally the GOLD STANDARD of operator.

Rangers and Marines are also in the mix and those individuals are classified under the category of "super infantry." and they understand the nuts and bolts of that job. They can work under the active umbrella of mechanized warfare in the case of the marines. They can work under the active umbrella of artillery or mortars and they can maneuver with armor.

They don't do the prowl and growl of special operations who perform nighttime HALO insertions from 35K feet up and free fall to 1000 feet OR "hop & pop" at 35,000 feet and open the chute immediately to glide under open canopy up to 24 miles for a silent pinpoint insertion by an extremely small group for a very specialized mission.

The problem with giving these guys orders to conduct full scale infantry attacks is that they're not skilled at huge operations with hundreds of men. The Rangers and Marines are but they represent a fraction of the employees of the PMCs. If you wanted to let these elite men loose as a distinct force multiplier for a much larger group that would be fine. Sniper teams for example. But these specialized folks don't take and hold ground. They are surgeons who remove specific cancers from existence. Using special forces as standard light infantry is a huge waste of resources. And they don't do that very well, either.

38 posted on 10/10/2014 12:39:23 PM PDT by ExSoldier (Stand up and be counted... OR LINE UP AND BE NUMBERED...)
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To: sean327

Most of these contract mercs are experienced special forces or police who joined a private army for the better pay. Reality is, your paycheck is better from the likes if Blackwater or others of its kind.


39 posted on 10/11/2014 1:13:47 PM PDT by Morpheus2009
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To: 11th_VA

The DIY Tank Driven With a Video Game Controller, Being Used to Hit ISIS: The FSA built its newest tank from a pickup truck, complete with a machine gun operated by a PlayStation controller
https://www.vocativ.com/video/world/isis-2/diy-tank/


40 posted on 10/11/2014 11:07:02 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (The question isn't who is going to let me; it's who is going to stop me.)
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