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It Won't Stop at "Gay Marriage" - This Is What Most People Don't Get
Self | 10/9/2014 | FWDude

Posted on 10/09/2014 3:18:09 AM PDT by fwdude

The radical redefinition of marriage - "gay marriage," so called - is only a single weapon in the homofascist arsenal stockpiled against Western civilization. Many have bought, are buying, the insideous lie that this is just a static change that will affect no one other than the parties involved. Nothing can be further from the truth. Abundant evidence and simple reasoning tells us so.

It will not stop with marriage redefinition, the goal is the entire revamping of society, Christianity not excepted. We were constantly lectured only a few years ago that this is a civil issue and that church's culture, operations and right of free associations would not be affected in the least; in fact, the revisionist would fight by our side if this intrusion past the veil of the Altar was ever attempted. How many times do we need to be lied to before we wise up?

Now, we hear of at least one Catholic owned and operated school in Massachusetts which is being sued because they refused to hire an openly homosexual man aping a "marriage." Several years ago, a case already made it to the Supreme Court -THE SUPREME COURT - in which a church was fighting for their unquestionable right to define for themselves who is a minister. The church won by a simple majority, but what if the court was packed with Constitution-hating Ginsbergs? What should have been beyond dispute is now on the debate table. We can expect much more of this in the very near future.


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To: yldstrk
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The TRUTH about Myth Romney ("Celestial God-Child from Planet Kolob") ...

and his "enthusiastic" support for GAY Marriage ...


It was orginally posted at Free Republic by "SoConPubbie" on Father's Day 2012 ...

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2896191/posts




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Joint Letter to Governor Mitt Romney from Pro-Family Leaders

(This letter was hand-delivered to the Governor’s staff on Dec. 20, 2006.)




December 20, 2006


The Honorable W. Mitt Romney Governor, Commonwealth of Massachusetts The State House Boston, MA 02133


Dear Governor Romney:



You have a few weeks left in your term to take action on the issue of marriage. Contrary to opinions offered up by liberal commentators, liberal legal authorities, and perhaps even your own staff, you have the authority as Governor to reverse the damage that has been done to the sacred institution of marriage. The signatories below urge you to declare immediately that homosexual “marriage” licenses issued in violation of the law are illegal and to issue an order to all state and local officials to cease violating the law.


As is increasingly well known, the Massachusetts Constitution denies the Judicial Branch any role in marriage policy:


"All causes of marriage...shall be heard and determined by the governor and council, until the legislature shall, by law, make other provision." (PART THE SECOND, Ch. III, Article V.)


In hearing the Goodridge case and issuing an opinion, four of the seven judges violated the Supreme Law of Massachusetts. Massachusetts courts have admitted, on other occasions, that neither they nor legislators, nor the governor are authorized to violate the Constitution: g[The words of the Constitution] are mandatory and not simply directory. They are highly important. There must be compliance with them.h (Town of Mount Washington v. Cook 288 Mass. 67)


Nevertheless, after these judges issued an illegal opinion, you told the citizens of Massachusetts and all of America that you had no choice but to "execute the law." Oddly, you were not referring to a law, but to the judgesf opinion.


Your oath to uphold the Constitution requires treating an unconstitutional opinion as void (as President Thomas Jefferson did in Marbury v. Madison). You failed to do this. Nor did you treat it as an illegal ruling that affected only the specific plaintiffs (as Abraham Lincoln did, refusing to accept the Dred Scott ruling as law, pointing out that judges do not make law).


Instead, you asserted that the courtfs opinion was a glaw" and thus binding. Though the Legislature never revoked the actual law, you issued . with no legal authority -- the first ghomosexual marriageh licenses in American history.


The Massachusetts Constitution does not confirm either your statements or your actions:

"[T]he people of this commonwealth are not controllable by any other laws than those to which their constitutional representative body have given their consent." (PART THE FIRST, Article X.)


The Constitution also disproves your assertion to the nation that the marriage statute (M.G.L. Chapter 207) was somehow suspended or nullified by the four judges:

"The power of suspending the laws, or the execution of the laws, ought never to be exercised but by the legislature, or by authority derived from it, to be exercised in such particular cases only as the legislature shall expressly provide for." (PART THE FIRST, Article XX.)


In light of both your actions and your explanations, it comes as a great surprise to many of us to learn that, under the Massachusetts Constitution, judges cannot suspend or alter statutes. This principle is clearly fundamental to Massachusetts' system of government and is restated in multiple ways.


"The judicial shall never exercise the legislative and executive powers, or either of them: to the end it may be a government of laws and not of men." (PART THE FIRST, Article XXX.)


We note that the Massachusetts Constitution so completely protects citizens from the rule of judges that even laws passed in the Colonial period before the Constitution itself was ratified cannot be suspended by judges:


"All the laws which have heretofore been adopted, used and approved c shall still remain and be in full force, until altered or repealed by the legislaturec" (PART THE SECOND, Article VI.)


We note, Governor, that in all of your justifications to the nation, there was no mention of these parts of the Constitution which you swore to defend. Why? Even this same court is forced to admit:


"The Constitution as framed is the only guide. To change its terms is within the power of the people alone." (Opinion of the Justices, 220 Mass. 613, 618)


We note Massachusetts Chief Justice Hutchison's words in 1767: "laws should be established, else Judges and Juries must go according to their Reason, that is, their Will" and "[T]he Judge should never be the Legislator: Because, then the Will of the Judge would be the Law: and this tends to a State of Slavery.' " As Judge Swift put it in 1795, courts "ought never to be allowed to depart from the well known boundaries of express law, into the wide fields of discretion."


As for your claims about the authority of Goodridge and its illegal 180-day instruction to the Legislature, the same court had admitted in 1992 that they cannot issue an order to the legislature or the governor:


"The courts [instructing] when and how to perform...constitutional duties" (mandamus) "is not available against the Legislature [or] against the Governor)."


"The...principles expressed in...the Massachusetts Constitution...call for the judiciary to refrain from intruding into the power and function of another branch of government." (LIMITS v. President of the Senate, 414 Mass. 31, 31 n.3, 35 (1992)


We also note this ruling in 1969: "an unconstitutional overreaching by the judiciary is an act that is gnot only not warranted but, indeed, [is] precluded.h (Commonwealth v. Leis)


We note that even the Goodridge majority said they were not suspending the marriage statute: gHere, no one argues that striking down the marriage laws is an appropriate form of relief."


In fact, they admitted that under the statute, Chapter 207 of the Massachusetts General Laws, homosexual marriage is illegal: gWe conclude, as did the judge, that M.G.L. c. 207 may not be construed to permit same-sex couples to marry.h


Moreover, we note that nothing in the Goodridge ruling asked or pretended to authorize the governor to violate the statute in the event that the Legislature would not repeal it.


We also note that the statute remains in the Massachusetts General Laws, and has never been stricken, suspended or nullified. The court itself has previously clarified your obligation:


"But the statute, so long as it stands, imposes upon both branches [of the Legislature] uniformity of procedure so far as concerns this particular matter. One branch cannot ignore it without a repeal of the statute. A repeal can be accomplished only by affirmative vote of both branches and approval by the governor." (Dinan v. Swig, 223 Mass. 516, 519 (1916)


Nevertheless, with no legislation authorizing you to do so, you ordered the Department of Public Health to change the words on marriage licenses from "husband" and "wife," to "Partner A" and "Partner B." Stunningly, you later admitted that without enabling legislation you cannot change birth certificates in a similar way.


We note that, despite the court's admission that the statute prohibits ghomosexual marriage,h and the Constitution's statement that only the Legislature can suspend laws, you ordered officials to perform homosexual marriages and thus violate the statute (a crime under c. 207 ˜48), and the oath of office by. Those who refused, you ordered to resign.


This emboldened other local officials, including the mayor of Boston, to boast publicly that they would break the law by "marrying" out-of-state homosexual couples . also a crime under c. 207 ˜48.


In summary, while the four judges asserted that Chapter 207 is unconstitutional, they did not suspend the marriage statute and were powerless to do so. The legislature has not changed or repealed it. Therefore:

1. The marriage statute is still in effect.
2. The statute continues to prohibit same-sex marriages.


We note that you swore no oath to execute court opinions, but rather laws and the Constitution. The same Massachusetts high court itself said in 1986: [The Executive branch] must "be faithful to the words of the statute ... as written, and an event or contingency for which no provision has been made does not justify judicial [or Executive Branch] legislation." (Amherst v. Attorney General, 398 Mass. 793)


You swore an oath to uphold the Constitution against assault from the other two branches. You swore on a Holy Bible, and said, "So help me, God." Your oath itself declares that it is violated on penalty of perjury, a felony.


Like much of America, many of us accepted as sincere your explanations of your role in this social and constitutional crisis that is fundamentally altering the moral fabric of our culture and eroding basic building block of human society. We are now forced to look at your role, as constitutional sentry and a gatekeeper of our form of government, in a different light.


We would be greatly disappointed if your principal contribution to history will be imposing homosexual marriage -- knowingly or unknowingly, willfully or negligently -- in violation of the state Constitution you swore to uphold.


We urge you in the strongest possible way to fulfill the obligation imposed by the Constitution of Massachusetts upon the "Supreme Executive Magistrate" to uphold Massachusetts General Laws Chapter 207 the marriage statute, by declaring immediately in a formal, written executive order that the Goodridge court cannot overrule the Constitution and that homosexual marriage therefore remains against the law.


We urge you also to issue immediately a public memorandum from the Office of the Governor declaring members of the Legislature to be engaged in a conspiracy against the Constitution, to which the oath of office attaches the penalties of perjury -- a felony.


We urge you to immediately notify the legislators who openly conspired against the Constitution in denying the first marriage amendment petition a vote in 2002 that:

they violated the oath of office, a constitutional felony, and

as a citizensf constitutional petition, that initiative remains pending until brought to one of the five final actions the Constitution requires and

therefore their crime against the Constitution is perpetual and without statute of limitations

unless they vote, you will call them into session on that original marriage petition and

will order the state police to arrest them and bring them to the chambers to vote (as the Governor of Texas ordered in May 2003 when Texas legislators refused to convene a quorum).


Under conditions of repeated and systematic constitutional abuse, these steps by a governor are the minimum required to defend constitutional democracy and our republican form of government.


Signed,

Paul Weyrich, Free Congress Foundation
*Sandy Rios, Culture Campaign
*Gary Kreep, Esq., president, United States Justice Foundation ++
*Robert Knight, a draftsman of the federal Defense of Marriage Act Linda Harvey, Mission America
Rev. Ted Pike, National Prayer Network
Randy Thomasson, Campaign for Children and Families
Peter LaBarbera, Americans for Truth
Dr. Chuck Baldwin, radio host, columnist
Paul Likoudis, The Wanderer
Rev. Stephen Bennett, Stephen Bennett Ministries
Phil Lawler, Catholic World News
Rev. Scott Lively, Esq., Defend the Family
*Dr. William Greene, RightMarch.com
Michael Heath, Christian Civic League of Maine
David E. Smith, Illinois Family Institute
Gary Glenn, American Family Association of Michigan
Diane Gramley, American Family Association of Pennsylvania
Micah Clark, American Family Association of Indiana
Kevin McCoy, West Virginia Family Foundation
Stephen Cable, Vermont Center for American Cultural Renewal
Joe Glover, Family Policy Network (National)
Terry Moffitt, Family Policy Network of North Carolina
Marnie Deaton, Family Policy Network of Virginia
Danny Eason, Family Policy Network of Texas

Matt Chancey, Family Policy Network of Alabama
Ron Shank, Family Policy Network of Tennessee
*John R. Diggs, Jr., M.D., leading expert on the medical risks of homosexuality
Sonja Dalton, Real Civil Rights Illinois
Allyson Smith, Americans for Truth/California
Brian Camenker, MassResistance
Bunny S. Galladora, Woman's Christian Temperance Union
Dr. Paul Cameron, Family Research Institute
James Hartline, The Hartline Report
Jan Markell, Olive Tree Ministries & Radio
Bill Cotter, Operation Rescue Boston
R. T. Neary, ProLife Massachusetts
Mike O'Neil, CPF/The Fatherhood Coalition, Massachusetts
John F. Russo, Marriage & Family, Massachusetts
*Stacy Harp, Active Christian Media, host, The Right View
Rena Havens, Mothers Against Pedophilia
John Haskins, Parentsf Rights Coalition
Rev. Michael Carl, Constitution Party of Massachusetts
Carl Parnell, author, From Schoolhouse to Courthouse

Affiliations are listed for identification purposes only and do not imply a formal endorsement or commitment by those organizations.










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21 posted on 10/09/2014 4:49:24 AM PDT by Patton@Bastogne (.)
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To: fwdude

Any argument used to legalize queer marriage will automatically include plural marriage, and possibly marriage to animals.

The queer fake ‘marriage’ is about just who they like having sex with. It can’t result in children, and isn’t a family. It can’t be called a family if in no case will there be any genetic ties, even if they adopt.

Nothing would stop a queerly ‘married’ person that adopted a child from divorcing their ‘partner’ and marrying that child when they became of age, regardless of the sex of such child! ( getting pretty sick now huh?).

The barn door is open, and anything goes. Marriage has been reduced to whoever you want to have sex with and will never have any genetic ties through children that hold a family together.

There is a reason that the queer agenda includes LGBT (and sometimes more letters) in every fight for so called rights, the bigger the group of perverts the more clout they have. Grant any right to one and the others come as part of the package.

Having granted ‘marriage’ rights to queers, how could they now deny the same right to bisexuals? They would have to be allowed to ‘marry’ one of each flavor, remember, it’s now about who you want to have sex with.

It’s a very short leap from there to ‘marriage’ to animals. Those wanting that could check the same boxes used for queer ‘marriage’. No genetic ties, no true family, and they want to have sex with them!

Now don’t try to argue it’s different because animals can’t consent. Think ‘donkey show’, that donkey is more than willing!

Would the courts stop at limiting ‘marriage’ just to humans?
Let’s not find out, Ginsburg can’t be trusted to stop there.

In the closet, or in the crosshairs! ( That last line is sarc.)


22 posted on 10/09/2014 4:50:40 AM PDT by Beagle8U (If illegal aliens are undocumented immigrants, then shoplifters are undocumented customers.)
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To: fwdude

Once they make it against the law to discriminate based on one’s “orientation”. Beyond that, not only will it be against the law, it will be sold as the Sin of Sins. Then some Judge will declare pedophilia to be an “orientation” and presto-chango, like magic they will enjoy all the protections that homosexuals do. The fact that is damages kids will be kicked to the way side. If you are against it, you will be a bigot, period.

Before this is over, homo pedophiles will have more rights to your own kids than you do.


23 posted on 10/09/2014 4:56:55 AM PDT by rbg81
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To: fwdude
Equality is not the objective, not only must we accept their lifestyle, we must support it, fund it and promote it. Dissent is not allowed. If a homosexual couple wants to be “married” in your church, than your church must cheerfully accommodate them. If one wants to have a play date with your young son, you must cheerfully allow it.

They are already above the law. Dahlmer would never have been able to walk up to a pair of cops and claim that the young girl found naked, drugged and bleeding in the street was his girlfriend and be allowed to “take care” of her. If an underage boy wants to go to a bar he can get served in a homosexual bar, they never get stings there. Imagine if a social worker saw something funny in the home of an adoptive homosexual couple. Do you think it would be investigated? Nope, afraid of the activists.

24 posted on 10/09/2014 4:59:58 AM PDT by logic101.net (How many more children must die on the altar of gun free zones?)
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To: exit82

Pedophilia and bestiality will then move up from the farm leagues.

...I highly doubt that either of these practices ever attains critical mass...

...but if Jerry Sandusky gets released from prison, I might change my mind...


25 posted on 10/09/2014 5:40:06 AM PDT by IrishBrigade
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To: wastoute

Let them “marry” if they want but slam them in a cell for life for touching anyone under 21 and in a couple decades queer marriage will be a footnote in history.

...assuming that you believe what you just posted, what in the world causes you to think any such thing will ever happen, regardless of the ‘authority’currently in power...?


26 posted on 10/09/2014 5:45:10 AM PDT by IrishBrigade
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To: kearnyirish2

Much of the programming directed towards children not only features broken homes, but doesn’t even attempt to explain where the missing parent (usually the father) is...

...that is an excellent observation...the TV commercial starts out ‘I’m a single mom’ and leaves it at that, as if it were unquestioned SOP...but now, you will note that commercials are starting to introduce the unexplained ‘single dad’, like that paunchy schmuck trying to raise two daughters, who has to ‘engage in more awkward conversations than he likes’...

...what the programming really is attempting is to make ‘fathers’ over in the images of mothers’ (thus they show a guy with a laundry basket in his hands, telling us what detergent gets the stains out for his two daughters...for these dads only ever have two girls...), so as to prepare the way for the feminist bureaucracy to come...


27 posted on 10/09/2014 5:57:30 AM PDT by IrishBrigade
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To: Beagle8U

Nothing would stop a queerly ‘married’ person that adopted a child from divorcing their ‘partner’ and marrying that child when they became of age, regardless of the sex of such child! ( getting pretty sick now huh?).

...an interesting point...I can relate an analogous situation...I am currently feeding two stray cats, a female, and her only surviving offspring, a male (the father is missing, just like in the commercials)...the stupid side of my brain asked the question ‘Will the kitten, when he comes of age, impregnate his own mother?’, and the smart side (assuming there is one) replied, ‘Hell yeah’...

...cats operate under no such taboos as humans...and so I stopped dithering and trapped the mother, so as to get her neutered...

...the point being that nothing will prevent feline behavior from becoming human, once we cross the taboo line drawn in the sand...which we seem so all fired eager to do...


28 posted on 10/09/2014 6:12:33 AM PDT by IrishBrigade
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To: Pecos

“The next step will be for a same-sex couple to demand that a particular minister or priest marry them in the church over which he presides. In the course of that kerfluffle, if the church does not roll over, the IRS will advise the church that if the ceremony is not carried out, the church will be denied its tax-exempt status.”

The mosque will be exempt, though.


29 posted on 10/09/2014 6:45:39 AM PDT by ViLaLuz (2 Chronicles 7:14)
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To: irish guard

” heh....I read that as creeping tranny ”

Ha... That probably isn’t to far off, either!


30 posted on 10/09/2014 6:47:13 AM PDT by ViLaLuz (2 Chronicles 7:14)
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To: fwdude

It’s never gonna stop. It’s like chum in the water for sharks.

Next up will be polygamy.


31 posted on 10/09/2014 7:18:35 AM PDT by Cymbaline ("Allahu Akbar": Arabic for "Nothing To See Here" - Mark Steyn)
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To: fwdude

Republics require patriotism to exist. With rulings like this, many of us become CINOs (Citizens in Name Only). Best thing to do now is stay clear of the tree when it falls. Then pick up the pieces and build a new house ...


32 posted on 10/09/2014 7:40:30 AM PDT by 11th_VA
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To: fwdude

Gay marriage is neither (gay or marriage). Period.


33 posted on 10/09/2014 7:43:20 AM PDT by windsorknot
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To: IrishBrigade

There was an editorial in the NY Times last week that took a few steps in the dirction of mainstreaming pedophilia. Iirc it made the case that, as a psychological disorder it fell under the protections of the ADA, despite the ADA specifically and explicitly excluding it.


34 posted on 10/09/2014 8:00:20 AM PDT by tanknetter
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To: Pecos

Even better, make sure all the children are indoctrinated so that they don’t attend the church, making the church fall apart more than it could hope to from doing it without.


35 posted on 10/09/2014 8:07:45 AM PDT by Morpheus2009
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To: All

the path will eventually make it ILLEGAL to have a father’s last name. (does Canada have that yet?)

Marriage is now “for the orgasm via fetish.”


36 posted on 10/09/2014 8:27:56 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: ViLaLuz

this is ultimately about politicians being able to have wild sex in DC. what they do that now? never mind.


37 posted on 10/09/2014 8:28:54 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: IrishBrigade
There is no reason why a father shouldn't be able to "marry" his sons. There is no danger of genetic problems and all other arguments for homo marriage apply.
38 posted on 10/09/2014 8:48:38 AM PDT by Sgt_Schultze (A half-truth is a complete lie)
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To: IrishBrigade

I don’t think they will. I am just pointing out there IS a way to undo this.


39 posted on 10/09/2014 6:55:04 PM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: gattaca

Whatever they do on their publicity tour, in the end normal people are disgusted by what they do; it can’t be helped. They will never be regarded as “normal”...


40 posted on 10/10/2014 3:23:13 AM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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