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Hospital worker: Spaniard exposed in ER for 8 hours after positive Ebola test
CNN ^ | 10-9-2014 | By Greg Botelho, Laura Smith-Spark and Laura Perez Maestro

Posted on 10/08/2014 10:05:37 PM PDT by tcrlaf

Teresa Romero Ramos sought out help three times.

Finally, one week after first seeing a doctor, Romero found out why she felt so sick: She had Ebola.

Even after her Ebola test came back positive at Madrid's Alcorcon hospital, Romero had to wait.

According to a worker at that hospital, Romero lay in the emergency room -- exposed to other patients as well as medical staff, going back and forth -- for eight hours before being transferred to a hospital in the Spanish capital that specializes in infectious diseases.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: ebola; ohcrap; pandemic; spain
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Spanish Hospital really dropped the ball, they were using "level 2" measures with a "level 4 virus".

The Hospital trade unions are going bananas.

Watch closely, folks. This is how it will play out here sometime in the future, with the liability attorneys following CLOSE behind.

1 posted on 10/08/2014 10:05:37 PM PDT by tcrlaf
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To: tcrlaf

The plan is to get the global population down to 1/2 million people, any way they can do it.


2 posted on 10/08/2014 10:08:42 PM PDT by buffyt ("After the midterms......President Obola is free to rain pure destruction on America")
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To: tcrlaf

I predict this is not going to go well for Spain


3 posted on 10/08/2014 10:15:47 PM PDT by Zathras
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To: tcrlaf; neverdem; ProtectOurFreedom; Mother Abigail; EBH; vetvetdoug; Smokin' Joe; Global2010; ...
Bring Out Your Dead

Post to me or FReep mail to be on/off the Bring Out Your Dead ping list.

The purpose of the “Bring Out Your Dead” ping list (formerly the “Ebola” ping list) is very early warning of emerging pandemics, as such it has a high false positive rate.

So far the false positive rate is 100%.

At some point we may well have a high mortality pandemic, and likely as not the “Bring Out Your Dead” threads will miss the beginning entirely.

*sigh* Such is life, and death...

4 posted on 10/08/2014 10:15:50 PM PDT by null and void ("Agoraphobia": fear of the marketplace; "AlGoreaphobia": fear of the marketplace of ideas.)
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It should be pointed out (via Brit press this morning) that Spain only has ONE hospital in the country with level-4 capability, as prescribed for containing Ebola situations. Oddly enough....this was NOT the one that they sent the Spanish priest to. It begs questions about incompetence of both medical management and political leadership who allowed this to occur.

But onto a bigger issue. There are only ten hospitals in the US which have level-4 capability. You can figure that once you get past three-hundred patients...our system is then maxed out.

Finally, the Brit press says that the Spanish authorities finally came to the apartment/house of the nurse involved here....twelve hours after they noted she had Ebola...to sanitize her place. I could understand it taking three or four hours to get the “A-team” in place, but you have to wonder if they even had a process ready to go. And then....they killed the nurse’s dog as part of the process. An odd note...does Ebola cross over into animals? And if so...would we have to put down entire herds of cattle in the US, if got out of control?


5 posted on 10/08/2014 10:18:11 PM PDT by pepsionice
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To: Zathras

“I predict this is not going to go well for Spain”

It won’t go well for us, either, if this gets into “The Wild” inside the U.S.

It will only take about ten cases (orless) before the healthcare workers start not showing up, and 100 or more would overwhelm the level 4 facilities.

Little wonder that DC is trying hard to downplay this.


6 posted on 10/08/2014 10:19:32 PM PDT by tcrlaf (Q)
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To: tcrlaf

Waiting for that who thinks “fudge it. I’m taking out as many as I can.”.


7 posted on 10/08/2014 10:19:39 PM PDT by Dallas59
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To: tcrlaf

How does a nurse not call the hospital and tell them that she has been immersed in Ebola and thinks she may have it, and tell them that she needs to either be told a time to come in directly for examination, or at that she needs to least be kept apart from everyone while waiting to see a doctor.

Don’t these people read a newspaper, talk to each other, discuss what is going on in the medical news and discuss what huge thing they have been personally involved in during the last week and so on?

The lack of people talking to each other is really surprising.


8 posted on 10/08/2014 10:20:17 PM PDT by ansel12
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To: Dallas59

Just take ten Islamo-crazies deliberately infecting themselves, coming to the US, and traveling around, consciously visiting shopping malls, roadside/interstate restaurants, spreading their deadly germs. Applying bits of their saliva on every door, every table, every elevator button around. All before they get too incapacitated and finally succumb.


9 posted on 10/08/2014 10:25:40 PM PDT by greene66
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To: pepsionice; tcrlaf

The treatment clinics don’t actually use the scale that the research labs do, the bio 4-3... designations.

“BSL designations only apply to research laboratories. There is no equivalent grading system for health care facilities.”


10 posted on 10/08/2014 10:25:41 PM PDT by ansel12
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> The lack of people talking to each other is really surprising.

I think what is happening is DENIAL. Really, who the hell wants to admit they're infected and going to die horribly?

11 posted on 10/08/2014 10:26:52 PM PDT by dayglored (Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is...sounding pretty good about now.)
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Little wonder that DC is trying hard to downplay this.

If I had been told 20 years ago that we would have an out-of-control Ebola outbreak in West Africa, and which was starting to make inroads in the Western world, and the political and media class would be bending over backwards to trivialize it, and the medical and other on-the-ground responses would be described, at best, lackadaisical and careless, I would simply not have believed it. This is Ebola, the virus that you just don't monkey around with. Sometimes, it is better to be lucky than good. At this point, I think we all need to just hope that we are lucky.
12 posted on 10/08/2014 10:27:40 PM PDT by jjsheridan5 (Remember Mississippi -- leave the GOP plantation)
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To: greene66

I do not doubt that this will happen.


13 posted on 10/08/2014 10:28:42 PM PDT by Dallas59
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To: greene66

So damned easy.


14 posted on 10/08/2014 10:29:27 PM PDT by Dallas59
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To: pepsionice

We will see similar problems here if this gets rolling. Even simple negative pressure isolation rooms are scarce. We routinely groan under the strain of the annual flu season with ERs holding patients for long times waiting for beds. Arranging transfers to specialized , distant , higher care facilities takes time AND a patient stable enough to make the trip.

As to dogs, there is some evidence they can get asymptomatic infection with the virus. Whether they can then transmit it to humans ? Here’s a link to a paper someone else found that documents that....

http://www.thefreelibrary.com/Ebola+virus+antibody+prevalence+in+dogs+and+human+risk.-a0131127452


15 posted on 10/08/2014 10:30:39 PM PDT by Kozak ("It may be dangerous to be America's enemy, but to be America's friend is fatal" Henry Kissinger)
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To: buffyt

Will never happen.

Countries like China and Russia will not allow it to spread.

They will prevent the disease from spreading by shooting ebola victims.


16 posted on 10/08/2014 10:30:55 PM PDT by 353FMG
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> Just take ten Islamo-crazies deliberately infecting themselves, coming to the US, and traveling around, consciously visiting shopping malls, roadside/interstate restaurants, spreading their deadly germs. Applying bits of their saliva on every door, every table, every elevator button around. All before they get too incapacitated and finally succumb.

Geez, ain't you Miss Suzy Sunshine. :)

You forgot one thing. As they become incapacitated, they strap on a bomb belt and walk into a restaurant or movie theater and blow themselves up, covering hundreds of people in Ebola-soaked bloody tissue. Never mind the ones that die in the explosion itself.

And no, the heat of the explosion will not kill the virus in the suicide bomber's body.

17 posted on 10/08/2014 10:31:10 PM PDT by dayglored (Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is...sounding pretty good about now.)
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To: dayglored

I can’t see doctors and nurses talking about their big story to each other, it seems like it would have been dominating conversations for weeks, and especially when they are personally a part of the story.


18 posted on 10/08/2014 10:31:34 PM PDT by ansel12
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To: jjsheridan5

This is all thanks to globalization.

Globalization that brings invasive species into our continent—including diseases.

And globalization that fears to interrupt global trade by restricting travel.


19 posted on 10/08/2014 10:31:47 PM PDT by Age of Reason
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To: ansel12

From what I read she DID that. Was given a special number to call for occupational health, called the number TWICE and told them of her contact with ebola patients and was told both times to go to a local clinic to be checked.


20 posted on 10/08/2014 10:33:48 PM PDT by Kozak ("It may be dangerous to be America's enemy, but to be America's friend is fatal" Henry Kissinger)
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