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Navy sailors distrust commanders, fear crippling political correctness
washingtontimes.com ^ | 10/1/2014 | Rowan Scarborough

Posted on 10/01/2014 9:20:16 AM PDT by rktman

Navy sailors harbor “widespread mistrust” in the admirals who command them, complaining of poor leadership and a disciplinary environment that tolerates absolutely no mistakes, says a survey of the fleet.

The disgruntlement runs deepest in the officer corps, where scores of commanders have been relieved of duty in recent years.

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtontimes.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: morale; pc; reprisals
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"Navy sailors...." I suppose this is as opposed to Marine, Army or Air Force sailors? Anyway Sorry folks, you're probably as shocked as I am that the PC attitude and envirowackos have become so imbedded in to our armed forces. But it's been bubbling for a long time so this shouldn't be treated like it's a new story. And it isn't just the armed forces. Most major businesses have had this mind numbing BS in place for years. Am I glad I'm retired? Uh, hell yeah. I don't know how many more diversity sessions, break out groups, quality circles, inlcusiveness trainings, cultural correctness meetings I could have withstood. :>}
1 posted on 10/01/2014 9:20:16 AM PDT by rktman
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To: rktman

“Fundamental Change” goes to sea.


2 posted on 10/01/2014 9:24:23 AM PDT by skeeter
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To: rktman

what do you expect when the commander in chief is an clueless racist commie inept dumb incompetent asshole.....


3 posted on 10/01/2014 9:25:21 AM PDT by zzwhale
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To: rktman

All those high ranking folks are in the tank for Obama. That’s just plain scary.


4 posted on 10/01/2014 9:26:28 AM PDT by VerySadAmerican (Liberals were raised by women or wimps. And they're all stupid.)
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To: VerySadAmerican

Obama has fired EVERYONE who is DECENT!


5 posted on 10/01/2014 9:28:22 AM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion......the Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: rktman

Nearly everybody in US MILITARY who is anybody has resigned, retired, been purged or is out processing.

Prayers are up for those chained to their oars.


6 posted on 10/01/2014 9:33:03 AM PDT by Tugo (Beam me UP)
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To: rktman

So 0 is in process of destroying the military. No surprise there.


7 posted on 10/01/2014 9:34:12 AM PDT by I want the USA back (Media: completely irresponsible. Complicit in the destruction of this country.)
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To: rktman

Started with Pat Schroeder. . .thank you Pat. . .


8 posted on 10/01/2014 9:36:06 AM PDT by Hulka
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But, but, but didn’t he once say that he considered joining the military once he reached his selective service age but since VN was over he decided there wasn’t any point? Yeah, I believe he would have joined had we still been engaged. NOT!


9 posted on 10/01/2014 9:37:28 AM PDT by rktman ("The only thing dumber than a brood hen is a New York democrat." Mother Abagail.)
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To: Ann Archy
No he hasn't. One of my boys is a Cmdr. who knocks down academia every chance he gets.
10 posted on 10/01/2014 9:37:51 AM PDT by Coldwater Creek
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To: rktman

Close only counts in horseshoes and hand grenades, so my shortfall in grabbing the General Officer brass ring simply doesn’t matter. I wouldn’t have been a very good General Officer anyway, so the Army certainly made the right decision in my case. But, I think that this generation of General and Flag Officers are a product of a decision making process that has gone off the tracks. They are selecting the very best records, but those records are built on a house of cards where ambition, phony accomplishments, and devotion to the bureaucracy of the service rather than to the warrior ethos and character that used to distinguish the true leaders from the rest of us is no longer present.

I often butted heads with senior officers whom I thought were wrong headed, but these guys have all signed up for the wrong stuff and anyone with the right stuff has been cast aside. I am still waiting for the first General or Flag Officer to resign over the behavior of this Administration. I don’t think that it will happen, they are all drinking the kool aid.


11 posted on 10/01/2014 9:38:07 AM PDT by centurion316
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To: rktman

I caught some morning propaganda and I chuckled some at “British RAF planes” attacked something that I don’t recall.

I remarked to my wife about who else’s RAF could it be?


12 posted on 10/01/2014 9:38:27 AM PDT by wally_bert (There are no winners in a game of losers. I'm Tommy Joyce, welcome to the Oriental Lounge.)
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A military leadership that enforces dictates that two homos in the armed forces are the same equivalent as a “husband and wife” is a military leadership I don’t trust on anything. Not a damn thing.


13 posted on 10/01/2014 9:39:52 AM PDT by greene66
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Okay seriously, I don’t mind the zero-defect mentality — The mere existence of it saves lives. However, you don’t have to destroy a Sailor for making a mistake, teach them what they did wrong and as long as they didn’t kill anyone move on — It’s what my Chiefs did for me and it’s what I did for my Sailors.

Now about the PC culture — That is NOT the Navy I grew up in so of course I hate it — Which includes gays in the military. Gays in the military DOES NOT make the military a fiercer fighting force and therefore is unjustified. If someone, anyone at all could convince me having homos serving would make the military a fiercer fighting force and more capable of seeking, finding, and destroying the enemy, I would be the first one to encourage having homos serve in the military, but in fact, it has the complete opposite effect — Great job obunghole.

Why are people leaving the Navy, because we are fed up with politicians treating the military as some GD social experiment — Stop it. We exist to DESTROY and KILL the enemy and there is nothing “F’n” Gucci about that and it isn’t supposed to be Gucci.

I pray to God that this country wakes up and our next president gets that and un-F’s everything obunghole has broken.


14 posted on 10/01/2014 9:45:32 AM PDT by areukiddingme1 (areukiddingme1 is a synonym for a Retired U.S. Navy Chief Petty Officer and tired of liberal BS.))
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Australian or New Zealand Royal Air Forces.
15 posted on 10/01/2014 9:45:57 AM PDT by Jacquerie (Article V. If not now, when?)
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To: rktman

Political Correctness was the invention of Vladimir Lenin in 1917. Lenin called it Cultural Marxism and it was renamed in the 60s, because Marxism was not a term Westerners, and especially Americans, would swallow.
It’s purpose was to gradually make concepts unacceptable to Westerners acceptable; it also leads people to accept a police state rule and total governmental control of their lives, thoughts, speech and actions, i.e., totalitarianism.

When someone issues politically incorrect speech, it should be protected speech. we may not like it and it may show extreme bad taste and be offensive, but it should be under the protection of the first amendment.


16 posted on 10/01/2014 9:47:56 AM PDT by BuffaloJack (Bomb ISIS; bomb them again; bomb them again; kill all survivors; take no prisoners.)
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I was in back during Tailhook...as busy as we were, it was flabbergasting how much time we had to take for sexual harassment training....every time a new change to the rules came down, another day or days lost...and they were constantly updating official policy.

No one in the command structure would tolerate even the hint of misbehavior, as the slightest blemish on one’s record, even an untrue allegation, could end one’s career.

The long and short of it...we were basically told not to talk to females unless absolutely necessary in the course of work, and if you were accused of harassment, you were guilty until you proved yourself innocent.

That was over 20 years ago...can’t imagine what it’s like now.


17 posted on 10/01/2014 9:48:26 AM PDT by rottndog ('Live Free Or Die' Ain't just words on a bumber sticker...or a tagline.)
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To: rktman
Elections have consequences.

The United States military used to be an organization that destroyed things and killed bad people in order to defend the American citizenry. Now it is little more than a social laboratory experiment. A politically correct force for good and social and environmental justice. It started back under Clinton and has been accelerated by the current Regime.

18 posted on 10/01/2014 9:49:21 AM PDT by buckalfa (Long time caller --- first time listener.)
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To: Jacquerie

That’s true, kinda forgot about their full names.


19 posted on 10/01/2014 9:49:55 AM PDT by wally_bert (There are no winners in a game of losers. I'm Tommy Joyce, welcome to the Oriental Lounge.)
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To: rktman

When the Moslems come to hack off the heads of all the NOW and EPA and homosexual and drug-user and Democrat people, the victims can all take comfort that their heads will fall into a natural hemp basket.


20 posted on 10/01/2014 10:07:18 AM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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