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National Review Writer: Women Who Have Abortions Should Be Hanged
Talking Points Memo ^ | Tue Sep 30 2014

Posted on 09/30/2014 1:18:59 PM PDT by presidio9

Kevin Williamson, a correspondent for National Review, suggested Monday that women who have abortions should be hanged.

Williamson's tweet came in a back-and-forth on twitter that started with Williamson's piece criticizing a blog post by actress and director Lena Dunham on why women should vote.

The key part of the exchange was captured by Charles Johnson of the blog Little Green Footballs. Here is the exchange:

(Excerpt) Read more at talkingpointsmemo.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: abortion; kevinwilliamson; littlegreenfootballs; moralabsolutes; nationalreview; prolife; roevswade
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To: SkyDancer

So if I hire someone to kill my wife, I’m not a killer, the hitman is?


21 posted on 09/30/2014 1:32:22 PM PDT by Sherman Logan (Perception wins most of the battles. Reality wins ALL the wars.)
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To: Morgana
Women who have abortions should be prayed for.

Far better answer than the one that I just provided.

This is the one that I will use from now on. So thanks.

22 posted on 09/30/2014 1:32:44 PM PDT by presidio9 (Islam is as Islam does.)
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To: presidio9

Charles Johnson = the biggest loser in the history of the internet


23 posted on 09/30/2014 1:35:44 PM PDT by Viennacon
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To: Fester Chugabrew

You are forgetting some women are forced into abortions. Either by sex trafficking or by family. You will hear them say “I felt like I had no choice”, my husband, boyfriend, parents wanted me to abort and the pressure was too much. What about them? What we need is out overturn roe vs wade. and the other doe vs boulton. let it go back to the states. Most states had it illegal anyway.


24 posted on 09/30/2014 1:35:46 PM PDT by Morgana ( Always a bit of truth in dark humor.)
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To: presidio9; wagglebee
The answer to this question is as follows: "The first step is to pass laws to outlaw abortion with the exception of cases of rape, incest and where the life of the mother is physically endangered.

Do you believe this? Are you pro-abortion?

25 posted on 09/30/2014 1:36:23 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: presidio9

It was foolish of him to say this, it doesn’t help.

AFTER we hang kalid sheik mohommed, et al, we can consider who else should swing.


26 posted on 09/30/2014 1:36:42 PM PDT by jocon307
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To: Morgana
Women who have abortions need to be shown some mercy because as Jesus said on the cross “forgive them Father for they know not what they do”

Do you offer the same forgiveness to all others who commit murder and other crimes? If not, why not?

27 posted on 09/30/2014 1:37:26 PM PDT by Sherman Logan (Perception wins most of the battles. Reality wins ALL the wars.)
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To: Responsibility2nd

What happens to the so-called fathers?


28 posted on 09/30/2014 1:37:34 PM PDT by stanne
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To: presidio9
if you are a politician, or if you write opinions for the leading conservative magazine, you don't answer hypothetical questions . . .

I remember someone saying about Robert Bork, during his confirmation, "If he would just shut up!"

29 posted on 09/30/2014 1:39:06 PM PDT by cornelis
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To: presidio9

Good points. If only Richard Mourdock and Todd Akin had understood these very basic political facts.


30 posted on 09/30/2014 1:39:22 PM PDT by GOP_Party_Animal
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To: trisham
What he said was needlessly provocative.

And yet, what he said has provoked some intriguing consideration of just how off base the comment (stand alone and out of context) might have been?

I would initially agree with you. But a poster did make a logical point in pointing out; If you believe abortion is the intentional killing of a human life, then that is murder. If you also support capital punishment for premeditaded murder, then you might be expected to support the execution of the mother who seeks out the abortion.

Mind you, I am not suggesting I support what was said. But I am pointing out that, as proof on this thread, the comment was not "needlessly provocative".

31 posted on 09/30/2014 1:39:38 PM PDT by Tenacious 1 (Tagline deleted at the request of an offended FReeper.)
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To: Sherman Logan

“So if I hire someone to kill my wife, I’m not a killer, the hitman is?”

I like that one now think of it in this terms.

A man gets a woman pregnant. Then is upset with HER because she is pregnant and wants HER to abort his baby. The baby he help and mind you willing created. He puts pressure on her sometimes through threats and intimidation. Finally she does it. What does he do? Goes back with her and does the same process all over again.

Stupid. Just stupid.


32 posted on 09/30/2014 1:39:45 PM PDT by Morgana ( Always a bit of truth in dark humor.)
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To: Morgana

I believe most of those women will, in their heart of hearts, die a thousand deaths over their lifetime, every time they think about what they did.

That just might be the worst punishment of all.


33 posted on 09/30/2014 1:40:44 PM PDT by beelzepug (You can't fix a broken washing machine by washing more expensive clothes in it.)
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To: Responsibility2nd
Do you believe this? Are you pro-abortion?

Are you having some difficulty with the words "the first step," or is it just that you don't understand the basic concepts of political messenging?

34 posted on 09/30/2014 1:40:56 PM PDT by presidio9 (Islam is as Islam does.)
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To: presidio9

This is exactly the sort of stuff that conservatives need to stay away from during the election cycle.


35 posted on 09/30/2014 1:41:21 PM PDT by Chickensoup (Leftist totalitarian fascism is on the move.)
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To: Morgana

Every woman who has had an abortion is welcomed in confession. Every catholic woman can go to confession

And that’s the sacramental form of forgiveness, which is available if one asks for it (from Jesus) and changes ( repents)

The boys too, the so called dads

None of that truth is convenient to the greedy abortion profiteers


36 posted on 09/30/2014 1:42:03 PM PDT by stanne
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To: stanne

IF they are involved in the decision to murder their child, then the legal (and correct) definition is accessory to murder.

This conversation we’re having here? On this thread? Some on the fence will argue that THIS is why abortion will never be illegal. That by strictly defining it as we do can only mean that mothers who aborted and the doctors that performed the abortions should be tried for murder.

Much in the same way the Nazi’s were after WWII.

And I don’t have a problem with that.

Not. One. Single. Problem.


37 posted on 09/30/2014 1:42:45 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: Sherman Logan

“Do you offer the same forgiveness to all others who commit murder and other crimes? If not, why not? “

I most certainly do.

In fact search FR records on what I said of Jeff Dahmer. He converted to Christianity and was baptized in prison before he was murdered. If Jesus forgives him then I forgive him. May God have mercy on his soul and I will be happy to see him in Heaven.

Same goes for David Berkowitz, who I have read that he also converted to Christianity and was baptized.


38 posted on 09/30/2014 1:44:35 PM PDT by Morgana ( Always a bit of truth in dark humor.)
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To: presidio9

It was his opponent who used the word “hanged”

Williamson simply said abortion is homocide.


39 posted on 09/30/2014 1:45:04 PM PDT by PGR88
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To: Tenacious 1; trisham
Mind you, I am not suggesting I support what was said. But I am pointing out that, as proof on this thread, the comment was not "needlessly provocative".

Given the context, it certainly was. Or do you believe that Williamson was somehow going to make Charles Johnson see the light on this issue.

The places for philosophical conversations such as this one are in private and in forums like FR. Not in public arguments with dweebs from Little Green Footballs. Williamson let himself get played. That's what's most disturbing to me about this whole episode.

40 posted on 09/30/2014 1:45:21 PM PDT by presidio9 (Islam is as Islam does.)
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