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Doubts cast on witness's account of black man killed by police in Walmart
UK Guardian ^ | Sept 7 2014 | Jon Swaine

Posted on 09/25/2014 1:06:11 PM PDT by Half Vast Conspiracy

When Ronald Ritchie called 911 from the aisles of a Walmart in western Ohio last month to report that a black man was “walking around with a gun in the store”, he said that shoppers were coming under direct threat.

“He’s, like, pointing it at people,” Ritchie told the dispatcher. Later that evening, after John Crawford III had been shot dead by one of the police officers who hurried to the scene in Beavercreek, Ritchie repeated to reporters: “He was pointing at people. Children walking by.”

One month later, Ritchie puts it differently. “At no point did he shoulder the rifle and point it at somebody,” the 24-year-old said, in an interview with the Guardian. He maintained that Crawford was “waving it around”, which attorneys for Crawford’s family deny.

Ritchie told several reporters after the 5 August shooting that he was an “ex-marine”. When confronted with his seven-week service record, however, he confirmed that he had been quickly thrown out of the US marine corps in 2008 after being declared a “fraudulent enlistment”, over what he maintains was simply a mixup over his paperwork.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Ohio
KEYWORDS: 911; badcopnodonut; donutwatch; leo; liar
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To: Moonman62

He’s a documented liar.


21 posted on 09/25/2014 6:15:31 PM PDT by Half Vast Conspiracy (Settled science.)
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To: Half Vast Conspiracy

He’s a documented liar.

...

Most people are.


22 posted on 09/25/2014 6:31:20 PM PDT by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: Half Vast Conspiracy; Alaska Wolf; DCBryan1; Slings and Arrows; Doomonyou; napscoordinator; ...
JBT Ping list

Murder by swatting.


23 posted on 09/25/2014 7:24:26 PM PDT by null and void (Only God Himself watches you more closely than the US government.)
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To: Wiser now

I’ve watched the video a few times now, and his behavior doesn’t come across as alarming to me at all.

The woman and two children who stopped in the same aisle don’t seem alarmed, either. (According to what I’ve read, she’s supposedly the same woman who collapsed and died of a heart attack when police shot Crawford.)

I’ve come across people carrying real guns through Walmart, and I wasn’t alarmed.

There are youtube videos of people purchasing firearms at Walmart. For example, if you go to this link, at around 1:20, the “customer” (really a Frenchman who obviously isn’t a serious customer) positions it to check it out:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ibtt6wTIaHk

Meanwhile, Crawford was just carrying an air rifle. It’s a shame - really sad for two victims and their families.


24 posted on 09/25/2014 10:16:50 PM PDT by Tired of Taxes
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To: Tired of Taxes

No, it wasn’t the same woman. There are multiple witnesses who have said that he was in fact waving it around and walking through the store with it on his shoulder.
http://www.daytondailynews.com/news/news/new-details-in-deaths-of-2-at-walmart/nhWF3/


25 posted on 09/26/2014 5:41:22 AM PDT by Wiser now (Socialism does not eliminate poverty, it guarantees it.)
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To: cuban leaf
I found this interesting: Doubt

Williams was the officer behind the only other fatal police shooting in Beavercreek...

Two fatal shootings in Beavercreek's history, and this guy did both?

26 posted on 09/26/2014 7:51:29 AM PDT by Half Vast Conspiracy (I'm done being even remotely civil.)
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To: Wiser now
According to news articles, that was Angela Williams entering the aisle in the video. Here are two examples:

About 55 seconds later, Angela Williams entered the pets aisle with two of her young children. Crawford stood totally still at the other end of the aisle with the rifle at his side, pointed at the floor.

Angela Williams, who can be seen in the Wal-Mart surveillance video from the night of the incident, entered the same aisle as Crawford (prior to police arrival) and left after she appeared to notice the rifle Crawford was holding. After police fired two shots at Crawford, she left Wal-Mart and suffered what Mark Piepmeier – the special prosecutor who presented evidence from the case to a special grand jury – called a heart attack.

FTR: I know nothing about those two sources. So, maybe you can find a source that says the woman in the video isn't the victim.

27 posted on 09/26/2014 5:30:37 PM PDT by Tired of Taxes
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To: Tired of Taxes

The sources I have seen read as though the woman who died was at the store alone.


28 posted on 09/26/2014 7:33:09 PM PDT by Wiser now (Socialism does not eliminate poverty, it guarantees it.)
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To: DoodleDawg

The toxicology reports show he had smoked marijuana with two hours of the incident.


29 posted on 09/26/2014 7:34:23 PM PDT by Wiser now (Socialism does not eliminate poverty, it guarantees it.)
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To: Wiser now
Sources now say that she was running with her daughter age 9 or 10.

Other sources mention that she was with two of her children. Whatever the case, she collapsed in front of one or both of them. Tragic. :-(

30 posted on 09/26/2014 8:46:00 PM PDT by Tired of Taxes
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To: Wiser now
The toxicology reports show he had smoked marijuana with two hours of the incident.

And?

31 posted on 09/27/2014 4:21:51 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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