Incest a 'fundamental right', German committee says

http://www.telegraph.co.uk ^ | 09/24/2014 | By Justin Huggler, Berlin

[redreno]

Laws banning incest between brothers and sisters in Germany could be scraped after a government ethics committee said the they were an unacceptable intrusion into the right to sexual self-determination.

“Criminal law is not the appropriate means to preserve a social taboo,” the German Ethics Council said in a statement. “The fundamental right of adult siblings to sexual self-determination is to be weighed more heavily than the abstract idea of protection of the family.”

Their intervention follows a notorious case in which a brother and sister living as partners in Saxony had four children together. The couple had been raised separately and only met when the brother, identified only as Patrick S, was an adult, and his sister Susan K was 16.

Patrick S was sentenced to more than three years in prison for incest and the couple have since failed in their bid to have the guilty verdict overturned by the European Court of Human Rights.

[WayneS]

Incest remains illegal in the UK and most European countries, although France abolished its incest laws under Napoleon I...

I did not know that - although it might explain some things I have always wondered about the french...explains a lot.

[GingisK]

I wonder how inbred little SS troopers will do in battle.

[Olog-hai]

Why not? Zoophilia was legal in Germany from 1969 until 2012. Nowadays they have illegal “bestiality brothels” after banning the abomination.

[Steve_Seattle]

Morons. Protecting the family is not an “abstract idea.”

[dalebert]

If law is not the way to preserve a civilized society then what is?

[Blood of Tyrants]

After they decided that people of the same sex should marry, this was inevitable.

[Iron Munro]

[samtheman]

This is because the inbred Islamofascists who are taking over Europe practice incest. Islamonazis don’t like marrying outside of the family because they don’t like outsiders inheriting any of their stuff.

This is a built-in survivability mechanism of Islam. As the Votaries of Islam get stupider and stupider they are less and less likely to wake up from their Islamic Nightmare and and walk away from the gruesome practices it enforces on all its members.

[caww]

[Yaelle]

In an associated ruling, the United Nations passed a resolution today in which decisions made by the sexual organs will forever heretofore replace and take precedence over the decisions made by the brain, worldwide.

Speaking on behalf of the new international law, Woody Allen testified, “The hweart wants what it wants.”

[Objective Scrutator]

Let us pray that Germany is stricken by disasters of a Biblical caliber. Maybe that will knock some sense into the secular progressives.

[Wuli]

whoever did not expect this has not been paying attention to the arguments the lawyers across “the west” have been using to redefine marriage - society is required to grant you acceptance and a hearty legal O.K. and “equal standing” to whatever you say is O.K. for yourself

as we have said before, under the terms of the demands made for redefining marriage, you cannot use them for one reason and then deny with for polygamy of nearly anything else

next to fall will be “age of consent” laws?

[Responsibility2nd]

 

If law is not the way to preserve a civilized society then what is?

You ask a very good question. And around here - many people would vehemently disagree with you. They're called libertarians. And they believe NO laws should regulate a society.

They believe freedom MUST allow for incest or uncivilized societies or whatever it takes so that their individual rights are held as the highest good.

[Steve_Seattle]

"First incest. Then pederasty, pedophilia and child pornography. Progressives are just so open minded."

The word "progressive" suggests the absence of any controlling principal of moderation or limits, so there is no reason to think that there is a point at which progressives will say, "This is as far as we can go." They will eventually march right over the cliff.

[alloysteel]

North American Marlon Brando Look-Alikes?

Incest has been shown to have serious problems, greatly accentuating genetic weaknesses that show up as recessive genes. The probability of these paired recessive genes are much multiplied in sibling pairings, which has been amply demonstrated by animal breeding experience.

Of course, if the sibling pairings avoid production of live births, this objection is somewhat less strenuous. But there are still the psychological and family structure aspects to consider, if your parents are also your in-laws.

And there is the power balance between the parties involved. Who would have seduced whom, in this instance? Can abuse be claimed, if the fight turns from sibling rivalry to marital incompatibility?

It is a rat’s-nest of problems worthy of a dissertation by Marquis de Sade. Most of those conflicts were resolved by homicide of one party or the other.

[Steve_Seattle]

"Let us pray that Germany is stricken by disasters of a Biblical caliber. Maybe that will knock some sense into the secular progressives."

They had such disasters between 1914 and 1945. They think they've learned from those disasters. I'm not sure I agree.

[PGR88]

Oh, those crazy Germans.

[newfreep]

See my post #17 to dfwgator

[Steve_Seattle]

"a fundamental right"

Someone should ask, "Says who?" If they reply, "Say we," the response is, "Prove it. That is just your opinion. And my opinion is you're wrong."

[DannyTN]