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1 posted on 08/31/2014 1:28:09 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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I’m still in awe the cop hit this thug six times while under duress.

Nice shooting.


2 posted on 08/31/2014 1:34:00 PM PDT by VeniVidiVici (Melowese Richardson - Democrat Vote Fraud Expert)
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Good informative article 2DV, thanks for posting it.


3 posted on 08/31/2014 1:40:39 PM PDT by mac_truck ( Aide toi et dieu t aidera)
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There is no doubt...Michael Brown died as at least a thief, thug, druggie and worse, a would be cop killer!!! This shyster gig is gonna backfire politically on the African-American community & the Democrat Party, big time!!! Poor souls have been setup by their own leaders starting with Obama, Holder and Sharpton!! Go figure!!!


4 posted on 08/31/2014 1:41:04 PM PDT by JLAGRAYFOX ( My only objective is to defeat and destroy Obama & his Democrat Party, politically!!!.)
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“Thus any insistence that Michael Brown was shot with his hands up or an inordinate number of times is simply unsupportable by the known facts.”

Good analysis, but facts don’t mean squat to the race-baiters and their dupes.


5 posted on 08/31/2014 1:42:52 PM PDT by piytar (The predator-class is furious that their prey are shooting back.)
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Perhaps Mr. Hunter should run a few Tueller drills.


8 posted on 08/31/2014 1:51:11 PM PDT by Theoria (I should never have surrendered. I should have fought until I was the last man alive)
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Good rational analysis by Mr Hunter.


11 posted on 08/31/2014 1:59:38 PM PDT by Rummyfan (Iraq: it's not about Iraq anymore, it's about the USA!)
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This is the most important part to me: “Finally, I note that much has been made of the fact that Brown was shot six times, as if that’s somehow relevant. A man shooting in defense of his life, police officer, soldier, or citizen, will shoot until his adversary is down. Many–but not Officer Wilson–will then shoot him a couple of more times on the ground, to make certain. People who think six is “a lot” are not familiar with the speed at which a reasonably trained shooter can fire six times with a semi-automatic pistol.”

Reminds me of the stark advice given me by a hugely experienced firearms instructor: “Don’t shoot until you you think he’s dead - shoot until HE thinks he’s dead.”


12 posted on 08/31/2014 2:05:09 PM PDT by doyle
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" One of the saddest aspects of contemporary journalism... is that almost no one on staff knows a single fact about things that go bang in the night. Some can’t tell an earplug from a rubber bullet or a semi-automatic from a full-automatic. Thus reportage on shooting incidents is always woefully flawed by ignorance and the public is ill-served, as in this disgraceful case."

Despite the fact these "journalists" know they will almost certainly cover stories involving firearms during their careers, they can't be troubled to learn the simplest things about them. An effort that might take, at most, an hour, or two.

13 posted on 08/31/2014 2:05:55 PM PDT by Flag_This (You can't spell "treason" without the "O".)
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If someone is moving toward you, wouldn’t that also be a reason for the shot placement climbing? I understood that the officer first fired from inside his vehicle. Did all those shots miss? I only heard one eyewitness report that said at least one shot hit the nearby apartment building.


14 posted on 08/31/2014 2:11:17 PM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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Dr Baden (though few if any will acknowledge it) is in the tank for the side of Michael Brown`s entourage. Hannity thinks he is wonderful, but I wonder if he and others know that his wife was on HLN all through the Zimmerman trial? She tried and convicted him along with the others.

I took notice of all these things, watching all the channels during Zimmerman trial. Dr Baden was also seen on tv saying unkind things about George Zimmerman.

All the usual suspects have taken the same sides again it seems. We see again Meagan Kelly working both sides of the fence again, damning the officer as she did Zimmerman, but still pretending to be defending him on occasion.

Zimmermans and this officers cases, both have all the earmarks of a person that is on the verge of being railroaded.

I feel good to have donated to the Officer just as I did George.


15 posted on 08/31/2014 2:11:32 PM PDT by Friendofgeorge (Justice for Officer Darren)
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Thanks to Sharpton, Jackson, and, last but not least, Obama, Americans have had it up to here with race.

As far as I'm concern, the issue of race in America is frikken dead.

From here on, though I will not discriminate against any man because of his race, I will NOT automatically extend the hand of goodwill because a man might have suffered racial injustice.

America extended its hand of goodwill toward Blacks, and Sharpton, Jackson, and Obama spat in our faces. We marched along side you, we even died for you in the civil war...in fact without Whitey you would still be slaves.

This is America, you can achieve whatever you like (for Heaven's sake, the CEO of American Express is a Black man)...but don't come crying and whining to me about race any more.

America is done here!

16 posted on 08/31/2014 2:11:58 PM PDT by RoosterRedux (The Bush Doctrine: Preventative War....The Obama Doctrine: Don't do Stupid Stuff)
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bump


20 posted on 08/31/2014 2:42:17 PM PDT by real saxophonist (Youtube + Twitter + Facebook = YouTwitFace.com)
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Watch a football game sometime and observe a rusher getting to the quarterback. The rushers arms are down as he moves through the offensive line, but when he reaches the QB he extends them for the tackle at the same time leaning forward to “spear” the QB.....

This exactly fits the scenario of the Brown shooting.....


22 posted on 08/31/2014 2:49:08 PM PDT by Forty-Niner (The barely bare, berry bear formally known as Ursus Arctos Horribilis....,I')
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What gets me is why the right feels compelled to correct the lefts Horst Wessel characterization of these incidents which are designed to stoke the racial divide without pointing out that was the intent to do so.

Or are they that naive and actually believe that it they aren’t deliberately misrepresented so that the democrats keep the blacks on their plantation ?

To a man I ‘ve seen posting after posting including the dozens 2nd Div vet has already posted here in FR’s of various publications with a conservative bent. All offer various explanations on these so called racial incidents and that includes the “talkies”. But none have yet to come forward and tell their readers and listeners. “ Hey if your an “Afro-American” your being used ! These so called racial incidents are being conjured up and used to keep US and our races divided”.

In this piece Powerline’s Steven Hunter uses 10 paragraphs that sorta, kinda, hints that may be the case but can’t really say it.

If these so called “pundits” are unable to do this why should we expect conservative politicians to do it? But don’t wonder why this will continue and perhaps get worse.


23 posted on 08/31/2014 2:50:43 PM PDT by mosesdapoet (Serious contribution pause.Please continue onto meaningless venting no one reads.)
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BTTT


26 posted on 08/31/2014 3:14:00 PM PDT by RightGeek (FUBO and the donkey you rode in on)
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For those not familiar with the physiology: when Brown received his first hit, his ability to feel pain shutdown. He may have recorded the second and later hits (until the fatal shot), but his pain mechanism was nonfunctional.

AFIK, cops are taught to fire at center of mass (roughly an 18”x18” area) that encloses a human’s most vulnerable areas. Also, cops are taught to keep firing until the perp goes down. Brown may have been going down from repeated hits, but his inertia was carrying him towards officer Wilson. Once he was hit the fifth and six times, he was dead. Again, the shot placement is indicative of an officer that is pointing his weapon and not aiming it because the threat is closing on him. He was defending himself in a life or death situation and Brown lost. Brown is dead because he was stupid. Wilson had no choice but to drop him.

31 posted on 08/31/2014 4:44:22 PM PDT by MasterGunner01
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The author assumes a similar stance at all times while the shots were fired. In theory, the arm wounds could have happened, then Saint Mike the Gentle could have stopped, raised his hands - and been shot twice more. You cannot assume the wounds to the arms occurred and then were followed immediately by the other 2 wounds.


32 posted on 08/31/2014 4:55:20 PM PDT by Mr Rogers
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A very good article with some helpful information if one is discussing the incident with someone who is of the “why did the cop need to shoot him SIX times?” school of thought.


35 posted on 08/31/2014 5:23:10 PM PDT by SuziQ
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Instead, let’s determine what can be learned from the few facts known and considered incontrovertible.

There are no known and incontrovertible facts because none of the official reports have been released. We don't know if Baden's picture is accurate, how many times Brown was hit, or anything else for sure. All we have are stories from Brown's supporters which are contradicted by supporters from Wilson supporters.

36 posted on 08/31/2014 5:39:18 PM PDT by DoodleDawg
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So much has been written about the incident at Ferguson, Missouri, that it’s remarkable none of it is of any use.

Yes, there has been much written about the incident.

It seems quite arrogant for him to say none of it is of any use. What he says has been covered extensively.

44 posted on 08/31/2014 7:43:45 PM PDT by ladyjane
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