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Time for Libertarians to Put on Their Big Boy Pants
PJ Media ^ | 8-24-14 | Roger L. Simon

Posted on 08/25/2014 9:21:23 AM PDT by afraidfortherepublic

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1 posted on 08/25/2014 9:21:23 AM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: afraidfortherepublic
“You may not be interested in war, but war is interested in you.”
2 posted on 08/25/2014 9:24:24 AM PDT by eizverson22
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To: afraidfortherepublic

And this is where I disagree with most libertarians. I have started to lean more toward the libertarian side the last few years, but I can’t go full libertarian because of abortion and national security issues.


3 posted on 08/25/2014 9:27:11 AM PDT by sean327 (God created all men equal, then some become Marines!)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

Libertopians - anarchist who hate taxes


4 posted on 08/25/2014 9:28:43 AM PDT by lormand (Inside every liberal is a dung slinging monkey)
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5 posted on 08/25/2014 9:30:23 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (The Fed Gov is not one ring to rule them all)
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To: afraidfortherepublic
Libertarians put down the doobie, AND put on your BIG BOY pants.
6 posted on 08/25/2014 9:31:18 AM PDT by rockinqsranch ((Dems, Libs, Socialists, call 'em what you will. They ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.))
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To: eizverson22

Libertarian is just another word for 60s & 70s Hippy.

It’s the land of George McGovern and flower power.

As for the military, it’s the land of anti-Reagan and anti-military. It’s the land of accepting everything the U.S.S.R. said, and trashing the Warmonger Reagan for standing up to the reasoned Commies.

Today it’s wrong to stand up to the Islamic Terrorist groups. It’s wrong to have a Navy. It’s wrong to have our military spread out around the world.

We’re supposed to pull back to our shores, and let China and Russia divide what’s out there.

When that is seen for the massive fail that it can only become, it will be too late to get things back under control with small military action, like we see today.

Libertarianism is so diseased an idiology, that it’s supporters can’t think in real world terms. Platitudes and flower power is their strong suit. Leaders will come from other venues.


7 posted on 08/25/2014 9:33:33 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (We'll know when he's really hit bottom. They'll start referring to him as White.)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

It always amuses me to see some political neophyte claim to be a libertarian; yet in the same breath claim to be against this or that which libs support.

See tagline.


8 posted on 08/25/2014 9:35:10 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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Many (but not all) libertarians are isolationists, and so would be reluctant to confront ISIS. But consider this. If Jimmy Carter had been an isolationist, the Shah of Iran would still be in power. And if Bush II had been an isolationist, Saddam would still be in power.

Then there probably would be no ISIS in the first place.

There are times were this sort of argument would fail (example: the first Gulf War), but it is something to think about.

9 posted on 08/25/2014 9:35:50 AM PDT by Leaning Right (Why am I holding this lantern? I am looking for the next Reagan.)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

A certain amount of small-l libertarianism is essential to conservatism (e.g., small government, less laws, less taxes (and taxes to raise revenue, not control people), government is not to be confused with your parent, etc.

And this is because government is, by nature, liberal in a secular nation. So the government needs to be weak and small.

But purist libertarianism does not work, especially at the border of the USA.


10 posted on 08/25/2014 9:36:22 AM PDT by TheThirdRuffian (RINOS like Romney, McCain, Christie are sure losers. No more!)
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To: DoughtyOne

Lovely strawman arguments.


11 posted on 08/25/2014 9:36:47 AM PDT by Daveinyork
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To: afraidfortherepublic

Are we really any more secure now? Also remember Bush invaded Iraq because ...? We’ve lost how many lives from all these adventures and what do we have to show for it? Republicans and Demo-rats are two sides of the same coin with both of them pushing us towards some corrupt oligarchy police state. Freedom? What is that in Amerika?


12 posted on 08/25/2014 9:38:32 AM PDT by trapped_in_LA
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“Libertarian is just another word for 60s & 70s Hippy.”

The Libtardian party was formed in the 80’s when those Hippy stoners found out they were going to be stuck with the bill for the socialism they pushed in the 60’s and 70’s.

The Libtardian plan for America never gets much past smoking lots of dope before they either fall asleep, or forget what they were talking about.


13 posted on 08/25/2014 9:42:26 AM PDT by Beagle8U (Unions are an Affirmative Action program for Slackers! .)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

Liberaltopians: with the Dems their amoral allies, modern day Sodom and Gomorrah.

Were they at the last Democrat Convention they would have voted God out with the majority


14 posted on 08/25/2014 9:45:08 AM PDT by sasportas
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To: Daveinyork

What else could you say?

Truth smarts doesn’t it.


15 posted on 08/25/2014 9:49:38 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (We'll know when he's really hit bottom. They'll start referring to him as White.)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

There’s a weird kind of pie-in-the-sky “utopianist” mindset to libertarianism that I’m extremely uncomfortable with. Just reminds me too much of the hippie-liberal way of thinking, even when positions/issues aren’t necessarily alligned.


16 posted on 08/25/2014 9:49:52 AM PDT by greene66
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To: Beagle8U

Actually they were founded in 1971, and I first met them in 1974.


17 posted on 08/25/2014 9:50:05 AM PDT by ansel12 (LEGAL immigrants, 30 million 1980-2012, continues to remake the nation's electorate for democrats)
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To: Beagle8U

Agreed.

Luckily we’re not using...

LOL


18 posted on 08/25/2014 9:50:29 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (We'll know when he's really hit bottom. They'll start referring to him as White.)
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To: ansel12

I thought the official Libtardian party was formed in 1981?


19 posted on 08/25/2014 9:56:06 AM PDT by Beagle8U (Unions are an Affirmative Action program for Slackers! .)
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To: Beagle8U

Nope, their first pro-abortion, pro-drugs, pro-gay, etc., party platform was ready for the 1972 elections.


20 posted on 08/25/2014 9:59:39 AM PDT by ansel12 (LEGAL immigrants, 30 million 1980-2012, continues to remake the nation's electorate for democrats)
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