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Ebola patients in west Africa to be denied experimental drugs used in US
The Manchester Guardian ^ | August 7, 2014 | Sarah Boseley, health editor

Posted on 08/07/2014 10:31:10 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

West African patients infected with the Ebola virus will not have access to experimental drugs being used to treat American cases of the disease for several months, if at all, Nigerian health authorities said on Thursday.

Health minister Onyebuchi Chukwu told a press conference he had asked the US health authorities about the unproven medicines used on two American doctors, but was told such small quantities existed that west Africa would have to wait for months for supplies, even if they were proved safe and effective.

Dr Kent Brantly and Dr Nancy Writebol of the evangelical Christian organisation Samantha's Purse contracted the virus while helping to treat victims in Liberia. They were given the drug ZMapp after being evacuated to the US, and appear to be recovering.

A spokesman for the US Centres for Disease Control said "there are virtually no doses available" and they would take several months to manufacture....

(Excerpt) Read more at theguardian.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: africa; ebola
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"Samantha's Purse?" Seriously?
1 posted on 08/07/2014 10:31:10 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Where have you been?


2 posted on 08/07/2014 10:32:55 PM PDT by steve86 ( Acerbic by nature, not nurture)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

At the Guardian, the only bible they know was written by Marx.


3 posted on 08/07/2014 10:32:58 PM PDT by RightGeek (FUBO and the donkey you rode in on)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Otherwise it would be “African patients to be guinea pigs!”


4 posted on 08/07/2014 10:34:34 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: steve86

Me or the author?


5 posted on 08/07/2014 10:35:02 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out for himself.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Your comment on the name “Samantha’s Purse”.


6 posted on 08/07/2014 10:40:36 PM PDT by steve86 ( Acerbic by nature, not nurture)
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To: steve86

It’s Samaritan’s Purse (from the Bible story), not Samantha’s Purse.


7 posted on 08/07/2014 10:46:26 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out for himself.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Had me worried there. I’m like “What is wrong with Sam’s Purse? and “Who is Samantha?” LOL


8 posted on 08/07/2014 10:50:27 PM PDT by Patriot Babe
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To: GeronL

yes, evil americans kill helpless africans with deadly new untested drug.


9 posted on 08/07/2014 11:00:49 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man ( Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Mapp Biopharmaceutical Inc. has a total of nine employees.

They are very busy, but they have promised to rescue Africa by next Thursday at the latest.

10 posted on 08/08/2014 12:59:48 AM PDT by TChad (The Obamacare motto: Dulce et decorum est pro patria mori.)
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To: GeronL

If it failed, it would be more bad juju from the white man.


11 posted on 08/08/2014 1:08:15 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: 2ndreconmarine; Fitzcarraldo; Covenantor; Mother Abigail; EBH; Dog Gone; ...

Ping...


12 posted on 08/08/2014 1:08:38 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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Health minister Onyebuchi Chukwu told a press conference he had asked the US health authorities about the unproven medicines used on two American doctors, but was told such small quantities existed that west Africa would have to wait for months for supplies, even if they were proved safe and effective.

As compared to the virus, which is neither safe nor effective?

What's the harm in offering people the opportunity to use an experimental drug that someone has not decided is *safe* when their alternative is dying a horrible death from Ebola?

Perspective here, folks.....

It has to be deemed *safe* by our overlords to be used by people who are going to die anyway? Not giving them the drug is not safe either.

Like what's going to happen if they take a drug that's not safe? They might die from it?

Really?

13 posted on 08/08/2014 2:18:47 AM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: metmom

Your reasoning doesn’t fit the narrative. “The West is evil. NO MATTER WHAT!”


14 posted on 08/08/2014 2:24:12 AM PDT by poobear (Socialism in the minds of the elites, is a con-game for the serfs, nothing more.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Whoever wrote the title used the emotionally laden “denied” which is probably a lie. Experimental drugs made in a lab may take hundreds of steps and cost hundreds of thousands for a few doses. The ingredients may be so expensive that its a huge investment to make ten doses. Saying you can’t make and then give away thousands of doses free is not denying the drugs. It’s just not possible to do.

Supposing the drugs worked and there was no lengthy approval required before the FDA would allow them to be made it would still take a year or more to ramp up a large scale operation to produce sufficient quantities.


15 posted on 08/08/2014 3:06:55 AM PDT by Gen.Blather
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To: metmom

And of course the same concept applies to the FDA and all the hurdles and delays it imposes on the pharmaceutical industry in terms of bringing new drugs to market. The irony is that the left usually loves such over-caution even if it costs lives by squelching innovation, but in this case there’s a racial angle to be plied so they’ll reverse their usual logic.


16 posted on 08/08/2014 3:07:41 AM PDT by Yardstick
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

...the World has never cared about what goes on in Africa....


17 posted on 08/08/2014 4:18:27 AM PDT by BCW (Amazon Books: "Babylon's Covert War" - the Iraq conflict explained in detail - by JH White)
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To: Secret Agent Man

Yep - and if something went wrong, it would be, “the Tuskegee experiment,” all over again.


18 posted on 08/08/2014 4:22:39 AM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Qui me amat, amat et canem meum.)
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To: metmom

That was why the two doctors took the experimental serum. They were going to die anyway. But experimental is just that, not tested on humans yet. They are the test people now.

Nobody knows yet if those two doctors will live or what effects the drugs will have on them.

Supposedly there is not enough of the drug manufactured yet to ship to Africa.


19 posted on 08/08/2014 4:31:07 AM PDT by dforest
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To: metmom

Have you READ how the drug is produced? have you read about the FDA trials?

There WERE exactly 5 doses in the WORLD and two, which were to be used in a safety trial, were used on people instead.

THE DRUG DOES NOT EXIST IN QUANTITY!!!!

How is that concept hard to understand?


20 posted on 08/08/2014 4:45:34 AM PDT by Freeport (The proper application of high explosives will remove all obstacles.)
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