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Posted on 08/04/2014 9:45:52 AM PDT by fishtank
Researchers see violent era in ancient Southwest
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Hmmm—They lived in harmony with mother Gaia, but not one another.
And we’re headed for ANOTHER violent era, if those damn borders stay porous.
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“It’s a given that, in numbers terms, the 20th Century was the most violent in history, with civil war, purges and two World Wars killing as many as 200 million people. But on a per-capita basis, Washington State University archaeologist Tim Kohler has documented a particularly bloody period more than eight centuries ago on what is now American soil. Between 1140 and 1180, in the central Mesa Verde ofsouthwest Colorado, four relatively peaceful centuries of pueblo living devolved into several decades of violence.
Writing in the journal American Antiquity, Kohler and his colleagues at WSU and at the University of Colorado-Boulder document how nearly nine out of ten sets of human remains from that period had trauma from blows to either their heads or parts of their arms. “If we’re identifying that much trauma, many were dying a violent death,” said Kohler, whose study was funded by the National Science Foundation.
Yet at the same time, in the northern Rio Grande region of what is now New Mexico, people had far less while experiencing similar growth and, ostensibly, population pressures. Viewed together, said Kohler, the two areas offer a view into what motivates violence in some societies but not others. The study also offers more clues to the mysterious depopulation of the northern Southwest, from a population of about 40,000 people in the mid-1200s to none 30 years later.”
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If you know them today at all they are far from harmony with anything.
“And we’re headed for ANOTHER violent era, if those damn borders stay porous.”
Not if...but when.
Having just come back from a trip to Tuba City in Northern Arizona, I can say that there is little love lost between today’s Navajo and the Hopi. Take away the minimum comfort level today’s society provides, and there would certainly be blood.
If the ancient Indian civilizations had the same weaponry that existed in the 20th century, does anyone think the warfare would have been any less in the numbers of casualties? I doubt it. It’s my understanding that many Indian tribes exterminated other tribes several times prior to Columbus.
Anthropologists and archaeologists will say anything to publish. For all they know it could have been gang violence due to drugs.
Globull warming caused it.................
For all they know someone insulted someone’s sister.
Navajo and Apache (Athabascan tribes) stole land from Hopi and Zuni (Pueblo tribes), who - if I remember correctly, predated the arrival of the Athabascan tribes by about 1,000 years.
That can’t be! Everyone knows “Dances With Wolves” was a documentary.
The droughts in Bandelier National Park Fijole Canyon were severe enough 500 years ago to empty the place permanently. Fighting over water and land is not new.
“Indian tribes exterminated other tribes several times prior to Columbus.”
There’s a bronze plaque on the approach to a mesa village in Arizona. The entire village was on this table-top rock that had to be reached via a ledge that was, in places, only 6’’ wide. Every pint of water and cord of wood came up that path. The plaque gushed, “Obviously, these peaceful people built up here to take advantage of the spectacular views.” My companion and I burst out laughing. It was the only defensible spot for miles. An old woman with a rock could have held the top. The anthropologists were full of sh*t.
“Aztec cannibalism and human sacrifice (especially at the dedication of the great pyramid of Huitzilopochtli in 1487) on a scale approaching the daily murder rate at Auschwitz are seldom discussed as a part of the Mexican past.”
Mexifornia, Victor Davis Hanson, pg.76
Gee, the Indians fought amongst themselves?
I thought it was all the White Man’s fault?
That’s one of the great myths propagated by liberal educators (that’s most of them) for the past fifty years. The idea that the noble original inhabitants were just as bloodthirsty as the nasty, white Europeans is an abhorrent thought to the libs. So they had to concoct a story about all Indians being at one with nature and their Indian neighbors. In reality, many American Indian tribes, like the Sioux, were as happy to slaughter their neighbors and take their lands as were Europeans.
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