Posted on 08/01/2014 12:47:26 PM PDT by ColdOne
WASHINGTON (AP) — President Barack Obama says in the immediate aftermath of 9/11, the United States did things that were wrong and crossed the line. He says, quote, "we tortured some folks."
Obama is commenting on a Senate investigation into the CIA's interrogation techniques.
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Because it can hurt us and it allows him to showcase his alleged moral superiority.
He is a no good evil poser. He should be arrested and removed from office.
I demand you apologize to sh**heads everywhere for that insult. They have feelings too. I don’t believe Obama rises to the level of sh**head. (snicker)
Hey, they were dreamers too. They dreamed of killing Americans.
Every time in see those photos I get the same feeling. Sadness, and then anger. May we never forget!
Resign you traitor.
I know, that halting speech is so annoying and difficult to listen to I wanted to take a hammer to my head to put myself out of my misery. Obama is SO inarticulate. TRUTH!
Usama is under a million tons of rock in Tora Bora. Ubama just needed a distraction.
Too bad we are represented by a bunch of wussies who refuse to get rid of him. If anyone deserves to be impeached and removed from office I’d say he’s prime candidate.
An act of torture committed outside the United States by a U.S. national or a non-national now within the U.S. is punishable under 18 U.S.C. § 2340. The definition of torture used is as follows:
"torture" means an act committed by a person acting under the color of law specifically intended to inflict severe physical or mental pain or suffering (other than pain or suffering incidental to lawful sanctions) upon another person within his custody or physical control; "severe mental pain or suffering" means the prolonged mental harm caused by or resulting from - (A) the intentional infliction or threatened infliction of severe physical pain or suffering; (B) the administration or application, or threatened administration or application, of mind-altering substances or other procedures calculated to disrupt profoundly the senses or the personality; (C) the threat of imminent death; or (D) the threat that another person will imminently be subjected to death, severe physical pain or suffering, or the administration or application of mind-altering substances or other procedures calculated to disrupt profoundly the senses or personality;
Waterboarding CERTAINLY meets this definition. It is beyond dispute.
The only folks who dispute it are those who have done it, ordered it, and fear prosecution for it.
That's not to say that it should not be done. I would HAPPILY waterboard a known terrorist to discover his supporters and collaborators.
Good.
Slamming the waterboarding....again.
And in the cases we employed it, justified torture.
Your opinion is beyond dispute to Dems and John McCain. Even McCain tacitly admitted it didn't meet the definition when he insisted on new legislation that in effect made the Army regulation on treatment of prisoners federal law. The Army reg did not just prohibit torture, but requires humane treatment and prohibits physical harassment. The Army reg has been applied to all uniformed services. That is why it was legal for CIA to waterboard but not legal for the uniformed services.
We tortured some A-holes?
Well gee...So?
It's certain that you have never been on a waterboard or seen it's application in real life.
You're probably parroting Ollie North's insistence that it's not torture.
I've been on the waterboard at SERE in Warner Springs. I am certain I could convince a jury of you's that it meets any definition of torture...by demonstration.
Certain.
Men will do whatever is in their power to ensure they are never "taken alive" so that they never have the experience it again.
Every volunteer in CIA testing capitulated within 14 seconds.
Every SERE member who was ALLOWED to capitulate would do so in 20 seconds or less.
Every one.
But it's not torture? Do you even have a clue what the hell you are talking about?
I'm talking about a legal definition which in this case sets a very high standard.
If you were right, then the instructors at SERE are breaking federal criminal law every time they do that exercise. So, according to you, they are criminals?
Do you even know what you are talking about?
Yes, and you have identified the reason Ollie North insists waterboarding is not torture.
He would be guilty of a felony if it was.
There are more than a dozen SERE graduates on 100% VA disability as a result of SERE waterboarding.
You're just another foolish armchair pundit parroting the words of people you believe have philosophies similar to yours.
But you know absolutely nothing about the subject you are addressing.
With a little effort you could learn. Do a Google Search and learn about the applied methods and the physiological impacts.
You know, the real life stuff.
Oh, and this Senate report, the one that has not been released...what does it say?
The Senate report does not call it torture. But I guess they don’t know anything more about it than Ollie North.
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