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Fed appeals court panel says most Obamacare subsidies illegal
CNBC.com ^ | July 22, 2014 | Dan Mangan

Posted on 07/22/2014 7:30:07 AM PDT by gwjack

This is a breaking news story. Please check back for updates. In a potentially crippling blow to Obamacare, a top federal appeals court Tuesday said that billions of dollars worth of government subsidies that helped 4.7 million people buy insurance on HealthCare.gov are not legal under the Affordable Care Act.

(Excerpt) Read more at cnbc.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: halbig; obamacare; subsidies
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To: Dilbert San Diego

The real significance of this decision is where there are no subsidies there are no taxes that can be collected for not having compliant insurance. This would allow states that don’t have exchanges to allow “sub-standard” policies that would allow coverage as before Obamacare.


81 posted on 07/22/2014 8:04:21 AM PDT by boilerfan (Hoosier born, Boilermaker educated!)
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To: Fantasywriter
So what I infer from this article is that, should appeals fail, we’ll have no subsidies in GA?

You're correct. The court just ruled that there should be no subsidies in states that didn't set up their own exchanges.

It should now proceed to the Supreme Court, where the final decision will be made - assuming, of course, that the fed.gov files an appeal.

82 posted on 07/22/2014 8:04:37 AM PDT by SCalGal (Friends don't let friends donate to H$U$, A$PCA, or PETA.)
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To: gwjack

Wet blanket warning...... There are a lot of powerful people heavily invested in 0care. Court orders, laws, the will of the people hasn’t affected them up until now.


83 posted on 07/22/2014 8:05:08 AM PDT by demshateGod (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: Fantasywriter

Unmentioned is that if you received subsidies and they were not legal, you must pay them back


84 posted on 07/22/2014 8:05:23 AM PDT by bert ((K.E.; N.P.; GOPc.;+12 ..... Obama is public enemy #1)
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To: Hoodat

Well, now I’m confused. Many people in states with exchanges still “simply” purchased insurance directly from the insurance companies, and then applied for the subsidy via healthcare.gov. What happens to those people?


85 posted on 07/22/2014 8:05:23 AM PDT by Paul R. (Leftists desire to control everything; In the end they invariably control nothing worth a damn.)
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To: Old Teufel Hunden

Is this the same suit in which subsidies were given to people in states that didn’t set up exchanges...something like that?


86 posted on 07/22/2014 8:06:15 AM PDT by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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To: Scoutmaster
It is part of the legal process.

Yes it is, but Obama can't make it happen.

87 posted on 07/22/2014 8:06:24 AM PDT by Focault's Pendulum (I live in NJ....' Nuff said!)
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To: Focault's Pendulum
No, it's not illegal. It's called an en banc (French for "on the bench") hearing and it happens regularly.
88 posted on 07/22/2014 8:06:30 AM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind. ~Steve Earle)
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To: gwjack

And then there are the states like Oregon, who couldn’t make their website work despite $250 MILLION spent on it, who’ve had to fall back on the federal website.

I’m going to enjoy watching this thing go up in flames.


89 posted on 07/22/2014 8:06:46 AM PDT by Twotone (Marte Et Clypeo)
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To: Old Teufel Hunden

If Obamacare is not torn out by the roots and still must be purchased by law, this reduces a lot of people to the level of slaves. Votes have consequences, I have no sympathy, they got what they voted for.


90 posted on 07/22/2014 8:06:53 AM PDT by Foundahardheadedwoman (God don't have a statute of limitations)
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To: Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America

Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America wrote:
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The path to Single Payer requires that Obamacare DOESN’T work. Frustration in Obamacare would trigger people wanting a fix, and that fix would be Single Payer. Who would rollout the BIG FIX? Prez Hillary or Prez Elizabeth Warren, that’s who!!!!
Remember how the O’care rollout was a failure? That was INTENTIONAL!!! If the rollout worked yet Obamacare was still a miserable failure, then they couldn’t blame the website!!!!! They needed something to blame for O’care’s failure, so they kept the website down so they could BLAME something for O’care being a failure. Sick thinking but that’s team Obama for ya.
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I agree with you, although a single payer system would need to be legislated into law through Congress and fortunately there aren’t enough radical leftists in either chamber to ram something like this through, like they did in 2010.


91 posted on 07/22/2014 8:07:19 AM PDT by DestroyLiberalism
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To: Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America

I couldn’t have said it better.

June/July 2014 is truly Obama’s Summer of recovery. He has to be in recovery after the frequent, and multiple losses. Hobby Lobby, Benghazi special committee, revelation of IRS lies, involvement in current border invasion, sissy response to the civilian shoot down, being merely a casual bystander in the Israel/Gaza conflict.

June/July 2014 may well be a series of events hat confirms the irrelevancy of Zero’s presidency. But, we should not celebrate as if the game is over. We must remain vigilant and continue to pummel him until the final horn blows. As I told my little league teams, we should leave it all on the field/court. Then we will have no regrets about what might have been. Time for celebration will flourish when the clock has expired.


92 posted on 07/22/2014 8:07:43 AM PDT by gwjack (May God give America His richest blessings.)
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http://www.foxnews.com/politics/interactive/2014/07/22/federal-appeals-court-decision-on-obamacare-subsidies/?cmpid=cmty_twitter_fn


93 posted on 07/22/2014 8:08:04 AM PDT by sheikdetailfeather ("The Border Is On Fire & Washington Is Sending Us Gasoline" AZ Ranchers John Ladd & Fred Davis 7/14)
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To: gwjack; Lurking Libertarian; Perdogg; JDW11235; Clairity; Spacetrucker; Art in Idaho; GregNH; ...

Of-interest ping to SCOTUS list.


94 posted on 07/22/2014 8:09:03 AM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind. ~Steve Earle)
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To: gwjack

Little King Barry will just ignore Article 3 (Judicial) rulings that are NOT in his favor. I see the Admin will appeal, but this turkey NEEDS TO GO DOWN AND NONE TOO SOON.


95 posted on 07/22/2014 8:09:27 AM PDT by Cheerio (Barry Hussein Soetoro-0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: gwjack

Maybe it was written in Manganese...............


96 posted on 07/22/2014 8:09:57 AM PDT by Red Badger (If you compromise with evil, you just get more evil..........................)
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To: gwjack

I guess I’ve become jaded, but I see Obama simply saying, “How many soldiers does the Court command?” and going to play golf.


97 posted on 07/22/2014 8:10:07 AM PDT by Noamie
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To: gwjack

Off the top, does anyone have the list of the 34 states who did not set up Obamacare .....who opted out


98 posted on 07/22/2014 8:10:30 AM PDT by Guenevere
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To: gwjack

I am guardedly optimistic. Very guardedly.

We are no longer a nation of laws, but of edicts. Relying on a Supreme Court decision is looking to the wrong authority for assurance.


99 posted on 07/22/2014 8:10:37 AM PDT by fwdude (The last time the GOP ran an "extremist," Reagan won 44 states.)
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To: Night Hides Not

Obama (the regime he’s the face of) will stop when they’re forcefully stopped. They have an agenda, they’re going forward without, words on paper have never mattered to them.


100 posted on 07/22/2014 8:11:08 AM PDT by demshateGod (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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