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The Feds Just Seized 40 Land Rovers Imported To The U.S.
http://jalopnik.com/the-feds-just-seized-40-land-rovers-imported-to-the-u-s-1605985758 ^ | July 17 2014 | Patrick George

Posted on 07/18/2014 10:22:10 AM PDT by PoloSec

Some 40 Land Rover owners across the U.S. woke up Tuesday morning to police and federal investigators knocking on their doors and demanding they hand over their trucks. Officials say it's part of an ongoing criminal investigation into the illegal importation of Land Rovers into this country, Jalopnik has learned.

But that will likely come as little consolation to the 40 owners of the Land Rover 90s, 110s and Defenders, many of whom contest what federal authorities claim about the legality of their cars.

News of the seizures first appeared on the Land Rover Defender forum Defender Source around 8 a.m. Tuesday, when one user posted to say that the U.S. Department of Homeland Security came to his home at 6:45 a.m. to seize his truck. That user was quickly joined by several others, who said their Land Rovers were confiscated by investigators who came to their homes with federal warrants.

One of them was Danny Harrington, who lives in Albany, New York. Last year he bought a 1983 Land Rover 110 through a friend in New York. He told Jalopnik that police drove around his residence looking for his truck, and then went to his parents' house 10 miles away to find it — a house where it wasn't even registered.

"They told me it was illegally imported, and the guy who imported it last year falsified the paperwork on the truck," Harrington said. The investigators came to the house with a list of VIN numbers and said his was on it, and that they were taking it with them.

Curiously, Harrington said police insisted his Land Rover was a year 2000 model. He says that his VIN number definitely goes back to a 1979 to 1984 truck, and not a newer one.

"It's clearly a 1983," he said of his very obviously older project vehicle. "It's not a show truck. It's a mess. It's a work truck."

Vincent Picard, a spokesman for U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement, said authorities believe the cars were unlawfully brought into the U.S.

"ICE Homeland Security Investigations special agents served court-ordered seizure warrants on approximately 40 Land Rovers in various locations around the country," he said in an email. "The seizures are being made pursuant to an ongoing criminal investigation involving the unlawful importation of the vehicles from Great Britain. The Land Rovers, which do not meet federal safety or emission standards, cannot be lawfully operated in the United States."

That was news to Harrington, who says he bought the car legally in New York last year and has a title to prove it. "I don't even know who imported it," he said.

Forum member Hitch weighed in as well:

I had 2 homeland security agents, state police, and local sheriff in my drive way when I went outside to go to work today. My, what I believe to be an 1986 110 was arrested and seized about 8:30 this morning.

When I purchased my vehicle I went to NC from Florida to look at and drive it. I compared the VIN on the bill of sale to the frame VIN and the VIN plate near the master cylinder. I in no way thought I was gambling in purchasing a vehicle that was licensed in NC. and had been in the states for a year prior to me purchasing it. The state police detective showed me where the engine block VIN had been filed and re-stamped.

On the dept of treasury process receipt it lists Land Rover Vehicles and the defendant. There are 61 VINS listed on the warrant. I was told I have 35 days to file a claim and was not given a form or anything to file. I spoke to the attorney listed on the complaint and he told me the case is still and open investigation and could not talk to me about it for another 24-48 hours.

So it's possible more than just these 40 Land Rovers are being targeted.

Picard directed further questions to the U.S. Attorney's Office for the Eastern District of North Carolina, but an official there said the case was under seal and that no one could discuss it.

So it's not clear exactly why the Land Rovers have been taken, but last year some 20 Defenders were seized by Homeland Security and Customs from a chiropractor's house in suburban North Carolina, Car and Driver reported at the time. Exclusive: Feds Declare War on Black-Market Land Rover Defenders

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Meanwhile, nobody at either NHTSA or CBP could comment on the status of Aaron Richardet, the chiropractor. Several people in the Defender community have told us that "Doc Aaron" was running a business importing later-model Defenders; if that's true, he's likely facing trouble.

It would appear that these latest seizures are also related to that federal criminal case, which targeted Richardet. Members of the Land Rover forum seem to think the same thing.

With a federal criminal case, it's going to be tough — if not impossible — to get anyone to comment on the record about what happened here until indictments are handed down, if that even happens. My sense is that these Land Rovers were all seized as evidence in that case.

(A spokesman for Jaguar-Land Rover said the investigation appears to be related to cars sold by unaffiliated third parties.)

Picard, the ICE spokesman, added: "The vehicle owners, who are victims of this criminal scheme, will have an opportunity to seek restitution for their losses."

That's what Harrington probably plans on doing, although said he still doesn't understand why police had to come to his house to take his car or why his car's VIN number registers as a newer one to federal investigators.

"I just don't understand why this was so aggressive," he said.


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To: wagglebee

” it was in the shop ALL the time and made all sorts of strange noises”

So, they never found the limey hiding in the bonnet?


21 posted on 07/18/2014 10:38:19 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: GraceG

Used to say about the Soviet Union that the individual planned his future to be either pointing the pistol, or looking down the muzzle of it.

Bet all these Land Rover owners were white male Republicans.


22 posted on 07/18/2014 10:38:58 AM PDT by elcid1970 ("In the modern world, Muslims are living fossils.")
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To: wagglebee

“My wife had an LR2 for about three years, it was in the shop ALL the time and made all sorts of strange noises. We traded it just before the warranty ran out.”

LOL...sorry to year that though. The Brits may do some things right (although examples allude me), but building cars is NOT one of them.


23 posted on 07/18/2014 10:40:02 AM PDT by BobL
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To: PoloSec

Well, I sympathize with the victims, but I also understand that if these vehicles have been stolen, they must be retained as evidence in order to prosecute the guilty parties, else, the courts would throw out the case for lack of evidence. It’s a shame. Don’t blame the officers. Blame our judicial system.


24 posted on 07/18/2014 10:42:57 AM PDT by Real Cynic No More (Border Fence Obamacare!)
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To: elcid1970
BOL! "Bet all these Land Rover owners were white male Republicans."

Most if not all the LR owners, we know are Republicans.

25 posted on 07/18/2014 10:45:06 AM PDT by Grampa Dave ( Obama's Storm of Illegal immigrants, = new democRat voters and his 2016 FDR 3rd term attempt!)
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To: MrB
Nope, but they looked often enough.

The dealer kept trying to explain that these noises were "normal" and couldn't seem to understand why we didn't think we should be able to hear them above the stereo even when it was parked.

26 posted on 07/18/2014 10:45:57 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: PoloSec

but if they were illegal aliens, it’d be fine


27 posted on 07/18/2014 10:46:38 AM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: wagglebee

The wanker kept getting tangled up in the fan belt, I’d wager.


28 posted on 07/18/2014 10:46:51 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: PoloSec

Isn’t amazing the HLS can track down these so called illegal vehicles and couldn’t find the Boston Marathon serial killers before they slaughtered and maimed a lot of innocent people.

“News of the seizures first appeared on the Land Rover Defender forum Defender Source around 8 a.m. Tuesday, when one user posted to say that the U.S. Department of Homeland Security came to his home at 6:45 a.m. to seize his truck. That user was quickly joined by several others, who said their Land Rovers were confiscated by investigators who came to their homes with federal warrants.

One of them was Danny Harrington, who lives in Albany, New York. Last year he bought a 1983 Land Rover 110 through a friend in New York. He told Jalopnik that police drove around his residence looking for his truck, and then went to his parents’ house 10 miles away to find it — a house where it wasn’t even registered.”

“They told me it was illegally imported, and the guy who imported it last year falsified the paperwork on the truck,” Harrington said. The investigators came to the house with a list of VIN numbers and said his was on it, and that they were taking it with them.”


29 posted on 07/18/2014 10:47:42 AM PDT by Grampa Dave ( Obama's Storm of Illegal immigrants, = new democRat voters and his 2016 FDR 3rd term attempt!)
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To: PoloSec
In the mean time, half of the cars in northern and central mexico have expired plates from the US states where they were stolen and driven across the border, no questions asked courtesy of the US and mexican governments. All other imports get put under the microscope, with the exception of china, they get a free pass, and preferential treatment, being fellow communists and all that.
30 posted on 07/18/2014 10:49:44 AM PDT by factoryrat (We are the producers, the creators. Grow it, mine it, build it.)
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To: Grampa Dave

I figured it out!

These 40 DIDN’T LEAK OIL!

They had to be seized.


31 posted on 07/18/2014 10:49:45 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: PoloSec

Jackasses really don’t have anything better to do than hassle citizens.


32 posted on 07/18/2014 10:51:04 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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To: BobL
The Jaguar E-type was one of the most beautiful cars ever made, but it also came with its own tool kit to deal with the regular breakdowns.
33 posted on 07/18/2014 10:55:29 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: PoloSec

Had ENOUGH Yet ?


34 posted on 07/18/2014 10:56:21 AM PDT by S.O.S121.500 (Had ENOUGH Yet ? ........................ Enforce the Bill of Rights ......... It's the LAW !!!)
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To: BobL

“They’re such junk that the feds are probably doing them a favor by taking them away.”

A few years ago I went fly fishing with a guy who owned a decade old LR. The LR ran great during the 3 day trip. I asked him how he got a good one.

He said it was a lemon when he bought it. He basically had every part replaced before his warranty ran out. Somehow he had gotten a copy of bad parts and what the shop was to tell the owners to avoid doing any warranty work. So he knew how to handle his dealer and demand that certain parts be replaced with new ones. If the part worked the way it was intended, he bought an spare or two for his future use.


35 posted on 07/18/2014 10:57:01 AM PDT by Grampa Dave ( Obama's Storm of Illegal immigrants, = new democRat voters and his 2016 FDR 3rd term attempt!)
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To: PoloSec

Busting land rovers, Boston strip clubs for counterfeit NFL merchandise, investigating plumbers, rodeos, leononaide stands, ranchers, neurosurgeons, scummy YouTube film makers, not so scummy film makers, the list goes on and on and on


36 posted on 07/18/2014 10:58:16 AM PDT by gaijin
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To: MrB

Apparently they are ‘illegal alien’ Land Rovers......................


37 posted on 07/18/2014 11:00:36 AM PDT by Red Badger (If you compromise with evil, you just get more evil..........................)
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To: Vigilanteman
Pretty impressive how they can track down a 1983 Land Rover, right down to the pedigree of the owner’s father, but haven’t a fricking clue about who overstayed their visa and how many relatives they’ve sneaked into the country.

That seems to be standard with Herr Obozo's SS troopers.


38 posted on 07/18/2014 11:00:47 AM PDT by Grampa Dave ( Obama's Storm of Illegal immigrants, = new democRat voters and his 2016 FDR 3rd term attempt!)
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To: MrB
BOL! You may have cracked the code:

"I figured it out! These 40 DIDN’T LEAK OIL! They had to be seized."

39 posted on 07/18/2014 11:02:05 AM PDT by Grampa Dave ( Obama's Storm of Illegal immigrants, = new democRat voters and his 2016 FDR 3rd term attempt!)
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To: BobL
The Brits may do some things right (although examples allude me), but building cars is NOT one of them.

Ever hear of Lucas Lighting, a POHM company?

Their nickname was "Lucas, prince of darkness" for the renowned quality of their products.

40 posted on 07/18/2014 11:06:23 AM PDT by Utilizer (Bacon A'kbar! - In world today are only peaceful people, and the mooslimbs trying to kill them-)
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