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Don't let nativism cloud the immigration debate
The Washington Examiner ^ | July 10, 2014 | Shikha Dalmia

Posted on 07/11/2014 2:57:52 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

Here’s a question for the proud Americans demanding that the unaccompanied foreign children showing up at our borders be deported: Suppose that one of these “illegal” minors was your neighbor, living with his aunt and uncle, going to school during the day, kicking ball with friends in the evening, trying hard to put the traumatic journey from his native, violence-ridden country to America behind him. Would you, with a clear conscience, pick up the phone and turn him in?

If the answer is “no,” then it is time for you to throw out your “Return to Sender” signs. Why? Because asking your government to do what you can’t ain’t right!

America is blessed with a rich and stable neighbor on the north and oceans on the east and west. Hence, it is naturally insulated from the nasty side effects of civil wars, famines and other catastrophes outside its borders that other countries routinely confront. But unless it relocates to another planet, it can’t completely cut itself off from foreign upheavals, especially those it has a hand in causing.

Anti-immigration hardliners are blaming the surge of minors - 90,000 alone this year, a five-fold increase from 2011 -- on America's lenient deportation policies and the prospect of “amnesty.” The reality is more complicated.

The surge comes almost exclusively from three of the most dangerous countries in the hemisphere -- Honduras, El Salvador and Guatemala. Why are they so dangerous? In part, because of America's illicit drug war.

This trillion-dollar war puts the onus on Latin American countries to stop drugs from flowing into the U.S. -- rather than on the U.S. to curb its own appetite. America has conditioned aid and market access on how hard these countries crack down on drug dealers...

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonexaminer.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: aliens; amnesty; illegalimmigration; immigration; lping; nativism; obama; warondrugs; xenophobia
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

OK shiksa, WHAT foreign upheavel have we had a hand in causing, and are these the people from that alleged upheaval ?


21 posted on 07/11/2014 3:21:00 PM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true .. I have no proof .. but they're true.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Neighbors run to report every other damn thing to the nanny state, WHY NOT THIS?


22 posted on 07/11/2014 3:21:24 PM PDT by UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide (HELL, NO! BE UNGOVERNABLE! --- ISLAM DELENDA EST)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Guilty. Deport (citizen or not)


23 posted on 07/11/2014 3:22:31 PM PDT by UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide (HELL, NO! BE UNGOVERNABLE! --- ISLAM DELENDA EST)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
"Suppose that one of these “illegal” minors was your neighbor ... trying hard to put the traumatic journey from his native, violence-ridden country to America behind him. Would you, with a clear conscience, pick up the phone and turn him in?"

I'm sure many of them are my neighbors. Who do I call that would actually do something? Government policy is to allow and assist la Reconquista and to label anyone opposed a racist.

24 posted on 07/11/2014 3:24:38 PM PDT by Gil4 (And the trees are all kept equal by hatchet, ax and saw)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; All

She certainly looks like she’s prospered in a country she didn’t help create or fight for.

Damn! I can’ help it. It’s that old-fashioned nativism escaping again.

Look, b!tch! I don’t need your advice as to how this country needs to function.

Go away! Pest!


25 posted on 07/11/2014 3:26:49 PM PDT by x1stcav ("The past is a foreign country: they do things differently there.")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Would you, with a clear conscience, pick up the phone and turn him in?

YES, I have been calling the Border Patrol to pick up illegals for over 25 years, I am not about to stop now.

26 posted on 07/11/2014 3:28:59 PM PDT by c-b 1 (Reporting from behind enemy lines, in occupied AZTLAN.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

And I say don’t let a false accusation and slander “cloud the debate”!


27 posted on 07/11/2014 3:32:00 PM PDT by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Would you, with a clear conscience, pick up the phone and turn him in?

Tacit admission they have no rational debating points.

28 posted on 07/11/2014 3:32:27 PM PDT by Balding_Eagle (If America falls, darkness will cover the face of the earth for a thousand years.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Playing ball, going to school, infecting everyone with parasites, incurable diseases, etc.


29 posted on 07/11/2014 3:33:23 PM PDT by odawg
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“Reason” staff has been getting the red-a$$ over this stance on their Facebook page.

I know this because I’m one of those people calling them idiots for this stance.


30 posted on 07/11/2014 3:33:55 PM PDT by Dead Corpse (Tri nornar eg bir. Binde til rota...)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Would you, with a clear conscience, pick up the phone and turn him in?

I'd not only turn him in, I'd turn in his aunt and uncle for aiding and abetting, then go and have a ham sandwich.

I have NO -- repeat -- NO -- moral obligation to the rest of the world. Just as they have no obligation to me.

31 posted on 07/11/2014 3:42:54 PM PDT by IronJack
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

This guy is an idiot,
If we did not have a WELFARE STATE they would not be here.
And they are all cowards running away instead of standing and fighting their own corrupt government. Have you ever sat back and looked at WE call the third world?? every last third world hellhole on earth is run by COMMUNIST DICTATORS, including Mexico.


32 posted on 07/11/2014 3:55:42 PM PDT by eyeamok
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33 posted on 07/11/2014 3:56:38 PM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I ran out of compassion 15 million illegal aliens ago.


34 posted on 07/11/2014 4:00:59 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Haven't you lost enough freedoms? Support an end to the WOD now.)
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To: headstamp 2

bump


35 posted on 07/11/2014 4:06:45 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: IronJack
I'd not only turn him in, I'd turn in his aunt and uncle for aiding and abetting, then go and have a ham sandwich. "

LOL

36 posted on 07/11/2014 4:17:52 PM PDT by CatherineofAragon ((Support Christian white males---the architects of the jewel known as Western Civilization).)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Only sociopaths/psychopaths refuse to acknowledge the difference between legal and illegal immigration.
37 posted on 07/11/2014 4:25:33 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("The more numerous the laws, the more corrupt the government." --Tacitus)
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To: Opinionated Blowhard

You are right. The rule of law is blind and does not see color or race. The purpose of our immigration laws is to protect our country, not exclusion.

If you look up the definition of nativism, it can either mean “protecting the interests of native inhabitants” (what’s wrong with that??), or “an irrational prejudice against immigrants”. I think we all know which definition the author is using.

The author is attempting to make nativism the new “n” word.

Ugh.


38 posted on 07/11/2014 4:36:04 PM PDT by Reddy (B.O. stinks)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“Here’s a question for the proud Americans demanding that the unaccompanied foreign children showing up at our borders be deported: Suppose that one of these “illegal” minors was your neighbor, living with his aunt and uncle, going to school during the day, kicking ball with friends in the evening, trying hard to put the traumatic journey from his native, violence-ridden country to America behind him. Would you, with a clear conscience, pick up the phone and turn him in?”

Here’s the real question... there are almost a MILLION “illegal” minors on your doorstep, wanting to live with his (cough) aunt and uncle, using scarce school funding resources during the day, etc... How do you handle that?

It’s not ONE freaking kid, it’s a MILLION! How do we handle that when we are $17T in debt, our Vets aren’t getting the care they were promised, Medicare and SS are going bankrupt, etc.

Stop sticking your head in the sand and GROW UP!!!


39 posted on 07/11/2014 4:40:31 PM PDT by Reddy (B.O. stinks)
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