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Letting the IRS Get Away With It ... Mark Steyn
Steyn Online ^ | 28 June 2014 | Mark Steyn

Posted on 06/29/2014 1:11:29 AM PDT by Rummyfan

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At any rate, ever since our suggestion that you might like to help out in this manner, we've had a steady stream of emails from readers explaining that this is all well and good but it's taxable income and what I really need to do is set up a 501(c)3 or 501(c)4 or 501(c)87 or some such as a vehicle for this campaign.

To which the answer is: well, we certainly considered the possibility, and a few years ago I might have entertained the notion. But not anymore. The National Organization for Marriage, which was founded to protect the pre-revisionist definition of marriage, is, in its various arms, both a 501(c)3 and a 501(c)4. As such, its tax returns are publicly available, but not its donor lists. Nevertheless, it is obliged to report its donors on Schedule B to the Internal Revenue Service. Someone at the IRS leaked the donor lists to a man called Matthew Meisel, a gay activist in Boston. Meisel in turn passed it on to the gay group Human Rights Campaign (whose president was a national co-chair of the Obama re-election campaign), and HRC in turn published the list of donors, which was subsequently re-published by The Huffington Post.

There's no secret about why they'd do such a thing. As we know, if you disagree with progressive orthodoxy, you have no right to host a cable-TV home-decor show or give a commencement address at an American university or be a beauty-queen contestant. But that's not enough for these groups.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: donor; donorlist; election; irs; marksteyn; scandal; steyn; teaparty

1 posted on 06/29/2014 1:11:29 AM PDT by Rummyfan
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To: Rummyfan
This is nothing to do with whether you support or oppose same-sex marriage. This is about whether you support free speech, public advocacy, private advocacy and ultimately - one day soon - the sanctity of the ballot box, and whether you oppose a culture of partisan thuggery.
2 posted on 06/29/2014 1:13:24 AM PDT by Rummyfan (Iraq: it's not about Iraq anymore, it's about the USA!)
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To: Rummyfan
A while back, I had an interaction with the IRS. The lady was very pleasant and I rather enjoyed the conversation and the matter was favorably resolved. But at one point there was a certain cold steely moment when she explained what the agency could do to me. And, being a foreigner and used to the considerably more circumscribed powers of civilized revenue agencies, I said: "Hang on a minute, what about due process?"

And she said: "Well, I wouldn't know anything about that."

3 posted on 06/29/2014 1:16:13 AM PDT by Rummyfan (Iraq: it's not about Iraq anymore, it's about the USA!)
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To: Rummyfan

Steyn’s right, as usual.
Abolish the IRS and replace it with a more constrained agency and simplified tax code more conducive to a civilized society.
These people are out of control.

While we’re at it, about half of government could be trimmed.
That would be a good start.


4 posted on 06/29/2014 1:24:18 AM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: all armed conservatives)
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To: JLS

Steyn ping #2.


5 posted on 06/29/2014 1:36:17 AM PDT by Slings and Arrows (You can't have Ingsoc without an Emmanuel Goldstein.s)
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To: Rummyfan

Lets just throw in the towel and go for a one party system of “democratic republicanism” , after all we have the liberal fascists and Obama all keyed up and ready to go! /S


6 posted on 06/29/2014 1:38:22 AM PDT by Candor7 (Obama fascism article:(http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html))
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To: Rummyfan

The IRS is NOW nothing more than part of a federally funded extortion ring. Learner, Meisel and all the rest are no better than mafiosa shakedown thugs. Issa needs a special prosecutor, and the RICO ( racketeering and influence peddling)statute needs to be invoked.


7 posted on 06/29/2014 1:39:26 AM PDT by Candor7 (Obama fascism article:(http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html))
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To: Rummyfan
So how did leaking the National Organization for Marriage donor lists work out for the IRS? Well, after a two-year legal battle, the Government of the United States admitted wrongdoing and agreed to settle. For $50,000.

Bull Crap! I want people to go to jail.

For example, they claimed that the leak was an inadvertent error by a low-level clerk called Wendy Peters in March 2011. But in February 2011 Mr Meisel, the gay activist, was already letting it be known that he had a source who could get him the info.

Someone needs to go to jail for perjury for this! I am tired of these Leftist Government flunkies getting away with their trampling on people’s freedom to exercise their right to be active in political speech.

These Leftist are ready to scream and yell that you are censoring free speech if you try to curb the flow of profanity in music or film but try to be Pro Conservative views in public they are ready to censor your views from the public discourse.

8 posted on 06/29/2014 1:43:42 AM PDT by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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To: Rummyfan
The conscription of the bureaucracy to torment the ruling party's ideological enemies is Banana Republic 101.

Nonsense. Just do as you are told and keep voting. /s

9 posted on 06/29/2014 1:50:09 AM PDT by Jacquerie (Article V.)
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To: Rummyfan

For a while now I’ve thought Steyn will leave the USA. I’m sure he has the means to do so.


10 posted on 06/29/2014 3:45:03 AM PDT by miss marmelstein (Richard Lives Yet!)
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To: Pontiac

I cannot fathom how this was not a crimninal disclosure. Someone knowingly furnished a confidential list. It did not just happen to go out the door, it went out with the full knowledge it should not have.

A note of caution for these lefties and other such scum who would use my lawful rights to discredit or financially harm me, I guarantee you will not see the fruits of your labor to do so on this planet.


11 posted on 06/29/2014 3:55:29 AM PDT by Mouton (The insurrection laws perpetuate what we have for a government now.)
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To: Pontiac; Candor7

Brian Brown - Defense of Marriage - is a guest on Fox and Friends - Critical point at 3:06 min mark.

He explains that the “cutting room” - the IRS can’t verify who has looked at confidential records.

Think about this in conjunction with Obamacare/ health records.

4:47 Minutes

IRS Scandal - IRS Cutting Room - Agency Reportedly Edits Tax Documents - Fox & Friends

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hrf2w_uY61c

Another thread:

“How can the DOJ conduct an investigation into unlawful aspects of the IRS targeting of specific 501(c)(4) groups, when the DOJ is the initiating body for the illegality they are seeking to investigate ?”

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3173726/posts


12 posted on 06/29/2014 4:19:03 AM PDT by Whenifhow
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To: Mouton

It’s no big deal to the lefties. They’re so used to doing this and getting away with it...they’re so steeped in criminality, that they don’t see what’s wrong with it anymore. It’s not a big deal...it’s a phony scandal to them. You and me, Joe Schmoe, otoh, thinks it’s rotten to core because if we broke the law, we would go to jail before proven guilty unless you have lots of bond money.


13 posted on 06/29/2014 6:40:53 AM PDT by virgil (The evil that men do lives after them)
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To: virgil
You are right about that....to them the ends justify the means and they are not loathe to break a few eggs to make their omelets. Of course they will cry foul were one to employ the same tactics against them.

In response they: deny, obfuscate, generalize, and delay. Admit nothing. They realize they have the media on their side and the public has a 1 second ability to recall and no ability to associate. Hard to overcome, in fact, I believe it has reached the point there is no coming back.

14 posted on 06/29/2014 6:46:41 AM PDT by Mouton (The insurrection laws perpetuate what we have for a government now.)
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To: Rummyfan

Steyn BUMP!


15 posted on 06/29/2014 9:44:38 AM PDT by Gritty (Conscription of the bureaucracy to torment the ruling party's enemies is Banana Republic 101-MkSteyn)
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To: TheOldLady; Rummyfan; Howlin; riley1992; Miss Marple; Dane; sinkspur; steve; kattracks; ...

Mark Steyn ping.

Freepmail me, if you want on or off the Mark Steyn ping list.

Thanks for the ping Slings and Arrows.


16 posted on 06/29/2014 9:55:40 PM PDT by JLS
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To: Rummyfan

And, Ladies and Gentlemen, this gang of glorious enforcers are in the health care business. Income and insurance card, please....

(Can’t wait for IRS employees to start leaking medical records.)


17 posted on 06/29/2014 11:37:05 PM PDT by kingu (Everything starts with slashing the size and scope of the federal government.)
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