At least it was a US flag and not a symbol of America's latest fad: SOCCER!
Posted on 06/27/2014 6:59:10 AM PDT by Colofornian
SALT LAKE CITY — Eight LDS missionaries serving in the Salt Lake City East Mission and their leaders are working with the Forest Service to remove a flagpole that the missionaries cemented to the top of Mount Olympus earlier this week.
Hikers discovered the flagpole with a U.S. Flag and an autographed mission T-shirt on Forest Service lands and alerted rangers. The Forest Service confirmed that posting the flagpole was indeed breaking the law.
“You would need to get a permit to put up a flagpole. In wilderness it wouldn’t be allowed at all,” said Kathy Jo Pollock of Uinta-Wasatch-Cache National Forest.
Jessica Moody, a spokeswoman for The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints said the missionaries were responsible for the placement of the flagpole, and that Salt Lake City East Mission is “looking into this and will address it appropriately.”
Mount Olympus’s wilderness designation means no mechanized equipment or permanent improvements are allowed to be put there, not even patriotic displays or memorials.
The action certainly seems weird.
It never once occurred to me to hall concrete up a mountain to plant a flag, it sure seems like lots of work.
However, at the gate enters, of course .
If the kids were looking for a patriotic project, it’s seems they could have talked to the rangers and asked what they could do.
Did I miss the part about how the rangers knew it was mormonS or do I need more coffee.
That’s funny, they say it but it’s not practiced
So who will maintain the flag?
Who puts it up and takes it down daily, is it lite at night?
It is disrespectful to have placed the flag just to degrade with no attention in the woods.
Yea, hooray for them-eye roll
I think the missionaries were way out of line in pouring the cement.
I also think that if it were Baptist kids doing it you would never have posted the article.
[Nobody can write this article off as an "anti-Mormon" source]
(Well, #1, these weren't "kids" who did it...all of the Lds mishies are adults...and, #2, as far as I can tell, Baptist missionaries aren't showing up in articles for having done something illegal)
>>Fine, put them on your property. They don’t belong in wild areas that you don’t own.
>>Put up whatever crosses or flagpoles you choose.
>>Just put them up on your own land.
>>So I get to run around and put up a flag or a cross just wherever I want?
>>No.
This is why I always get a laugh when FReepers start talking about fighting some big revolution against the government. Big Sister thanks you for your enthusiastic compliance, comrades.
While it could be floating out there somewhere as an article, I also don't see lawsuit articles vs. Baptist missionaries from having sexually abused/raped a 13 yo...leading to a pregnancy...like this one:
Sex abuse lawsuit filed against Mormon church [allegations re: Lds missionary & cover-up]
The law is an ass. I don’t respect most of the laws passed in the last 20 years. Over 50% are utter bullshit and some are downright unlawful themselves.
No LDS jay-walkers to report on or bash today?
Anyone (from any religion) that goes to so much work to fly our great flag, even if for one day, should make you proud to be an American.
Your reply makes no sense, unless you don’t mind a flag that degrades because there is no one to care for it.
If they wanted to place a flag where it could cared for, would be a different issue.
I’m surprised you have no problem leaving the flag in a place that would allow such treatment and disrespect - shame on you.
Well, let's see. Panaxanax posted this late a.m.
And by then, two FR threads had gone up this a.m....They included:
* Oregon school shooting suspect fascinated with guns but was a devoted Mormon, his friends say
* Sex abuse lawsuit filed against Mormon church [allegations re: Lds missionary & cover-up]
Panaxanax' implication referencing "jay-walking"? That serious crimes like murder and 13-year-old repeated rape are on the same level as "jay-walking."
(Seems quite determined to engage in criminal-acts' reductionism for the sake of protecting the Mormon Church).
At least it was a US flag and not a symbol of America's latest fad: SOCCER!
True; but who can POSSIBLY know all of the 'rules' we 'free' Americans are subject to?
#12
The Articles of Faith outline 13 basic points of belief of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.
The Prophet Joseph Smith first wrote them in a letter to John Wentworth, a newspaper editor,
in response to Mr. Wentworth's request to know what members of the Church believed.
They were subsequently published in Church periodicals.
They are now regarded as scripture and included in the Pearl of Great Price.
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THE ARTICLES OF FAITH
OF THE CHURCH OF JESUS CHRIST OF LATTER-DAY SAINTS History of the Church, Vol. 4, pp. 535—541
Joseph Smith |
Are there NONE in Utah that are NOT under Gov't control?
If a flag is flown in the forest, and no one sees it; is it still patriotic?
True; for NO one can beat a CATHOLIC at this sort of thing - unless it's a MORMON!
Sorry...
...just LDS 'scripture'...
Trinity: found in the Book of MORMON ----------- rejected in the Doctrines and Covenants
Now Zeezrom said: Is there more than one God? And he answered, No. (Alma 11:28-29) ...and be arraigned before the bar of Christ the Son, and God the Father, and the Holy Spirit, which is one Eternal God, to be judged according to their works, whether they be good or whether they be evil. (Alma 11:44) ...doctrine of Christ, and the only and true doctrine of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost, which is one God, without end. Amen. (2 Nephi 31:21) ...praises with the choirs above, unto the Father, and unto the Son, and unto the Holy Ghost, which are one God, in a state of happiness which hath no end. (Mormon 7:7) ...power of God; and the Son, because of the flesh; thus becoming the Father and Son--And they are one God, yea, the very Eternal Father of heaven and of earth. And thus the flesh becoming subject to the Spirit, or the Son to the Father, being one God, (Mosiah 15:3-5) ...of Jared, that whoso should possess this land of promise, from that time henceforth and forever, should serve him, the true and only God, or they should be swept off when the fulness of his wrath should come upon them. (Ether 2:8) According to that which was ordained in the midst of the Council of the Eternal God of all other gods before this world was, that should be reserved unto the finishing and the end thereof, when every man shall enter into his eternal presence and into his immortal rest. (Section 121:32) And again, verily I say unto you, if a man marry a wife, and make a covenant with her for time and for all eternity, if that covenant is not by me or by my word, which is my law, and is not sealed by the Holy Spirit of promise, through him whom I have anointed and appointed unto this power, then it is not valid neither of force when they are out of the world, because they are not joined by me, saith the Lord, neither by my word; when they are out of the world it cannot be received there, because the angels and the gods are appointed there, by whom they cannot pass; they cannot, therefore, inherit my glory; for my house is a house of order, saith the Lord God. And again, verily I say unto you, if a man marry a wife by my word, which is my law, and by the new and everlasting covenant, and it is sealed unto them by the Holy Spirit of promise, by him who is anointed, unto whom I have appointed this power and the keys of this priesthood; and it shall be said unto them--Ye shall come forth in the first resurrection; and if it be after the first resurrection, in the next resurrection; and shall inherit thrones, kingdoms, principalities, and powers, dominions, all heights and depths--then shall it be written in the Lamb's Book of Life, that he shall commit no murder whereby to shed innocent blood, and if ye abide in my covenant, and commit no murder whereby to shed innocent blood, it shall be done unto them in all things whatsoever my servant hath put upon them, in time, and through all eternity; and shall be of full force when they are out of the world; and they shall pass by the angels, and the gods, which are set there, to their exaltation and glory in all things, as hath been sealed upon their heads, which glory shall be a fulness and a continuation of the seeds forever and ever. Then shall they be gods, because they have no end; therefore shall they be from everlasting to everlasting, because they continue; then shall they be above all, because all things are subject unto them. Then shall they be gods, because they have all power, and the angels are subject unto them. (Section 132:18-20) Abraham received concubines, and they bore him children; and it was accounted unto him for righteousness, because they were given unto him, and he abode in my law; as Isaac also and Jacob did none other things than that which they were commanded; and because they did none other things than that which they were commanded, they have entered into their exaltation, according to the promises, and sit upon thrones, and are not angels but are gods. (Section 132:37)
"Behold, I am Jesus Christ the Son of God. I created the heavens and the earth, and all things that in them are. I was with the Father from the beginning. I am in the Father, and the Father in me; and in me hath the Father glorified his name." (3 Nephi 9:15)
"And again the Lord called others, and said unto them likewise; and he gave unto them power to baptize. And he said unto them: On this wise shall ye baptize; and there shall be no disputations among you. Verily I say unto you, that whoso repenteth of his sins through your words and desireth to be baptized in my name, on this wise shall ye baptize them--Behold, ye shall go down and stand in the water, and in my name shall ye baptize them. And now behold, these are the words which ye shall say, calling them by name, saying: Having authority given me of Jesus Christ, I baptize you in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost. Amen. And then shall ye immerse them in the water, and come forth again out of the water. And after this manner shall ye baptize in my name; for behold, verily I say unto you, that the Father, and the Son, and the Holy Ghost are one; and I am in the Father, and the Father in me, and the Father and I are one...And thus will the Father bear record of me, and the Holy Ghost will bear record unto him of the Father and me; for the Father, and I, and the Holy Ghost are one." (3 Nephi 11:22-27, 36)
got left off before:
Are there none...
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