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PELOSI WARNS SF BISHOP NOT TO MARCH FOR TRADITIONAL MARRIAGE
Breitbart ^ | 15 Jun 2014 | by WILLIAM BIGELOW

Posted on 06/16/2014 2:27:18 AM PDT by kingattax

In an astonishing challenge to traditional Catholic doctrine, House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi, nominally Catholic, has taken to telling San Francisco Archbishop Salvatore Cordileone that he should not attend the National Organization for Marriage’s June 19 march on the Supreme Court in Washington D.C.

Cordileone is scheduled to be a featured speaker at the event, according to the San Francisco Chronicle, which is consistent with his championing of Proposition 8 in 2008. Cordileone helped raise $1.5 million for the initiative, which intended to ban same-sex marriage in the state. He once said, "The ultimate attack of the evil one is the attack on marriage."

Pelosi, who called the event “venom masquerading as virtue," wrote to Cordileone, "We share our love of the Catholic faith and our city of San Francisco," adding that the event would feature some participants displaying "disdain and hate towards LGBT persons,” and asserting, "If someone is gay and is searching for the Lord and has good will, then who am I to judge him?"

The March for Marriage, which was initiated last year, features thousands of people standing up for "traditional marriage" walking from the U.S Capitol to the Supreme Court. Among the speakers are Mike Huckabee and Rick Santorum

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To: Vaquero

She doesn’t need excommunication.. she needs an exorcism.


21 posted on 06/16/2014 4:33:24 AM PDT by ArtDodger
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To: kingattax

The future we inherit is constructed of small defining moments. The future of the church will be a result of the deciding moment when the SF Bishop gives his answer...which should mention excommunication. If he caves to her, then Pelosi becomes the defacto leader of the church there. When a Catholic seeks council, s/he will turn to Pelosi instead of the church. Wanna’ bet how he handles it?


22 posted on 06/16/2014 4:35:42 AM PDT by ThePatriotsFlag ("There never was a democracy yet that did not commit suicide." - Thomas Jefferson)
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To: kingattax
Arrogance. Nancy is a powerful government figure. She demands that the Church should fall in line with her (Nancy's) teachings and precepts.

Meanwhile, we little people must bow down and pay reverence to Queen Nancy.

How many divisions does the Pope have?

23 posted on 06/16/2014 4:44:01 AM PDT by Senator_Blutarski
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To: NTHockey
Certainly a case can and should be made for latæ excommunication.

Under what canon?

The definition of heresy is EXTREMELY narrow. The one time I can think of that she broached it, she was resoundingly slapped down by multiple bishops...and hasn't repeated that kind of statement since.

The abortion canon requires the person to actually have an abortion or "procure" an abortion (e.g., perform it or pay for it).

Those are the only two that apply to latæ sententiæ excommunications. The ones I cited above require a trial (i.e., ferendæ sententiæ).

Canon 915 definitely applies. But Canon 915 is not the juridical punishment of excommunication (of course, we will leave aside the fact that the Archbishop of Washington won't even go that far, but that's a different issue altogether).

24 posted on 06/16/2014 4:47:51 AM PDT by markomalley (Nothing emboldens the wicked so greatly as the lack of courage on the part of the good -- Leo XIII)
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To: kingattax
"Pelosi, who called the event “venom masquerading as virtue,..."

Pelosi is an expert on "venom masquerading as virtue", because that's what she does all the time.

Now, Pelosi is attacking at least 3 parts of the First Amendment; freedom of speech, freedom of assembly and freedom of religion. Kudos, hat trick for Nancy.

25 posted on 06/16/2014 4:56:41 AM PDT by Jabba the Nutt (You can have a free country or government schools. Choose one.)
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To: kingattax

Looks as though Pelosi is in charge of the SF Catholic hierarchy. She is calling the shots.


26 posted on 06/16/2014 5:06:49 AM PDT by txrefugee
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To: txrefugee
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IRS 501-C3 church tax-exempt status ...
or, as restated in an old proverb ...
The Golden Rule ... "He who has the gold makes the rules" ...


Nancy Pelosi simply THREATENS San Francisco Archbishop Salvatore Cordileone that with a FULL IRS 501-C3 audit ...

as she is PERFECTLY legally entitled to call for.

Nancy Pelopsi knows that she OWNS San Francisco Archbishop Salvatore Cordileone.


For as sincere and well-meaning that they are SO MANY CHRISTIANS are completely ignorant of the POWER that the IRS (Obanma-Pelosi) have over America's Tax-Exempt Christian Churches ...

Unfortunately ... "Legal Denial ... it's not just a River in Egypt" PERFECTLY applies to my sincere (but completely mislead) Christian brothers and sisters



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IRS & Church Marriage vs. "Render Unto Caesar" ...

IRS & Church Marriage vs. "Render Unto Caesar" - (click)



America's Spiritual Revival and Healing - The Obstacle ...

.America's Spiritual Revival and Healing - The Obstacle ... - (click)




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27 posted on 06/16/2014 5:17:34 AM PDT by Patton@Bastogne (.)
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To: kingattax

Lots of discussion on this thread about excommunicating her. I became a Catholic in ‘98 and this is one of the things I see wrong witht the Church. That the do not excommunicate people like this. I do not know if the Church has blinders on or secretly sympathize with those like Pelosi, but they do not seem to realize that - in my opinion - one of the reasons that people leave the Church and other Christians has disdain for the Church - is because people see this and see that the Church does nothing. If the Church cannot defend their beliefs and scripture by getting rid of those who cause disruptions in the rank and file, than what good is the Word?


28 posted on 06/16/2014 5:39:01 AM PDT by 7thson (I've got a seat at the big conference table! I'm gonna paint my logo on it!)
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To: Jabba the Nutt
Now, Pelosi is attacking at least 3 parts of the First Amendment; freedom of speech, freedom of assembly and freedom of religion. Kudos, hat trick for Nancy.

BTTT! And that's in her public life as an elected Representative sworn to defend the Constitution. Impeachable offense.

As regards to her private nominally 'catholic' faith life ...

If she very publicly demonstrates that she is a reprobate ... you must excommunicate!

29 posted on 06/16/2014 5:45:01 AM PDT by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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To: kingattax

Oooooh! Has she drawn a red line yet? Or is that just lipstick on her botoxed face?


30 posted on 06/16/2014 5:48:24 AM PDT by freeangel ( (free speech is only good until someone else doesn't like it)
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To: sr4402

Homosexuals are Christ’s “winnowing fork”,

being used to separate the wheat from the chaff.

What’ll it be, Bishop?


31 posted on 06/16/2014 5:50:16 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: kingattax

You know where the door is, Pelosi.


32 posted on 06/16/2014 5:59:28 AM PDT by jughandle
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To: kingattax

By and large the Catholic Church’s leadership is to the left of Marx. So I would look for them to fold for Nancy, if they were serious they would throw the witch out of the church same with all democrat/fascists


33 posted on 06/16/2014 6:31:07 AM PDT by stockpirate (Only a tidal wave of tyrants blood will return our tree of liberty......)
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To: kingattax

The issue is not excommunication.

The issue is that giving Communion to Pelosi and other pro-aborts IS A MORTAL SIN.

All but about fifteen American bishops are walking around in the state of mortal sin.

The American bishops have been little but saboteurs when it comes to the pro-life movement. The reason is simple: Some are pro-abortion, like Bernardin. Some are blackmailable, because of their personal depravity, like Wuerl. Some are morons, like Dolan and O’Malley. Almost all are Democrats from the cradle.


34 posted on 06/16/2014 7:30:53 AM PDT by Arthur McGowan
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To: markomalley

Excommunication is a dead letter. Calling for it is barking up an empty tree.

The issue is that giving Communion to Pelosi and people like her IS A MORTAL SIN.

The OFFICIAL policy of the USCCB is that this mortal sin is a “legitimate” option for a bishop. (Catholics in Political Life)

http://tinyurl.com/canon915


35 posted on 06/16/2014 7:33:49 AM PDT by Arthur McGowan
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To: 7thson
I became a Catholic in ‘98 and this is one of the things I see wrong with the Church. That the do not excommunicate people like this.

The Mormons are equally guilty in the person of Dingy Harry. By the rules, ol' Harry should have been excommunicated long ago. He's a crook, he's a liar, he uses his office for personal gain, ad nauseum.

36 posted on 06/16/2014 7:59:39 AM PDT by jimt (Fear is the darkroom where negatives are developed.)
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To: markomalley

I’m not a canon lawyer but I think giving public scandal is cause for excommunication. Advocating abortion, in direct opposition to Catholic teaching, is as much a sin as actually having an abortion.


37 posted on 06/16/2014 8:04:33 AM PDT by NTHockey (Rules of engagement #1: Take no prisoners. And to the NSA trolls, FU)
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To: Ronin
Here's my response:

Go Archbishop Cordileon (Heart of the Lion)!

 


38 posted on 06/16/2014 8:06:31 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Vaquero
FYI

Nancy has excommunicated herself from the Catholic Church by supporting abortion, same-sex marriage, etc.

Latae sententiae

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Latae_sententiae

39 posted on 06/16/2014 8:09:03 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Vaquero

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Latae_sententiae


40 posted on 06/16/2014 8:09:12 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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