Posted on 06/10/2014 7:50:56 AM PDT by Kaslin
It's hard to have an honest conversation about gay issues because liberals treat anything other than outright celebration of all things gay as "hate." That doesn't leave people much room to discuss a complicated issue that involves real human beings who often have to deal with a lot of challenges because of their sexual orientation. If you're a compassionate person, you have to feel some sympathy when you talk to people who are closeted because they're afraid that their relatives won't accept them or someone who feels isolated and alone because his sexual orientation makes it impossible for him to have a romantic relationship with 98% of the population. Life is hard for most of us -- and if you know people who are gay, chances are you recognize that it's even harder for them.
Yet and still, you can't deny reality because there may be a few people who don't want to hear it. Sure, you don't want to unnecessarily create pain in people's lives, but ultimately, nothing creates more misery than abandoning common sense because the obvious truth might hurt someone's feelings.
1) You can't change your gender: Have you ever heard of Body Integrity Identity Disorder? Long story short, there are people out there who believe they're "supposed to" have less limbs. Maybe they want to get rid of an arm or a leg. The "problem" these people run into is that surgeons consider it unethical to remove a healthy, functioning body part and refuse to saw off their limbs. Instead, they just refer these people to a psychologist. That seems to make sense, doesn't it?
Yet, when we have people who want to mutilate themselves to "change their sex," we don't treat that as a mental disorder. Instead, we take it seriously. So seriously in fact, we have 9 year olds getting hormone treatments so they can pretend to be another gender.
If a client went to a doctor and said he thought he was a cow, we wouldn't send him to a surgeon to get horns and udders attached. Yet, you can no more change your sex than you can change into a cow. Even if you have a "sex change," your sex hasn't actually changed. A man who mutilates himself to look like a woman, still isn't female. He can't have a child. Very few men are going to knowingly date a man who's surgically mutilated himself to look like a woman. This is a terrible, horrible thing we're doing as a society to these mentally ill people. Instead of getting them the mental help they need, we're catering to their pathology. It's cruel, it's wrong, and a more compassionate society wouldn't wallow so deeply in political correctness that we'd allow people to do this to themselves.
2) Some people do choose to be gay: Most Americans tend to believe that people who are gay either choose it OR are born that way. However, the evidence suggests that there tends to more of a range of sexual behavior for people who are gay. Some people are clearly "born" gay and have always been attracted to the same sex just like most heterosexuals are only interested in contact with the opposite sex. However, there are also people who are more sexually ambiguous and some of them CHOOSE to be gay. If you want to see an actual example of that, here's an excerpt of an interview I did with lesbian talk show host, Tammy Bruce.
John Hawkins: Let me ask a related question to this because I thought this was kind of fascinating because it’s so different from what you often hear. In the book, you were talking about how you came to decide that you wanted to be a lesbian and you pretty much framed it in those terms. It was a choice. You were attracted to men and women and you chose to — you just liked women better — would you say that’s common or….
Tammy Bruce: Well, it’s difficult to say because it’s so politically incorrect to ask these questions. It’s one of the reasons why ‘ and I’ve made that discussion in the epilogue ‘ so that…parents (could allow) their children (to read) at their discretion.
...There is such a variety, at least within the community itself, …about why women identify as lesbians, but even what that means.
There are a number of women who identify as lesbians, some of them, somewhat well-known, have regular liaisons with men. …There are some women in the community that you could get to know…who’ve experienced violence at the hands of men and have turned to women for that reason. There are other women who say that they’ve been gay since they’ve been born and that, of course, is also politically incorrect to question or to ask them how or why they know that.
If that doesn't convince you, then ask yourself why so many "gay" Americans end up with kids?
In the US, around 37% of lesbian, gay, bisexual and transsexual people have a child, about 60% of which are biological.
In other words, there are a lot of "gay" Americans having enough straight sex at some point in their lives to produce a kid. Again, it's clear that there are also people who are "born that way," but there are an awful lot of gay Americans who don't fall into that category.
3) Conversion therapy is a good thing if people want it: Let me say it as clearly as I can: No gay American should be pressured, harassed or involuntarily forced to go to therapy to try to treat their gayness. That sounds more like brainwashing than therapy and it's not something that should be going on in this country.
On the other hand, if someone who's gay WANTS to be treated, why should he be stopped from seeing a therapist? Granted, it would probably be futile for someone who has been attracted to the same sex since birth to try to change his orientation via counseling, but as we've already noted, not everyone is in that boat.
There are plenty of "gay" Americans who also feel some attraction to the opposite sex. What's wrong with letting them get therapy if they want it and think it will make them happier? As a psychology major, I can tell you that I've read numerous old psychology books that matter-of-factly mention therapists successfully treating homosexual patients who then went on to date, marry, and have children. Does that mean it worked for every patient? Of course, not. No treatment works for everyone. But, would it work for some people who want treatment? Apparently, it does.
So, why should this even be a political issue? Because it makes some gay people who don't believe they can change or don't want to change uncomfortable? Because it might mean they have to tell some hopeful relative that, no, that therapy isn't for them? That's certainly not a conversation anyone would want to have, but it's morally wrong to deny therapy to people who might benefit from it because it makes other people uncomfortable.
4) Gay bullies have become commonplace in America: The biggest jerks you will ever run across are people who feel entitled to act like creeps because they believe they're victims. A lot of gay Americans have had bad experiences with people who've treated them poorly because they're gay. It's unfair, it's wrong, and it's something that shouldn't happen.
Unfortunately, a small subset of gay, liberal Americans wear their victimhood as a badge and believe it entitles them to oppress people who haven't hurt them in any way. The whole idea that an unwilling Christian baker or photographer should be forced to bake a cake or take pictures at a gay wedding is fascistic. It's similarly despicable to try to get people fired for opposing gay marriage. The people doing these things aren't victims or crusading for civil rights; they're just run-of-the-mill ***holes who happen to be waving a rainbow flag.
5) Gay scoutmasters would be more likely to molest Boy Scouts: There's a lot of back and forth on whether gay men are more likely to be pedophiles than heterosexuals, but in the end, it really doesn't matter very much when it comes to the Scouts.
Why is that?
Because a teenager in the Boy Scouts shouldn't be spending a lot of alone time out in the woods with someone who could potentially be attracted to him. This is so basic we don't even think about it when teen girls are involved. If a thirty year old, strapping male P.E. teacher took a group of 15 year old cheerleaders out in the woods, their parents would GO INSANE. Incidentally, they'd be right to be upset. Similarly, a gay man has no business being in the woods with a bunch of teenage boys. In fact, if the Boy Scouts ever allowed gay Scoutmasters in their organization, it would kill them as dead as Disco because most parents don't want their child spending a lot of alone time with an adult who could be sexually attracted to him. In fact, that is so obvious it's clear that the people pushing this idea the hardest are primarily concerned with destroying the Boy Scouts, not enabling "gay rights."
It’s always a good thing to have an intelligent adult articulate subject matter so clearly
Truth is politically incorrect so it will be discarded.
It’s like talking about race with libs. An alarm bell immediately goes off in their heads that tells them to shut down the conversation, drown out the other person, quash any contradictory and hence unpleasant thoughts that might get loose in the vacant hallways of their brains.
Tammy is so smart — is she sure she’s gay?
Irrational rhetoric is the hallmark of a lost world. With the current liar-in-chief setting the tone of lie about everything, and play the hate card/race card as a trump to any truth spoken about the liar or his regime, it is not surprising to see the sexual degenerates whose minds are warped using the same methodology.
A breath of common sense ...
We have reached a point in this country, in which you are not allowed to say anything unless it’s unquestionably affirming the homosexual lifestyle. It’s considered hateful to say you oppose homosexual marriage. It’s considered hateful to say you oppose any part of the “LGBT” peoples agenda.
For example, now that don’t ask / don’t tell has been abolished for the military, now some are pushing for allowing trans-gendered in the military.
Some states still don’t allow, or don’t look favorably on homosexual adoption. It’s considered hateful to say that you prefer other than homosexual peoples to adopt children.
The issue of homosexual leaders in the Boy Scouts can’t be rationally discussed.
We’re not allowed to talk about the nature of homosexual activity. A big part of the uproar over Phil Robertson was his frank talk about body parts including the male anus.
The whole area of “LGBT” peoples is a minefield, in which anything other than complete acceptance and affirmation is considered hatred.
AND are perverted deviant and just plain disgustingly sick ... there I said it
#6: Homosexual behavior is deadly and fraught with diseases and psychological problems.
#7: Homosexuals die 1-3 decades before the general population.
#8: Those who encourage homosexuals to practice that behavior are the ones who hate them, since they’re the ones encouraging them to die early. Those who discourage them are the ones who are actually caring for them.
6. They are not “gay”; they are homosexuals.
I completely agree with the author on every point. I’m glad to see thus published.
The truth sounds like hate to those who hate the truth.
7. Homosexuals are mentally ill such that they are criminals. Don’t believe it? What is the first thing people think of when someone is going to prison? Homosexual rape. There are so many homosexuals in prison that homosexual rape is the first thing people think of when they think of prison.
If they're so damn proud of their perversion, then why not use Homosexuals to describe them.
As far as 'hate' is concerned, my reply is simply, "You don't know what hate is. If I hated you, you'd be dead".
Those responses quickly put the kibosh on any further PC whining.
Well written, balanced, fair. The sort of discussion that should be happening and rarely does on either side.
I know a fair number of homosexuals. Some are casual acquaintances, some work acquaintances, some life long friends who can call at 3AM and my only question after “Do you know what &*@!!! time it is!” is “Do we need a shovel to get rid of the evidence.”
Yet most of them, apart from the last group, seem sad. It’s like they are floating down stream with no rudder, and their personal boat is spinning constantly. I don’t know if that describes it well, but it is often how I feel watching them, talking to them, and listening to them. The author seems to feel the same way.
Not just disgusting, but an inherently dangerous sexual practice.
Actually read an article by an Episcopal priest about how some people think certain parts of the body are “dirty,” and that such thinking is wrong.
He was referring to the termination of the digestive system. The problem is that he is wrong.
That part of the body may or may not be “dirty.” That’s just a word, and definitions can vary.
But from a health perspective there is no question that bringing that part of the body into direct contact with mucus membranes, skin penetrations, the respiratory system or the upper part of the digestive system is a very bad idea from a purely medical POV.
Just as mixing our waste disposal system with our water supply system would be a really bad idea.
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