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I posted this as 'news' rather than 'religion' as I am convinced, secular person that I am, that the 'gay thing' is linked to issues that defines us as a nation. The issue is not 'civil rights' as the gay boys claim but the normalization of the profoundly abnormal and what that will do to an already crumbling social order.
1 posted on 06/06/2014 6:39:56 AM PDT by robowombat
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” The practice of his congregation is now to accept openly-gay members and members in openly-gay relationships.”

If they go to Hell, why does the pastor care? As long as they are able to fornicate without guilt, he is happy.
Oh, I’m guessing he doesn’t believe in Hell anymore.
He’s going to need a new Bible too.


2 posted on 06/06/2014 6:46:23 AM PDT by AppyPappy
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In the letter, Cortez describes a sunny day at the beach in August of 2013 when “I realized I no longer believed in the traditional teachings regarding homosexuality.”

Must have been on Black's Beach..................

3 posted on 06/06/2014 6:46:31 AM PDT by Red Badger (Soon there will be another American Civil War. Will make the first one seem like a Tea Party........)
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Southern Baptists poised to join the rest of Big Religion circling the bowl.


4 posted on 06/06/2014 6:46:33 AM PDT by Arm_Bears (Shoot cops that shoot dogs.)
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The choice is clear ..... the sin or the Faith.

Just Christians (On Homosexuality & Christian Identity)

Excerpt:

The Church never can and never will give satisfaction—and the homosexualist knows it, for he knows the words against him are ineradicable—to the declared and impenitent homosexual, the person who, through an act of the vermiculate will, has identified his person with a sin, whether he demands acceptance of his sin through "love," or vindication through identification of his perceived enemies as bigots. Whether he presents himself as an object of love or indignation, what he demands in either case is acceptance not of the person, but of the sin-bound and sin-defined person. He demands the declaration of spiritual authority that there is nothing objectively disordered about this binding of man to sin, and assurance that this monstrous amalgam can indeed enter the kingdom of heaven. This can never happen among Christians until they abandon Christianity, which is at war with every sin, and whose indelible constitution places all perversions of the perfect man at the muzzle of its canons.

5 posted on 06/06/2014 6:47:13 AM PDT by Qiviut (Obama: A Caesar at home & a Chamberlain abroad, dividing the country & uniting the world against us.)
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If the SBC chooses sin, they have lost me and my family.


7 posted on 06/06/2014 6:48:45 AM PDT by Sybeck1 (Vote McDaniel June 24th Mississippi!)
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Exact same tactics the sodomites used to enter secular society.

Much of the responsibility for our slide into open depravity belongs to church leadership.


8 posted on 06/06/2014 6:49:18 AM PDT by ecomcon
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Amen on the normalization.

I could only read about a quarter of the article before I quit.

I don’t identify with the glbtqyzdkvwxyz community any more than I do with the Adulterous and fornicating generation. There is no difference. Sinners justifying sin, and we are ALL guilty.

If one can’t see where this is headed in the next five to ten years, one may very well be surprised by conditions just a little bit down the road.


9 posted on 06/06/2014 6:50:58 AM PDT by wita
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“Many [Traditionalists] are now going to separate.”

Typical weaselly academic-speak. What about “Traditionalists are now going to flee the building, knocking over others in an attempt to escape the consequences of such actions.”


10 posted on 06/06/2014 6:51:55 AM PDT by miss marmelstein (Richard Lives Yet!)
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There is no way that Southern Baptists will condone this.


12 posted on 06/06/2014 6:55:47 AM PDT by kidd
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You wish! I don’t know a Southern Baptist within 500 miles that approves of sodomite marriage!


13 posted on 06/06/2014 6:56:04 AM PDT by 2nd Amendment (Proud member of the 48% . . giver not a taker)
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If this happens, then for me “Christendom” is becoming the problem.


18 posted on 06/06/2014 7:08:52 AM PDT by ThePatriotsFlag ("There never was a democracy yet that did not commit suicide." - Thomas Jefferson)
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If I questioned the traditional teachings regarding adultery, and if my son then confessed that he was in an adulterous relationship and wanted to continue with adultery, would I follow in this person’s footsteps?

Option 1: Avoid conflict with secular society, with my son, with FedGov’s enforcers. I could pretend that my feelings and my son’s choices are more important than scripture, and I would be celebrated by the left.

Option 2: I could accept the idea that the Creator of the universe, the all-powerful and all-knowing God who gave us life, his Son, and the Bible knows what He is doing. I could defer to His judgement on how I should live my life and on what guidance I should provide to my son and to others.

I am firmly convinced that option 1 would be easier and would reduce conflict, which sounds very nice. I am just as firmly convinced that option 2 has the advantage of keeping my life and my son’s life closer to God. I know that I will fall short in many ways on following God’s Word. What I will not do and cannot understand is choosing to encourage my own son or other young people to ignore God.


19 posted on 06/06/2014 7:09:27 AM PDT by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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“Dad, I’m a bank robber.”

“Dad, I’m an adulterer.”

“Dad, I’m a murderer.”

Would any of those confessions cause the man to stop believing in the traditional teachings regarding such sins? Nope. Yet he has decided to disregard the Bible and delude himself that queerness is just a form of “love.”


22 posted on 06/06/2014 7:11:40 AM PDT by CatherineofAragon ((Support Christian white males---the architects of the jewel known as Western Civilization).)
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ping


29 posted on 06/06/2014 7:16:44 AM PDT by Coldwater Creek
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Al Moehler has rubbed me the wrong way in the past, but he is spot on in this message. There is no compromising “third way” on this issue.


32 posted on 06/06/2014 7:19:50 AM PDT by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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We will choose to remain the body of Christ and not cast judgement...In this issue we are able to not cast judgement in our disagreement.”

Ah, yes. Mustn't judge...the very worst sin of all sins on earth, it seems. Perhaps now, the only sin.

35 posted on 06/06/2014 7:23:21 AM PDT by Nea Wood (When people get used to preferential treatment, equal treatment seems like discrimination.-Sowell)
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As a member of a SBC church and the mother of a woman legally married to another woman in DC., I pray my church holds firmly to the Bible. Unlike Cortez, I didn’t change my mind because one of my children has chosen to practice homosexuality in spite of having been raised in the church.
Rather I pray for her repentance daily.
If the SBC caves in to this sin America is truly lost.


41 posted on 06/06/2014 7:27:56 AM PDT by Wiser now (Socialism does not eliminate poverty, it guarantees it.)
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Sick.


46 posted on 06/06/2014 7:41:25 AM PDT by Hostage (ARTICLE V)
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I’m glad you posted it, because religion, or more properly a relationship with the living God by the only means He has given, the Lord Jesus Christ and His sacrifice on our behalf, is not isolated from how the believer lives in society.

True believers are reading/studying the Word of God and learning how to live in this world, which is temporal, by believing what God has said and by obeying Him in the power of the indwelling Holy Spirit—until the day they are taken to their true home in heaven to be with the Lord.

One of the things God has said in His Word is that the Lord Jesus Christ is coming again (to this earth, literally) to judge both Israel and the nations for their rejection of Him and for their unwillingness to repent of their sins so they can be forgiven.

After God pours out His wrath in judgment, Jesus is going to literally set up His kingdom on earth and rule and reign from Jerusalem for 1000 years. Then comes the final judgment of the ungodly before God and their eternal separation from God. They this present earth and heavens will be burnt up. There are other details, but this is the general sequence of events.

So if you know this and you believe it, it is going to affect the way you live NOW. This is the way the apostle Peter put it in 2 Peter 3:7-13:

7 But the present heavens and earth by His word are being reserved for fire, kept for the day of judgment and destruction of ungodly men. ...9 The Lord is not slow about His promise, as some count slowness, but is patient toward you, not wishing for any to perish but for all to come to repentance. 10 But the day of the Lord will come like a thief, in which the heavens will pass away with a roar and the elements will be destroyed with intense heat, and the earth and its works will be burned up.

11 Since all these things are to be destroyed in this way, what sort of people ought you to be in holy conduct and godliness, 12 looking for and hastening the coming of the day of God, on account of which the heavens will be destroyed by burning, and the elements will melt with intense heat! 13 But according to His promise we are looking for new heavens and a new earth, in which righteousness dwells.

So, all ungodliness will, in the end, be recompensed by a holy God, and Romans Chapter 1 is clear enough as to this particular form of ungodliness that is mentioned in the title of this article. Romans 1.


49 posted on 06/06/2014 7:51:52 AM PDT by TurkeyLurkey
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Some churches will choose to follow Christ and others will choose to follow Satan.It has always been this way. Only the defining issue has changed.


51 posted on 06/06/2014 8:08:09 AM PDT by freedomfiter2 (Brutal acts of commission and yawning acts of omission both strengthen the hand of the devil.)
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