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1 posted on 05/30/2014 7:13:14 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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Here’s a reminder of the Valerie Plame case:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2817999/posts


2 posted on 05/30/2014 7:14:29 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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ok, so then, it sounds as if the liberal view is that, the outing of Valerie Plame was a treasonous scandal, because it happened during a Republican presidency.

But, this event happening during a Democrat administration is simply a mistake, which has no major consequences, and which will not be a treasonous scandal.


3 posted on 05/30/2014 7:15:25 AM PDT by Dilbert San Diego (et)
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Kinda like comparing a DC desk jockey to someone who actually works on the ground in a foreign nation?


4 posted on 05/30/2014 7:16:23 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin.)
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It didn't ruin her life. She loved the publicity and benefited. Frankly, always thought Plame was overrated.

This Obama outing has totally ruined this family.

5 posted on 05/30/2014 7:17:27 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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Ah, the swinger couple of DC— when it was she who recommended her leftist husband Wilson be sent to Niger about yellow cake. She couldn’t think of ANYONE else to send..... riiiight. Plame and Wilson have made a career of their corruption.

And folks, she was never undercover except as it applies to all CIA personnel in certain sections. Chief of Station? This was deliberate, and only remains to be seen, by whom? Assuredly we will never know.

The gelded military may have outed a warrior who doesn’t play ball with the one and the islamos who run our intel operations. Or the islamos who run our intel set the military up to out him. It is how one blows a cover. Chop Chop, the King!


6 posted on 05/30/2014 7:18:31 AM PDT by John S Mosby (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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Plame called it “colossally stupid,” but made it clear this is in no way equivalent to what happened to her.

She's right. The station chief was on the ground in a war zone. She and her husband were politicizing her position, and almost everything he ever said was false.

7 posted on 05/30/2014 7:19:04 AM PDT by marron
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Someone needs to tell this ditz that her 15 minutes are up. The REAL “biggest difference” is that she was behind a desk in the US and the agent whose name was “leaked” by the Obama regime is a station chief in the field in a foreign country.


10 posted on 05/30/2014 7:22:05 AM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Obama's smidgens are coming home to roost.)
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She is a politically biased narcissist.


11 posted on 05/30/2014 7:23:56 AM PDT by FreeAtlanta (Liberty or Big Government - you can't have both.)
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And how does she know this was not a retaliatory leak? This is a very vindictive administration.


12 posted on 05/30/2014 7:24:05 AM PDT by stayathomemom (Beware of kittens modifying your posts.)
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I see Miss Plame has a rather high opinion of herself if she thinks her situation was more severe than the outing of the CIA section chief in Afghanistan. You’ve had your fifteen minutes of fame. You were a nobody then and you’re still a nobody now. Go away Miss Plame!


13 posted on 05/30/2014 7:24:25 AM PDT by dowcaet
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Plame was not a covert or field agent. She was a desk jockey. No comparison whatsoever, which is why she immediately sought the spotlight and cameras and ropelines. The Afghanistan CIA station chief is currently in hiding and terrified, as he has any number of people who want him killed.


16 posted on 05/30/2014 7:30:03 AM PDT by montag813
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She’s right—there is a difference: she was a mere spoke, a low-level office drudge/political hack, while the man the White House recently `pants-ed’ in front of the world was a wheel, a real CIA deal.

But not to fear, this shocking negligence will fade away, like all the other WH omissions, thanks to the Democrats’ MSM.
A Republican doing things like this would have been forced to resign by the McCains, McConnells, Cantors and Boehners years ago, meekly tugging their forelocks, to the drumbeat of the alphabit news, weekly mags and TeeVee heads.


18 posted on 05/30/2014 7:32:15 AM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: all armed conservatives)
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Plame’s outing over ten years ago turned into a full-fledged scandal that implicated a number of Bush administration officials

Falsely, erroneously, maliciously "implicated a number of Bush administration officials".

When it came out that Richard Armitage of the State Department had leaked it, leaving Scooter Libby and a number of others to twist in the wind for months, the media didn't even bother to play their equivalent of the "wah wah wahhhhh" trumpet before walking away from the matter.

19 posted on 05/30/2014 7:38:56 AM PDT by jiggyboy
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She's right.

Plame was a non-covert "covert" agent living in DC whose husband Joe Wilson outed her long before Richard Armitage. Scooter Libby had nothing to do with any of it, other than being stupid enough to cooperate with Patrick Sleaze Fitzgerald.

The guy Ubama outed was an actual covert agent stationed on foreign soil.

21 posted on 05/30/2014 7:46:50 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("The more numerous the laws, the more corrupt the government." --Tacitus)
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From the article:

Plame told Wolf Blitzer this week’s embarrassment was “an error of huge proportions with tremendous consequences,” but the difference here is, she said, “my name was intended to be leaked in retaliation against my husband, who was a fierce critic of the Bush administration and the Iraq War.”

No, it wasn't. I can't believe she is still repeating that meme, even after it was proved this is incorrect.

Plame was inadvertantly "out'ed" by Richard Armitrage, in the State Department. He told Robert Novak that she worked for the CIA, because he had seen her name on some material from the agency. However, Armitrage did not know she was a "covert" agent (and had no reason to know). So, he didn't knowingly disclose her covert status, and was not prosecuted.

The Attorney General and the special prosecutor knew this at the outset of the investigation, because Armitrage told them. And they told him to keep quiet, while they continued the "investigation" anyway, and managed to maneuver Scooter Libby into an error that they could portray as intentional.

(For anyone that doesn't know the error: Libby claimed in an FBI interview, and subsequent grand jury testimony, that he first learned about Plame's covert assignment from Dick Cheney, and then subsequently from Tim Russert. Russert countered he didn't tell Libby. This difference in recollection turned into an indictment and conviction for Libby -- not for "outing" Plame, but for "obstructing justice" and perjury).

25 posted on 05/30/2014 7:59:27 AM PDT by justlurking (tagline removed, as demanded by Admin Moderator)
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Speaking of "colossally stupid" Val, how about a "covert" agent appearing on a fashion magazine cover with her equally ridiculous husband ...

And speaking of "false equivalence", that would be you comparing yourself to a truly "covert" agent ...

[W]hat occurred this past week was far worse than anything that happened to Plame. Plame was, after all, serving in an office in Virginia and, while classified, was no secret. By contrast, the CIA station chief whose name was released is in peril every day in Kabul. He is serving on the front lines of a shooting war and the release of his name in this indiscriminate manner may well have compromised his effectiveness if not his safety.

27 posted on 05/30/2014 8:01:43 AM PDT by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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She’s such a liar. Her “outing” was a slip by Armitage, and the ensuing witch hunt proved there was no intent or coordination. Poor Scooter Libby was caught by a perjury trap thrown out there by a special prosector desperate to get ANYTHING, despite knowing all about Armitage in the first week.

And there was nothing to “out” anyway. She openly commuted to her desk job at Langley - kind of hard to be a super-secret spy when anyone who cared to check would clearly see she was with the CIA.


31 posted on 05/30/2014 8:11:49 AM PDT by kevkrom (I'm not an unreasonable man... well, actually, I am. But hear me out anyway.)
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Novak got Valerie’s last name from Wilson’s bio in Who’s Who. But after he used it in his column, the name Valerie Plame became big news in the media and caused quite a storm. On October 1, 2003, after reading a second column by Novak on the case, Armitage, alarmed by the clamor in the press for the name of the leaker who had outed a covert CIA agent, revealed his role to his boss Secretary of State Colin Powell. They took up the matter with State Department lawyer William H. Taft IV, who then spoke with White House counsel Alberto Gonzales, who allegedly told Taft that he did not want to know. But why didn’t Taft or Powell go directly to the President with this important information?

Among the many things that should give a thinking person pause about this whole sad story is that Patrick Fitzgerald knew from the outset who had leaked the information about Wilson’s wife to Bob Novak. It had been Deputy Secretary of State Rich Armitage, who told the Justice Department that he had leaked the information to Novak, but kept what he had done from the White House. Armitage would later admit that he had even earlier told journalist Bob Woodward about Wilson’s wife’s employment. Indeed, on Bob Woodward’s tape of the June 13, 2003, conversation, Armitage can be heard leaking the fact that Wilson’s wife worked at the CIA four separate times.

The Vice President knew that all of this could have been avoided had Secretary Colin Powell done his duty and told the President that he knew who had leaked Plame’s identity to Novak. But he preferred to remain silent, and thus opened the door to two years of a needless and wasteful investigation which distracted the administration, forced innocent staff members to undergo a costly inquisition, and led to the conviction of a loyal and highly competent public servant. Cheney made sure that the public would know the truth and took a parting shot at Colin Powell.

http://www.thenewamerican.com/reviews/opinion/item/10903-the-truth-about-the-valerie-plame-case-finally-emerges


33 posted on 05/30/2014 8:16:31 AM PDT by kcvl
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http://sweetness-light.com/archive/when-and-why-joseph-c-wilson-iv-outed-valerie-plame#.U4id6x_D8iE

http://www.captainsquartersblog.com/mt/archives/007460.php


35 posted on 05/30/2014 8:19:48 AM PDT by smoothsailing
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Colin Powell: Racist Liberal Opportunist

Written on Saturday, January 26, 2013 by Nathaniel Davidson

One of the most disgraceful acts of treachery by professing Republicans was General Colin Powell’s endorsement of Barack Hussein Obama for President—not once but twice. It’s so obvious that he followed a number of other African-Americans in voting on skin color. Of course, he wasn’t as candid as Samuel L. Jackson: “I voted for Barack because he was black. … [Obama’s] message didn’t mean **** to me.”

So Powell has ever since rationalized to the public why he did so. This has degenerated into increasingly shrill and irrational attacks on the Republican Party to which he still claims allegiance. Recently, this has included a bitter tirade to the liberal David Gregory of MSNBC (which Mark Levin calls “MSLSD”). Remember Gregory—the anti-gun zealot who mocked the NRA leader for proposing armed guards in schools, but sends his kids to a school with 11 armed guards?

However, although Powell was once much admired as a Republican military man, his outburst should not have surprised people.

But even worse was the Valerie Plame affair. Plame is the wife of Joe Wilson, a noisy opponent of the war to remove mass-murderer Saddam Hussein, and it was “leaked” to the late columnist Robert Novak that she worked for the CIA. The Demagogue party and the Leftmedia wanted to catch some top Republicans in this “crime”, such as VP Dick Cheney and his assistant Lewis (Scooter) Libby. And the appeasing Republicans appointed a special prosecutor, Patrick Fitzgerald, who went Inspector Javert on Libby.

However, the real “leaker” was Powell’s assistant, Richard Armitage. But “special prosecutions” take on a life of their own, far from the original “crime”, simply so the funding can continue—much like government programs in general. Javert/Fitzgerald, even after belatedly knowing that Armitage was the leaker, was determined to nail Libby for something. This was “perjury”—which in this case meant that Libby didn’t remember what he told a reporter about a crime he didn’t even commit. A blot on President Bush Jr.’s legacy was refusing to pardon Libby—not the first time he was disloyal to his own people.

But the real lack of integrity was Powell’s, because he stayed silent as Fitzgerald made Libby’s life hell for the non-crime that he didn’t even commit. Sam Blumenfeld writes:

“The Vice President knew that all of this could have been avoided had Secretary Colin Powell done his duty and told the President that he knew who had leaked Plame’s identity to Novak. But he preferred to remain silent, and thus opened the door to two years of a needless and wasteful investigation which distracted the administration, forced innocent staff members to undergo a costly inquisition, and led to the conviction of a loyal and highly competent public servant. … Had Powell told the President the truth, there would have been no need for a special prosecutor or grand inquisition.”

http://patriotupdate.com/articles/colin-powell-racist-liberal-opportunist/#yDd4Cx3L62oxGd4p.99

Powell turns on the party that nurtured him

In his tirade to Gregory, Powell claimed:

“There’s also a dark vein of intolerance in some parts of the party. What do I mean by that? What I mean by that is they still sort of look down on minorities.”

Powell also claimed:

“When I see a former governor say that the president is ‘shuckin’ and jivin’That’s a racial-era slave term.”

Powell is stooping low to attack Governor Sarah Palin this way when she hasn’t a racist bone in her body. But it’s typical of leftist demagoguery to call any criticism of Obama “racist”—even when the issue is big spending, class warfare, hatred of Israel, or anti-business rhetoric. Apparently leftists have a magic decoder ring, whereby all these issues are code words for “Obama is black.” I also didn’t notice Powell criticize Democrat Andrew Cuomo, then Attorney General of NY (and now Governor), for saying “You can’t shuck and jive at a press conference” during Obama’s war with Hillary Clinton in the Dem primaries.


36 posted on 05/30/2014 8:19:59 AM PDT by kcvl
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