Posted on 05/24/2014 6:31:09 PM PDT by MacNaughton
This is an excerpt of Dr. Gates' 26 page, 27 minute speech in which he speaks to the membership issue.
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FINALLY, LET ME ADDRESS THE MEMBERSHIP ISSUE, AN ISSUE THAT HAS LEFT US DIVIDED, DISTRACTED AND DEFENSIVE. A YEAR AGO, THIS MEETING SAW A RESPECTFUL AND CIVIL DEBATE OVER MEMBERSHIP POLICY. IN A DEMOCRATIC PROCESS, A STRONG MAJORITY OF THE VOLUNTEER LEADERSHIP OF THIS MOVEMENT FROM ALL ACROSS THE NATION VOTED TO WELCOME GAY YOUTH INTO SCOUTING. IN ALL CANDOR, I WOULD HAVE
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SUPPORTED GOING FURTHER, AS I DID IN OPENING THE WAY FOR GAYS TO SERVE IN CIA AND IN THE MILITARY. THAT SAID, I ACCEPT THE VOTE OF A YEAR AGO, AND I STRONGLY SUPPORT IT. AND, IN ITS IMPLEMENTATION, SCOUTING MUST PROVIDE A WELCOMING AND SAFE ENVIRONMENT FOR GAY YOUTH, A PLACE WHERE THEY CAN BENEFIT FROM SCOUTING AND NOT FACE BULLYING OR DISRESPECT.
BUT, I ALSO BELIEVE STRONGLY THAT WE MUST PUT THIS ISSUE BEHIND US AND MOVE FORWARD, RE-FOCUSING OUR ENERGIES AND OUR PASSION ON MAKING SCOUTING AN EVEN BIGGER, BETTER PROGRAM FOR KIDS. I AM, AS YOU MUST ALREADY KNOW, A HARD-EYED REALIST. GIVEN THE STRONG FEELINGS THE PASSION INVOLVED ON BOTH SIDES OF THIS MATTER, I BELIEVE STRONGLY THAT TO RE-OPEN THE MEMBERSHIP ISSUE OR TRY TO TAKE LAST YEARS DECISION TO THE NEXT STEP WOULD IRREPARABLY
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FRACTURE AND PERHAPS EVEN PROVOKE A FORMAL, PERMANENT SPLIT IN THIS MOVEMENT -- WITH THE HIGH LIKELIHOOD NEITHER SIDE WOULD SUBSEQUENTLY SURVIVE ON ITS OWN. THAT IS JUST A FACT OF LIFE. AND WHO WOULD PAY THE PRICE FOR DESTROYING THE BOY SCOUTS OF AMERICA? MILLIONS OF SCOUTS TODAY AND SCOUTS YET UNBORN. WE MUST ALWAYS PUT THE KIDS AND THEIR INTERESTS FIRST. THUS, DURING MY TIME AS PRESIDENT, I WILL OPPOSE ANY EFFORT TO RE-OPEN THIS ISSUE.
NO ONE CAN FORETELL WHAT MIGHT HAPPEN IN THE FUTURE BUT, NOW AT THIS MOMENT IN OUR HISTORY WE MUST MOVE FORWARD BY FOCUSING ON WHAT UNITES US: OUR BELIEF THAT THE BOY SCOUTS OF AMERICA IS THE FINEST ORGANIZATION IN THE WORLD FOR BUILDING CHARACTER WHILE TEACHING BOYS AND YOUNG MEN TO MEET AND OVERCOME CHALLENGES, TO CHEERFULLY
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SERVE OTHERS, AND TO LIVE LIVES BASED ON THE PRINCIPLES OF THE SCOUT OATH AND LAW.
“I imagine the Roman Catholic Church will not be sending their units over either. TL-USA has a strong orthodox evangelical Christian foundation.”
I guess the parents will decide that; if American Catholics don’t look to their “leaders” for guidance on this don’t be shocked (there is none).
See ElkGroveDan's post #15. He nailed it.
Spot on — Always follow the money to find the truth!!!
Correct.
4/19/2013 - The BSAs National Executive Committee (~23 voting members) unanimously approved and released its membership standards resolution, which proposed removing the restriction denying membership to youth on the basis of sexual orientation alone and maintaining the current membership policy for all adult leaders of the BSA. Under the new proposal, there is a national standard and no local option. The resolution is presented below.
BSA Executive Summary of MAR 2013 Voice of the Scout Survey
Key Findings - excerpts
Attitudes and opinions among Americans related to gay and lesbian relationships have changed rapidly over the past 3 years.
Four experts were consistent in their findings and recommendations
David Finkelhor, Ph.D.
W. Walter Menninger, M.D., psychiatry
Charol Shakeshaft, Ph.D.
Victor Vieth, J.D.
The nearly universal opinion among sexual abuse authorities is that same-sex sexual interest or same-sex sexual experience, either in adults or youth, is NOT a risk factor for sexually abusing children.
In regard to role modeling: Most of the research on the effect on children of associating with self-identified homosexual adults has been done about homosexual parents. The clear conclusion from this research is that there appear to be no effects on childrens adjustment, mental health or sexual orientation.
61% of scouters favored the current policy, 34 % oppose it.
61% of Boy Scout parents supported the current policy, while 50% of Cub Scout parents backed it (45% of Cub Scout parents opposed it).
51% of major donors support the current policy while 33% oppose it. But a majority of Fortune 500 companies want to see the policy changed.
A majority of teens ages 16-18 in the Boy Scouts program oppose the current policy. A percentage was not given.
BSA National also said that parents, teens and the Scouting community "do not favor" the local option as proposed in FEB.
The summary of findings said a policy change would cost the Scouts a minimum of 100,000 to 350,000 (13.5%) members. It is believed any gain in membership because of a change to the membership policy related to youth and adults would be in the range of 10,000 to 20,000 (<1%) youth.
Though not named specifically, the Mormon Church, BSAs largest chartered organization denomination, did not respond.
BSA National contacted 30 national youth-serving, government, foundation, and community organizations (many of which are strategic partners of the BSA), and asked to what extent they support or oppose the current BSA policy:
Twenty-eight want change and oppose the current BSA policy, one is neutral and somewhat opposes the policy, and one wants no change and supports the current policy.
The main concern of the 28 organizations that want the BSA to change is that if the policy remains the same, national organizations cannot support the BSA, making it very difficult for those organizations to work/collaborate with the BSA because of the exclusion of youth and lack of diversity in the BSA.
I’ve seen speculation Gates is a 2-year placeholder to allow time for last year’s difficulties to fade and then place the CEO of AT&T in as the next BSA Chair. This CEO is the main driver for the acceptance of gays in troop leadership positions.
“The BSA National Council Annual Meeting was held at the Gaylord Opryland Resort”
Appropriate!
I do too. I believe him when he says he wants children to openly engage in sodomy without facing disapproval. I believe him when he says he wants men to openly engage in sodomy and serve as mentors to children.
That seems plain enough. Gates will one day beg a mountain to fall on him and hide him from the face of Moshiach. Won’t work. He should invest in some asbestos water skis. He’ll look like a million, skimming across the waves of his final destination resort: The Lake of Fire.
Whether it’s the Scout Oath, the Constitution or the Bible it’s every man’s duty to read them, know them and interpret them as well as protect and defend them. We can never allow self deifying leaders to twist them in ways that render them meaningless, calling evil: good and good: evil.
Amerika will never repent: destruction then must be the fate.
Truer words were never uttered; even the uninformed KY Republicans know this.
After a few years it will be mostly gay boys and leaders and the straight boys will be doing something else. Scouting will go down the drain. It will known as a gay organization within a generation.
Many Freepers agree with you and know the history of the GS-USA. Below is refresher for those coming late to the party.
OCT 1991 GS-USA national stated in a letter:
As a private organization, Girl Scouts of the U.S.A. respects the values and beliefs of each of its members and does not intrude into personal matters. Therefore, there are no membership policies on sexual preference. However, Girl Scouts of the U.S.A. has firm standards relating to the appropriate conduct of adult volunteers and staff. The Girl Scout organization does not condone or permit sexual displays of any sort by its members during Girl Scout activities, nor does it permit the advocacy or promotion of a personal lifestyle or sexual preference. These are private matters for girls and their families to address.
2/09/1993 In Lansing, MI, the GS-USA fired heterosexual employee Brenda Mailand after she refused to sign the following pledge: As an employee of the Michigan Capitol Girl Scout Council, you may not proactively inform members, parents of members, prospective members or parents of prospective members, or members of the general public (including media) of the Councils and GSUSAs position on sexual orientation.
10/23/1993 Delegates at the GS-USA national convention in Minneapolis, MN, voted 1,560 to 375 to allow girls to change their pledge of service to the spiritual power of their conscience - or none at all.
1995 - The American Heritage Girls (AHG), a faith-based Christian Scouting organization, was founded in West Chester, OH. Patti Garibay and other parents who started the movement stated they wanted a, wholesome program for their daughters, as an alternative to the GS-USA which voted to make optional any reference to God in their oath 2 years earlier.
1997 - Nancy Manahans book, On My Honor: Lesbians Reflect on Their Scouting Experiences, was published. On My Honor included an essay titled All I Really Need to Know About Being a Lesbian I Learned at Girl Scout Camp. In a 10/23/2000, National Review Online editorial (http://old.nationalreview.com/23oct00/lopez102300.shtml) entitled The Cookie Crumbles, author Kathryn Jean Lopez wrote that the book was filled with coming-of-age stories sparked by gay encounters in the Girl Scouts. Lopez further reported that staffers contributing stories to the book claim that roughly 1 in 3 of the Girls Scouts paid professional staff is lesbian.
2009 GS-USA radically overhauled its program. Their older youth manuals were re-written to include environmental and feminist doctrines and proclaimed some historical female role models who were communists and/or lesbians. Religion, patriotism, and family life were de-emphasized. Girl Scouts Liberalize Their Program
OCT 2011 - a Colorado GS-USA troop admitted a 7-year-old transgender girl, Bobby Montoya, after initially rejecting the child. The statewide organization released a statement saying, If a child identifies as a girl and the childs family presents her as a girl, Girl Scouts of Colorado welcomes her as a Girl Scout. In this case, an associate delivering our program was not aware of our approach. She contacted her supervisor, who immediately began working with the family to get the child involved and supported in Girl Scouts. We are accelerating our support systems and training so that were better able to serve all girls, families and volunteers.
YouTube - Girl Scouts and Planned Parenthood
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GS-USA CEO Kathy Cloninger confirms the partnership between Girl Scouts and Planned Parenthood.
11/13/2011 - Houston Mayor, Annise Parker (D-TX), 2010 current, and an open lesbian. Her city hosted the GS-USAs annual business meeting in 2011. GS-USA celebrated the 100th anniversary of its founding by Juliette Low with a "Bridge to the Second Century" event on 11/13/2011 at the GS-USA National Convention in Houston and other sites around the country. Parker has vowed that she and her partner of 23 years, Kathy Hubbard, will not wed until homosexual marriage is legal in TX.
6/03/2012 A Catholic News Agency article accused the GS-USA of having filled their National Leadership Team and Board of Directors with unwavering ideologues whose careers, non-profit work and philanthropic choices reflect a hefty commitment to liberal causes same-sex marriage, gay and lesbian rights, abortion rights, comprehensive sex education and girl power feminism. Their liberal ideology drives everything from program materials to themes to partnerships even their view of leadership. Its who they are. And its who the Girl Scouts organization has become. A partial disclosure of its board of directors revealed the following members
GSUSA CEO Anna Maria Chavez collaborated* with Planned Parenthood as head of Girl Scouts of Southwest Texas
GSUSA National President Connie Lindsey donated to the pro-abortion, pro-LGBTQ Chicago Foundation for Women
GSUSA Board Member Barbara Krumsiek is the Board Chair of the Eugene and Agnes E. Meyer Foundation which funds Planned Parenthood of Metropolitan Washington
GSUSA Board Member Monica Gil is a volunteer and former Board Member (through 2011) of the Saban Free Clinic in L.A., which provides free and easy birth control, emergency contraception, and abortion referrals to teens over 12, without parental notice or consent
GSUSA Board Member and Executive Secretary Debra Nakatomi is International Commissioner to the pro-abortion World Association of Girl Guides and Girl Scouts and promoted contraceptives to Asian teens through Californias Get Real program
Laurie Westley, GSUSA Senior Vice President of Public Policy, Advocacy & the Research Institute, previously worked for the National Womens Political Caucus, a group dedicated to electing pro-choice women
Joan Wagnon, the GSUSA Treasurer, Board of Directors, accepted large campaign contributions from late-term abortionist George Tiller while she was Secretary of Kansas Department of Revenue and praised Tillers social conscience and
big heart
Ellen S. Fox, GSUSA Board Member from 2008 through 2011, serves on the Investment Committee of the International Planned Parenthood Federations Board of Directors
Girl Scouts Hire Krista Poehler as Experience Officer
10/07/2013 - GS-USA announced today the appointment of Krista Kokjohn-Poehler as Chief Girl Experience Officer, a newly created position in which she will serve as the chief of girl innovation and be the expert on and organizational voice for girls. She and the entire girl experience team will take insights from marketplace data and collaborate internally and externally to drive program innovation.
Krista Poehler Marries Her Partner
On 11/03/2007, Krista Poehler and Ashley Kokjohn celebrated their love in a commitment ceremony with 150 friends and family members at the Ebell of Los Angeles, CA - LAs most glamorous womens social club which was founded in 1894.
Girl Scouts - Who Is Josh Ackley
12/08/2013 - Joshua Ackley is the front man for a homo punk rock group called The Dead Betties. Wikipedia describes the homo-punk movement as an offshoot of punk
distinguished by its discontent with society in general, and specifically society's disapproval of the gay, bi-sexual, lesbian and transgender communities. He began working for the GS-USA in 2008 at its national HQ in NYC doing external communications. A year later, he began blogging for GS-USA and serving as a national spokesperson. In that capacity, he spoke to the national media. As the primary blogger on the GS-USA website, he wrote about Girl Scout news and provides advice to girls.
Dissension and fiscal woes beset the Girl Scouts
6/23/2013
Just a year after its centennial celebrations, the Girl Scouts of the USA finds itself in a different sort of squeeze. Its interconnected problems include declining membership and revenues, a dearth of volunteers, rifts between leadership and grassroots members, a pension plan with a $347 million deficit, and an uproar over efforts by many local councils to sell venerable summer camps.
YouTube - Who We Are
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2/20/2014 Responding to the national GS-USA cookie boycott sponsored by several pro-life groups, GS-USA CEO Anna Marie Chavez released a video saying the venerable organization was not working with Planned Parenthood or pushing an abortion agenda, despite considerable evidence to the contrary.
Recently, various individuals and organizations announced their intention to boycott GS cookies this year, based on mistaken beliefs about our movement. These same individuals also believe the Girl Scouts has become too political.
We do not now, nor have we ever, had a relationship with Planned Parenthood. Girl Scouts of the USA believes that reproductive issues are deeply private issues best left to families. I find it unsettling that anyone would use the Girl Scout brand to have very adult conversations. A box of Girl Scout cookies is not a political statement.
We are committed to serving God and our country. I hope I have cleared up any misconceptions out there about the nature of the Girl Scout movement and what it means to buy Girl Scout cookies.
BO was living in Indonesia as a Muslim when young American boys start cub scouts. I imagine he has great disdain for scouting because he knows zero about it and probably had zero friends that were scouts. When he did move to USA, he seems to have spent all his time with the choom gang on the beach.
When did BSA, our schools, our churches, every last institution become about youth sex of any orientation? I’m so old, I remember when sex was reserved for adults. Usually married adults, at that. Now we have to worry about a 13 year old’s sexual proclivities?
3/03/2009 POTUS #44 BHO, in his capacity as the Honorary (ceremonial) President of the BSA, received a BSA delegation of 7 scouts in a private meeting in the White House. The delegation spent the week in Washington D.C. touring while it delivered the annual Report to the Nation (2008) to members of Congress.
7/12/2010 A delegation of scouts hand delivered BSAs (2009) Report to the Nation to BSAs Honorary (ceremonial) President, POTUS #44 BHO, in the White House oval office.
7/26 8/04/2010 The 17th National Scout Jamboree (NSJ) was held at Ft. A.P. Hill, VA. POTUS #44 BHO did not attend the 2010 NSJ. He opted instead to speak at political events in NJ, then attend some fundraisers in NY, and then go to NYC to appear on the ABC daytime talk show, The View, on 7/28 which was the date of the main arena show celebration. His appearance on The View was the 1st time in history a sitting POTUS had visited a daytime talk show. POTUS #44 BHO did prepare a video message which was presented at the main arena show on 7/28. Cell phone videos were made of this event and posted on YouTube. Many youth scouts could be heard booing the presidential video expressing disappointment that the POTUS chose The View over the NSJ. Many volunteer scouters who were in attendance blogged that they tried to turn the display of teen-age frustration into a teachable moment about loyalty in a constitutional republic.
YouTube - President Obama Addresses 2010 National Scout Jamboree
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YouTube - obama message booed at the boy scout national jamboree 2010">
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2/07/2011 A delegation of scouts hand delivered BSAs (2010) Report to the Nation to BSAs Honorary (ceremonial) President, POTUS #44 BHO, in the White House oval office.
So it sounds like Gates isn’t opening the way for homosexual adult leaders in the Boy Scouts? Is that what he’s saying?
That's what he's saying (for now...)
the infowarrior
Depending on how the wind blows, he may ...
1. maintain the status quo for 2 years
2. see an opportunity to push forward with full inclusion.
If BSA still excludes openly homosexual adults by MAY 2016, his successor, AT&T CEO Randall Stephenson, will push it through during his 2-year watch.
This idiocy equals the end of Boy Scouts USA. It is only a matter of time. What normal parent would ever send their son into the grasp of these sickos?
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