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Posted on 05/20/2014 3:26:54 PM PDT by cotton1706
It was suggested that one be started so I'll take the lead!
“But tell me where I’m wrong, is he worth sacrificing a majority in 2014, losing our chance to give our conservative senators a voice?”
Yes you are wrong and that’s what a lot of seasoned and wise Freepers on this forum have been trying to point out, not just to you but others lurking who are novices like you.
A GOP Senate does nothing for its conservative members if its leadership is in bed with the same power brokers that control the other party.
The power brokers are those that control lobbying law firms, unions and corporate interests that share in the DC gravy train. These lusters of power will get what they want whether they have to buy it, extort it, step on innocents or murder for it. It’s their arena of power.
Throwing out their attack dogs allows our conservative heros to get a fix on them, and to hunt them. McConnell is one of their attack dogs.
The election is not about ‘R’ and ‘D’. It’s about rulers and the ruled.
If and when that sinks in, then the first wakeup is we have lost KY to the rulers. We’ve lost this cycle in that state no matter what, no matter who wins.
The second wakeup is what do we do about it? The answer is unfortunately to get a democrat in there because that allows conservatives an attack target. With McConnell in there, the loss will endure beyond 2020. With Grimes in there, the loss will endure until 2020 where an opportunity emerges to change the seat to conservatives.
And McConnell will not allow Cruz, Lee, Sasse and Sheldon a voice. So stop thinking that way because it is politically immature.
I know, others know, that it is a hard pill to swallow. It’s an awful feeling to lose and not have help. But it is foolishness to have a hope based on fantasy. Oh if we all just pull the ‘R’ lever for McConnell and WIN!!! Barbara Streisand! It doesn’t work that way, by design. You are a pre-programmed loser. The deck has already been fixed, it’s stacked against you, against us. But you refuse to see it. That’s why you have all these Freepers chomping at your rear end here, because they know how it really works. It doesn’t feel good, it doesn’t taste good, it’s a sh*t sandwich. No one likes it but it is what it is. Looking at the facts and reality is the only hope, not looking at foolish fantasy.
looks like Barr makes the run-off ... vote again next month ... not defeated.
Idaho and Oregon Results are starting to roll in.
I know nothing about the Oregon Gov. candidates. First results in Idaho show incumbent Gov. B. Otter trailing R. Fulcher. Looks like one small precint.
are you really surprised McConnell won? You have posted several times that lead me to believe you are surprised. If you had been paying attention, there was evidence for quite a while that McConnell was going to win. I’m always surprised at surprised people. Yes, it was a closed primary. McConnell has won by 25%, more than the 20% that was predicted. ]
I am not too surprised, but I think that despite the win Mitch may realize soon that his days in office are numbered.
McConnell conveniently votes for Cloture to shut down conservatives like Cruz and Lee, because he knows the dems will pass their bills without resistance and then he McConnell and his lemmings can safely cote ‘no’ and point to their conservative ‘voting record’. It’s a scam and Ted Cruz exposed it last year. Where were you?
You should feel foolish or at least that you are out of your league here.
Wehby is going to take the Oregon Senate.
Oregon Rep Senate Primary
M. Wehby 52.9% 36,037
J. Conger 34.0% 23,160
M. Callahan 7.5% 5,119
J. Perkins 2.9% 1,996
T. Crawley 2.6% 1,802
“Karen Handel is not going to make up 30,000 votes, That would be 7% of all votes cast.
Not going to happen. I am surprised this one has not been called yet.”
This should put an almost closed door to the idea that Sarah Palin is still any kind of endorsement powerhouse on her own anymore. As we’ve seen this year with Katrina Pierson, Steve Lonergan, Elizabeth Benacqusito and now apparently Karen Handel (who also failed with the Palin endorsement the last time she ran for governor), Sarah Palin alone no longer has that Touch Of Gold backing that turns a loser into a winner (and the truth is the legend of such a thing is far more exaggerated than the reality). For all of the women listed above, they had very little support - endorsement or otherwise - from the major funding conservative groups like SCF, Club For Growth, etc. Their biggest “asset” to run for office was literally that Palin endorsement. And it turned up trumps for them.
It seems we’ve at last reached the point where Sarah Palin’s penchant for telling other politicians what they must do - while she declines to seek office herself as a former head of state - is wearing thin. She’s preaching from the sidelines berating others who do go through the rigors of facing an electorate every two or six years, while she heaps nothing but criticism on most of them - from the protected sanctity of the makeup & wardrobe trailer on the set of her latest TV show, airing on a channel nobody ever heard of. Palin needs to either suit up, and get in the game after five years of personal cashing in on her political career that was a half-decade ago and fix the problems she demands others fix. Or she should just shut up and go away. Her recent string of losing endorsements where SHE was the major endorsement power attests to the fact that she’s not the political force she was in 2010 (and no, Plain faithful, Sasse was NOT a Palin operation since he was backed and supported LONG ago by SCF Club For Growth, various TEA Party groups well before Palin weighed in). Attention Governor Palin: get your name on a ballot and get your own hands dirty - or bloody - to help fix the mess we’re in that you keep complaining about, or shut up already. We’ll get behind Ted and Mike - and sometimes even Rand and Marco - they had the guts to run and work (especially Ted). You just sit in your star trailer. And complain. Lame, Sarah. Very, very lame
Otter is now leading a close race in Idaho.
I am calling it for Monica Wehby in Oregon. Jason Conger would need to make up 40,000 votes to pass her.
Oregon Rep Senate Primary
M. Wehby 54.7% 93,819
J. Conger 32.4% 55,601
M. Callahan 7.1% 12,089
J. Perkins 3.0% 5,134
T. Crawley 2.8% 4,779
Incumbent Senate minority leader and he only gets 60% of the vote against a nondescript candidate. Weak.
Looks like Handel is too far back to overtake Kingston. Kingston wins big is Southern GA, Broun and Gingrey do well in their congressional districts, Handel ran strongest in the Atalanta area, Perdue in the rest of the state.
I definitely prefer Kingtson to Perdue. I feel many others won’t agree since Perdue is an “outsider”.
Newsmax endorsement of Kingston
Loudermilk and Barr to a runoff in CD 11 looks certain but half the vote is still out. Loudermilk should be able to shout down the libertarian.
In CD 8 it’s a runoff between Pastor and Radio Host Jody Hice and Mike Collins, son of former Congressman Mac Collins.
In CD 12 GOP frontrunner Rick Allen wins without a runoff. He faces rat Congressman John Barrow. A top takeover opportunity.
In PA Rep. Bill Shuster wins 53% against 2 challengers.
Tom Wolf easily wins the rat nomination for Governor, as excepted, crushing Congresswoman Allyson Schwartz and State Treas. Rob McCord.
Brendan Boyle wins the rat nomination for Schwartz’s safe rat seat over ex-Congresswoman Marjorie Margolies.
In Idaho RINO Rep. Mike Simpson leads big with 10% reporting
Governor Butch Otter leads his 1 serious challenger in the gubernatorial race.
In Oregon unelectable RINO Monica Wehby leads big with 50% in, stupid mail in ballots.
In Arkansas Asa Hutchinson easily wins the nomination for Governor. More votes in the GOP primary than the rat, which is a good sign.
Frontrunner French Hill easily wins the CD-2 nomination
Bruce Westerman beats Tommy Moll in CD-4.
May 20, 2014
N. Mitchell 72.5% 1,803
W. Bryk 27.5% 683
J. Risch (i) 80.3% 13,925
J. Anderson 19.7% 3,418
Idaho Senate Races are set. Hey tea party purist, Is Jim Risch conservative enough for you? Why no daitribes on how he is selling the Republican party down the river?
According to Balltopeid, he is just an “average Republican member of Congress, meaning he will vote with the Republican Party on the majority of bills.”
Hope is not something to rely on.
Look at the recent past, look at what the very same people did when they had the power.
They haven’t changed, they are still controlled by the same nexus of power brokers.
How you can possibly think things will change if they gain power is laughable and pathetic. It shows you are politically foolish, unaware of the political realities in the entrenched network of power players.
You’re too simple-minded, thinking that politics in Washington are about Rs and Ds. It’s about the money and the power those with the money wield.
Real leaders in the Tea Party conservative movement have been pointing out the above for the last 4 years. These leaders are not stupid, they are informed and clear about the reality.
What you are advocating is to surrender to the enemy that will take us and throw us in prison leaving us to starve because the other enemy will slaughter us and bury us in a mass grave. It makes absolutely no sense at all.
Glad to see Schwartz went down in flames. She is insufferable.
Ugh disaster result. Still crossed fingers Byran Smith can win in Idaho giving us something to cheer about.
Barry Loudermilk -- FACEBOOK -- TWITTER -- DONATE Loudermilk has a shot to sneak past opponent Bob Barr or opponent Ed Lindsey to finish in 2nd place and make the run-off. He appears to have more support than fellow conservative Tricia Pridemore, who is likely to finish in 4th place. The district is R+19, so this primary is a big deal.
Unfortunately Wolf is the favorite in the general over Republican Governor Tom Corbett.
Wouldn’t it be nice to see the GOP attack the Democrats as hard as they have attacked the TEA Party in this election?
Regardless, I am glad Schwartz lost.
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