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If I take a train from Dublin to Galway, I have within 20 minutes' walk of either terminus hundreds of bars, restaurants, offices, and other attractions at my disposal. If I take a train from say, Orange County to Phoenix, I have within 20 minutes' walk about 5 freeway overpasses and lots of parking lots.

Most of the US is a suburban hellscape, with anything worth doing at least 20 minutes' drive away. This is largely the result of ridiculous parking minimums (forcing business owners to subsidize private automobile storage) and NIMBYs fighting denser development because of parking concerns (forcing the government - i.e. all of us, to subsidize private automobile storage). The true irony of this is that it doesn't even ease traffic; people spend most of their time driving not through interesting things but.. automobile infrastructure (after all about 70% of LA's surface area is pavement or buildings dedicated to automobiles).
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Most American cities are laid out differently than in Europe (other than older cities in the NE corridor). They are sprawling and spread out. Suburban areas have houses with huge lots. Stores are massive, like Walmart, and have huge parking lots. This makes mass transport within cities impractical. Mass transport only works in places with high population density. Therefore, people might we willing to take a train between nearby cities, like Dallas and Houston or LA and SF, but once they get to their destination, they'd have no way to get anywhere without a car. Alternatives could be taxi (expensive if you have more than a few limited destinations), shared ride van (slow), and car rental (again, rather expensive). Plus the train station itself may be far from your true destination within the city (driving across LA can take hours).

This is why trains are not practical in most US cities for most travelers.

1 posted on 05/09/2014 9:49:39 PM PDT by Cronos
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Why don’t “Progressives” think for themselves?

Why do Marxists constantly strive to limit our freedoms and choices?

What business is it to anyone else what damned transportation I choose?


156 posted on 05/10/2014 5:34:27 AM PDT by Rides_A_Red_Horse (Why do you need a fire extinguisher when you can call the fire department?)
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From the full article:
per capita, the Japanese, the Swiss, the French, the Danes, the Russians, the Austrians, the Ukrainians, the Belarussians and the Belgians all accounted for more than 1,000 passenger-kilometres by rail in 2011;

1,000/365=2.74 km per day. 2.74 km equals 1.74 miles per day.

Since plenty of commuters are going considerably farther than that, there are a WHOLE LOT of of people even in these places not using the train much at all.
158 posted on 05/10/2014 5:43:08 AM PDT by Dr. Sivana ("I'm a Contra" -- President Ronald Reagan)
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Let's take a part of the U.S. with LOTS of trains ... New York City. You are in Brooklyn, you want to go to Queens, ten miles away. You want to take trains. You will have to go to Manhattan and transfer back. Or perhaps both Brooklyn and Queens should be ripped up for elevated trains or subways.

I lived in Chicago with no car for three years. From Hyde Park (U of Chicago) to the Pro Life Action League offices (northwest side, Cicero Ave.) took nearly three hours by public transport. Going to the nearest Montgomery Ward for a Coleco Adam ribbon wasn't much better.
159 posted on 05/10/2014 5:46:52 AM PDT by Dr. Sivana ("I'm a Contra" -- President Ronald Reagan)
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bkmk


160 posted on 05/10/2014 5:52:01 AM PDT by spankalib ("I freed a thousand slaves. I could have freed a thousand more if only they knew they were slaves.")
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Love of personal freedom and independence of travel. In a motor vehicle you leave when you want and distance/speed limitations allowing, arrive when you desire.


164 posted on 05/10/2014 6:16:12 AM PDT by nomad
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brilliant analysis


166 posted on 05/10/2014 6:25:06 AM PDT by Oratam
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I lived in England for 3 years and was really impressed with their public transportation system. It actually worked!

Why?

Each (and every) stop had covered areas to wait for the train or bus.

Each station for the trains was clean and well run.

Each bus stop had maps on the walls along with different colors for different routes...clearly showing what bus to take and where it was going.

All public transportation was very efficient in being on time.

Now, take the American transportation system:

First, you have to have a photographic memory to memorize the routes, times and where they go since NONE of that is posted on the walls of the pick-up points. As a matter of fact most pick-up points are simply a post with a “bus stop” sign on it....nothing else. You have to be born with a complete schedule and city route map in your brain to even suspect where our public transportation will take you...and when!

Second, nothing is ever on time. Our system is 100% unreliable.

Compare England and Europe’s transportation systems and our American system rates a score of F.


169 posted on 05/10/2014 6:39:04 AM PDT by DH (Once the tainted finger of government touches anything the rot begins)
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A few years ago, I looked at AMTRAK from Baltimore to Detroit. For comparison, it was about 2 hours by plane and 9 by car. AMTRAK was 17 hours and the same cost as a plane ticket.


172 posted on 05/10/2014 6:46:01 AM PDT by cyclotic (America's premier outdoor adventure association for boys-traillifeusa.com)
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Any travel to a train station in Chicago, Memphis or New Orleans means taking one’s life into one’s hands. In Memphis one is more likely to be mugged or robbed going to or from the station.
179 posted on 05/10/2014 7:08:40 AM PDT by vetvetdoug
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The reason people here don’t ride trains is that they are not profitable. If they were, there would be passenger tracks next to the freight tracks. The Interstate system shut down most passenger trains. Trains only go on the rails, and not where people want to go.

I had a coworker who went to pick his son up in San Diego after he finished his military training. Took him over three days each way. He had to go through St Louis from Texas to get there. He later said “I wish I’d have driven to get him”.


182 posted on 05/10/2014 7:13:12 AM PDT by Arrowhead1952 (The Second Amendment is NOT about the right to hunt. It IS a right to shoot tyrants.)
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When my son was interning in DC, we took the train from Charlotte up to see him.
It took 10+ hrs Clt to DC. The trip back took 12 hrs.
I can drive it in 6 hrs
Amtrak sucks
186 posted on 05/10/2014 7:20:32 AM PDT by Robe (Rome did not create a great empire by talking, they did it by killing all those who opposed them)
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Why don't Americans ride trains?

My son won the county geography bee when he was in middle school. The prize was a free Amtrak trip to the state finals in Chapel Hill. To get there from our Western NC county via Amtrak required driving to Greenville, SC, catching the train to Washington DC, changing trains and then heading back south to Durham, NC.

Amtrak is geared to benefit the NE Corridor and residents thereof who want to get to south Florida. I suppose the LA to SF and NE Corridor to Chicago get a bit of traffic. Amtrak is useless to Flyover country and too expensive.

Put good high speed buses on an express lane on the Interstates with terminals at major shopping malls and they would dominate the less than 200-250 mile intercity travel. At least until the TSA screwed things up.

189 posted on 05/10/2014 7:25:21 AM PDT by BwanaNdege ( "...[willful] ignorance is the opiate of academic elites." - Mike Adams [BN edit])
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Why don't Americans ride trains?

Because it is cheaper to go some other way. I have checked into train travel a time or two. It has always been even more expensive then going by air. And since, unlike many of the countries mentioned, we own personal cars it is also easier to drive.

195 posted on 05/10/2014 7:41:19 AM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Proud Infidel, Gun Nut, Religious Fanatic and Freedom Fiend)
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Well...cause we have had FREEDOM?


196 posted on 05/10/2014 7:41:29 AM PDT by goodnesswins (R.I.P. Doherty, Smith, Stevens, Woods.)
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This is why trains are not practical in most US cities for most travelers.

Yes!

And our trains no longer go to most towns, as they once did.

The trains themselves are far slower than they once were because, for one thing, the tracks are no longer banked around curves because they are maximized for freight. The infrastructure for passenger rail is gone ... the gov-subsidized hi-speed passenger rail of Europe doesn't run at 200 mph on wooden sleepers!

AMTRAK? As you point out it leaves you high and dry miles short of the destination ... and is damned expensive. Yes, we need our cars. However, the Socialists have determined that the auto is not good for us and see no reason to keep the price of fuel within reason, while they strive to limit production.

203 posted on 05/10/2014 8:00:25 AM PDT by Kenny Bunk (Take congress in 2014. Have a Constitutional Convention of the States. Save the Republic.)
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because trains are inefficient to a society of liberty and private property. (property of ones person, thoughts, mobility)

Trains are pork and crony projects. trains DON NOT reduce congestion or reduce traffic. This article seems a false flag effort to push the US to herd its citizens like cattle into corruption crime.

Trains are about worker drones. This keeps in track with new company starts DROPPING and more companies closing.

The governments that control the trains want only big company employees NOT individuals.

Trains control where you can travel. They limit mobility choice. (property of ones thought and travel)


204 posted on 05/10/2014 8:01:42 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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Actually if you combine regional train travel with local bus service, you can get within a 20 minute walk to just about anywhere within any US city with a population of over 100,000.


205 posted on 05/10/2014 8:10:12 AM PDT by justa-hairyape (The user name is sarcastic. Although at times it may not appear that way.)
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What killed the railroads? The interstate highway system. Whose idea was that?


220 posted on 05/10/2014 9:26:09 AM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas ( Isaiah 22:22, Matthew 16:19, Revelation 3:7)
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For short travel/commutes, trains only work in densely populated areas. That way it is financially feasible to have many stops and available, inexpensive transport to get to a final destination.

Any regular that would have additional expensive transportation to get to a final destination makes it an unlikely choice.

Long distance travel on trains is ruined by the time to get from one large city to another. I considered a trip to Florida a year ago on train, and it was almost a 2 day affair. By plane, it’s a few hours. By my own vehicle, it’s a day and a half and I have my transportation with me.

Cost and convenience seem the bottom line to me.


221 posted on 05/10/2014 9:26:53 AM PDT by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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I know! I know!

Because Americans are selfish and only care about themselves, which is why we need government to make prices "necessarily skyrocket" so they can be forced onto trains!

I'm right, aren't I?

229 posted on 05/10/2014 9:33:39 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("The more numerous the laws, the more corrupt the government." --Tacitus)
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