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Why don't Americans ride trains?
The Economist ^ | 29 Aug 2013 | Economist

Posted on 05/09/2014 9:49:39 PM PDT by Cronos

AMERICA has by far the largest rail network in the world, with more than twice as much track as China. But it lags far behind other first-world countries in ridership. Instead of passengers, most of America's massive rail network is used to carry freight. Why don't Americans ride trains?

..the Japanese, the Swiss, the French, the Danes, the Russians, the Austrians, the Ukrainians, the Belarussians and the Belgians all accounted for more than 1,000 passenger-kilometres by rail in 2011; Americans accounted for 80. Amtrak carries 31m passengers per year. Mozambique's railways carried 108m passengers in 2011.

There are many reasons why Americans don't ride the rails as often as their European cousins. Most obviously, America is bigger than most European countries. Outside the northeast corridor, the central Texas megalopolis, California and the eastern Midwest, density is sometimes too low to support intercity train travel. Underinvestment, and a preference for shiny new visions over boring upgrades, has not helped. Most American passenger trains travel on tracks that are owned by freight companies. That means most trains have to defer to freight services, leading to lengthy delays that scare off passengers who want to arrive on time.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: carsstink; governmentstinks; planesstink; rail; trainsstink; trucksstink
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To: Cronos
Most American cities are laid out differently than in Europe

Being able to rebuild from scratch after we've bombed them to recycled aggregate base does wonders for rail layouts.

81 posted on 05/10/2014 12:05:22 AM PDT by Axenolith (Government blows, and that which governs least, blows least...)
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To: JoeProBono

Bentleys weren’t very affordable back then either. Never mind the Speed Six model being designed as a racing car.


82 posted on 05/10/2014 12:05:39 AM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Cronos

because we are individualists.
we don’t take well to the sheep lifestyle.
europeans may be perfectly happy being shepherded where their leaders want them to go.
that’s not our style.


83 posted on 05/10/2014 12:08:44 AM PDT by Washi (Stop Obama's War On Jobs)
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To: Jim Robinson

Judy Garland - On the Atchison Topeka and the Santa Fe
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84 posted on 05/10/2014 12:09:06 AM PDT by minnesota_bound
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To: Olog-hai

85 posted on 05/10/2014 12:10:29 AM PDT by JoeProBono (SOME IMAGES MAY BE DISTURBING VIEWER DISCRETION IS ADVISED;-{)
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To: JoeProBono

One of the contenders there is hobbled by the federal government.

I don’t recall any TGV version of Le Train Bleu. Wonder why not?


86 posted on 05/10/2014 12:15:25 AM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Washi

For individualists, we seem just fine and dandy with the government taking care of our road infrastructure and taxing us for it.


87 posted on 05/10/2014 12:16:08 AM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: pbmaltzman
HE says that to him, it is both bovine and also aggressive.

Well geez, I feel like I could deal with that, if I felt that way, that is.

88 posted on 05/10/2014 12:16:41 AM PDT by dr_lew
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To: Olog-hai

“Even freight trains hauled by steam locos used to be faster than the freights running today.”

100 mph+ passenger service between major American cities was routine before WWII. Powered by steam locomotives.

But to do this requires a major roadbed investment and today no American railroad has track that can handle speeds like that.


89 posted on 05/10/2014 12:17:28 AM PDT by Pelham (If you do not deport it is amnesty by default.)
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To: Kackikat

Nope, public transportation is impractical in cities such as Chicago and Los Angeles because they are spread out over hundred of square miles. Trains are practicla only in compact cities like in Europe.


90 posted on 05/10/2014 12:19:53 AM PDT by entropy12 (I am sick of people who think Obama is no worse than Romney, as bad as Mitt was.)
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To: Cronos

91 posted on 05/10/2014 12:20:45 AM PDT by Veggie Todd (The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants. TJ)
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To: Pelham

Yes, and federal regulations induces an excessive cost burden on private companies doing that. No private railroad can just pick up a 125-mph lightweight tilting diesel-multiple-unit train from (let’s say) Siemens and run it between city pairs of its choice at the top speed of the vehicle—all because of federal regulation with respect to track classes, track signaling and even “crashworthiness” of the vehicle. Lots of mandates having to do with railroad crossings, automatic train stop systems, signals displayed in the engineer’s cab, dead man’s features, ad nauseam. Even the existence of Amtrak complicates matters.

Private railroads rebuild roadbed all the time, especially to handle increased freight business; if the feds would get out of the way, they could do it with passenger trains too.


92 posted on 05/10/2014 12:22:40 AM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Organic Panic

You radical! : )


93 posted on 05/10/2014 12:24:52 AM PDT by minnesota_bound
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To: Olog-hai

94 posted on 05/10/2014 12:24:58 AM PDT by JoeProBono (SOME IMAGES MAY BE DISTURBING VIEWER DISCRETION IS ADVISED;-{)
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To: Olog-hai
"Private railroads rebuild roadbed all the time, especially to handle increased freight business; if the feds would get out of the way, they could do it with passenger trains too."

Michigan bought NS track from Dearborn to KZoo to give to Amtrak.

95 posted on 05/10/2014 12:26:04 AM PDT by Paladin2
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To: Lmo56

Did you get to squeeze any tits along the way?


96 posted on 05/10/2014 12:26:46 AM PDT by Veggie Todd (The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants. TJ)
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To: Lisbon1940

Free parking made America Great.


97 posted on 05/10/2014 12:29:17 AM PDT by Paladin2
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To: cdcdawg; All

Because they are not Randians?


98 posted on 05/10/2014 12:31:00 AM PDT by gleeaikin
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To: Lmo56

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99 posted on 05/10/2014 12:31:24 AM PDT by Paladin2
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To: Paladin2

Take a look at what Buffett’s railroads are doing. Granted, that’s in the sphere of crony capitalism, but Buffett isn’t asking for “feddy-bucks” for it. Even Union Pacific invests significant amounts of its own capital in the railroads its running.

And like I said, the government really needs to get out of the way. What with the sick state of affairs Detroit faces, the speed upgrade for Chicago-Michigan trains really is a vanity project.


100 posted on 05/10/2014 12:32:20 AM PDT by Olog-hai
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