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Why don't Americans ride trains?
The Economist ^ | 29 Aug 2013 | Economist

Posted on 05/09/2014 9:49:39 PM PDT by Cronos

AMERICA has by far the largest rail network in the world, with more than twice as much track as China. But it lags far behind other first-world countries in ridership. Instead of passengers, most of America's massive rail network is used to carry freight. Why don't Americans ride trains?

..the Japanese, the Swiss, the French, the Danes, the Russians, the Austrians, the Ukrainians, the Belarussians and the Belgians all accounted for more than 1,000 passenger-kilometres by rail in 2011; Americans accounted for 80. Amtrak carries 31m passengers per year. Mozambique's railways carried 108m passengers in 2011.

There are many reasons why Americans don't ride the rails as often as their European cousins. Most obviously, America is bigger than most European countries. Outside the northeast corridor, the central Texas megalopolis, California and the eastern Midwest, density is sometimes too low to support intercity train travel. Underinvestment, and a preference for shiny new visions over boring upgrades, has not helped. Most American passenger trains travel on tracks that are owned by freight companies. That means most trains have to defer to freight services, leading to lengthy delays that scare off passengers who want to arrive on time.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: carsstink; governmentstinks; planesstink; rail; trainsstink; trucksstink
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To: Tanniker Smith

Ain’t the government grand? Used to be a shorter rail route from New York to Atlantic City through the Pine Barrens. They let Conrail (the government-owned freight railroad) abandon that.


21 posted on 05/09/2014 10:04:47 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Paladin2

The infrastructure of roads has come at a tremendous... cost to the taxpayer. Nothing is free.


22 posted on 05/09/2014 10:05:07 PM PDT by Rodamala
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To: Olog-hai

I still want my flying car that Back to the Future said would be here by now! Actually, just gasoline at real market prices would be pretty cool, and just as imaginary.


23 posted on 05/09/2014 10:06:35 PM PDT by cdcdawg (Be seeing you...)
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To: Jim Robinson

I really want to spend three days on a train from SF to PHL at three times the price of a 4 hour air flight. Makes perfect sense to me.

Talk about DUH!!


24 posted on 05/09/2014 10:06:51 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: Cronos

Cars are freedom, and even very poor people in the US can avail themselves of the highway. and they can take their kids and their gear.

I love train rides, but I never want the roads, and cheap used cars, to go away. They are a leg up in the world, not just a means to a destination.


25 posted on 05/09/2014 10:08:10 PM PDT by married21 ( As for me and my house, we will serve the Lord.)
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To: Cronos

Trains are successful in certain corridors with the right distance and shape. Take St Louis to Chicago, for instance, or New York to DC.

Other regions, not so much.


26 posted on 05/09/2014 10:08:17 PM PDT by lurk
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To: Jim Robinson

True...and I also prefer to take the chopper to avoid ground-level traffic. Let’s face it: you have a much better chance of finding a helipad near your destination than a train station.


27 posted on 05/09/2014 10:09:47 PM PDT by Milton Miteybad (I am Jim Thompson. {Really.})
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To: wideawake

Our cities also have something theirs don’t.


28 posted on 05/09/2014 10:10:19 PM PDT by ealgeone (obama, borderof)
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To: Rodamala
"Nothing is free"

No doubt. The Eisenhower Interstates enhanced bidness.

29 posted on 05/09/2014 10:11:04 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: Cronos

30 posted on 05/09/2014 10:13:57 PM PDT by Wyrd bið ful aræd (Pope Calvin the 1st, defacto Leader of the FR Calvinist Protestant Brigades)
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To: Cronos

They stink!


31 posted on 05/09/2014 10:15:34 PM PDT by Texicanus (Texas, it's a whole 'nother country.)
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To: Jim Robinson

“Too expensive, too slow, too remote.”

You forgot it doesn’t go where you want to go.


32 posted on 05/09/2014 10:17:58 PM PDT by dalereed
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To: Cronos
Trains are generally a PITA because of the points mentioned. I also live in a city where several commuters died recently an a stupid train wreck caused by a union engineer texting to his young wanna-be engineer groupies. He missed a signal and plowed into a freight head-on causing many deaths.

So first, I don't ride trains because I don't trust unions to run them safely.

Second, I don't ride trains because they're incredibly expensive for long trips.

Third, I don't ride trains because they're always late and never deliver me where I need to go. And because I don't trust unions.

33 posted on 05/09/2014 10:19:21 PM PDT by Bernard Marx
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To: Cronos

It’s because willie green was taken to the gulag on the last train


34 posted on 05/09/2014 10:19:47 PM PDT by mylife
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To: ealgeone

Bingo.


35 posted on 05/09/2014 10:21:20 PM PDT by Husker24
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To: Jim Robinson

Exactly!


36 posted on 05/09/2014 10:27:49 PM PDT by DoughtyOne
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To: Cronos

The US currently moves 38% of freight by rail vs. 10% in Europe. Take over the freight railroads to move people and there could be a 4x increase of the number of Trucks on the road. I don’t think passenger rail would is the environmental panacea the commies seem to believe.


37 posted on 05/09/2014 10:32:54 PM PDT by sharkhawk (Mr Gorbachev, tear down this wall.)
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To: Jim Robinson

I rode trains as a 14 year old kid going to and from boarding school. They used to wind through the back woods of our nation, a path where you would see things you couldn’t from other vantage points. Talk about a lovely trip from Joplin, Missouri to Siloam Springs, Arkansas. It was about as beautful as you would ever want to see.

I’ve ridden them to Kansas City a few times.

If you have the shekels and the time, it’s a romantic way to travel.

Other than that, no thanks.

Some commuter trains are doing pretty good here in Los Angeles. I’m not sure they’re turning a profit, but it sure gives the local politicos something to brag about.

BTW, the cost of the California Super-Train just went up again. I know, I know, who could have believed it would? /s


38 posted on 05/09/2014 10:33:01 PM PDT by DoughtyOne
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To: Cronos

If it’s too far to drive (time constraints), we fly there and rent a car.


39 posted on 05/09/2014 10:33:44 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: Cronos

The article answers its own question. Why don’t Americans ride trains more? Because the freight trains control most of the track.


40 posted on 05/09/2014 10:37:58 PM PDT by gunsequalfreedom (Conservative is not a label of convenience. It is a guide to your actions.)
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