Feds to schools: You must accept children of undocumented immigrants

CBS News ^ | May 8, 2014 | By REBECCA KAPLAN

[Oldeconomybuyer]

The Justice and Education Departments are teaming up to remind public schools that they are required to provide all children with equal access to education at the elementary and secondary level regardless of their parents' or guardians' citizenship or immigration status.

The "dear colleague," letter to schools providing guidance to schools on their legal obligations comes as the departments say they have "become aware of student enrollment practices that may chill or discourage the participation, or lead to the exclusion, of students."

[wac3rd]

Correct. Coupled with LBJ’s Great Society and JFK’s unionization of public workers, the die was cast for the society to be undermined, forever.

Cloward and Piven were just accelerators on a fire that was started back with Wilson and FDR.

We fought Communism in Korea and Vietnam, all while the other Marxists infested Capitol Hill, Academia and Hollywood/Media.

[kabar]

Quit taking the money and tell them to go screw. It’s the source of their power.

You don't seem to get it. It has nothing to do with federal money. It has to do with the law of the land. Public schools, even without federal money, cannot discriminate against illegal alien children any more than they can on the basis of race. The Feds have jurisdiction, period.

[kabar]

The 1965 Immigration Act: Anatomy of a Disaster

[pfony1]

If a series of Conservative Presidents appointed Conservative justices, some un-American USSC “decisions” could be “re-decided”.

[Pollster1]

All public school students should have to prove legal residence in the school district. As for illegals, with the Obama economy, I expect them to continue deporting themselves. Good riddance. I’m in favor of legal immigration, subject to thoughtful legislation regulating both their numbers and their qualifications, but I have no more tolerance or forgiveness for criminals who break the law to enter our country than for those who break the law to enter my home.

[Orangedog]

Then take your kids out of the schools and starve the system at the local level by defeating school tax initiatives.

[DoughtyOne]

If you look at the numbers post 1965 until 1986, it reveals an immigration that isn’t totally broken as it relates to Mexican, Central, and South American illegals.

In 1986, the bill Reagan signed, provided Amnesty for 3.5 million illegals. Those illegals had traveled here over the prior 30 years. That puts the yearly figure quite low.

The bill Reagan signed provided for tough employer sanctions, and strengthening our border INS services.

The problem is, after that bill was signed, the only thing that was enforced was the amnesty.

Subsequent to the bill, the border wasn’t shored up. Inland enforcement was abandoned. Cities declared themselves Sanctuary cities, and law enforcement suddenly refused to turn in illegals as they had in the past.

When that bill was passed, I thought it was sending the wrong message. We have seen what resulted. It was an open border free-for-all, and that isn’t what Reagan signed into law.

Bush, Clinton, Bush, and now Obama allowed our nation to be occupied by foreign nationals. Mexico has essentially occupied our territory with it’s citizens. California is essentially a Mexican state. The Mexican government and it’s consulates run the show. ID’s are provided there. Now our banks accept them. These people all get US services for free.

It’s a joke. The 1965 act and the 1986 bill did not authorize what is taking place now. Asshole presidents on down have created this mess, and laying it at Reagan’s feet as some people do, reveals a complete lack of understanding of actually took place.

Bush was perhaps the single most idiotic individual in the whole mess, because his dim-witted proposal to grant another Amnesty was alone probably responsible for ten to fifteen million new illegals in country.

After the 1986 bill, we should be smarter than to ever buy off on this again.

We need to stop cold any services to illegal immigrants whatsoever. We should start going after businesses, apartment owners, and anyone else who helps them here.

Local cities and police agencies that do not comply with federal law concerning immigrants should lose their ability to obtain any funds from the federal government.

If this were done, we would see repatriation to their nations of origin. That’s the only reasoned thing to do at this point.

[DoughtyOne]

Evidently they were expecting more then.

It does show yet another way this problem saps money from our nation though.

[punknpuss]

Send the bill to Mexico.

[kabar]

Great idea. Now implement it.

[Amendment10]

The states have never delegated to the feds, via the Constitution, the specific power to define policy for intrastate schools. And with all due respect to the family and supporters of the late President Reagan, he is the Section 8-clueless "conservative" hero president who signed the Equal Access bill into law.

Equal Access Act

(Conservative does not necessarily mean Constitution-respecting.)

And when the feds threaten states with loss of federal funds for those schools who don't comply with the fed's constitutionally indefensible intrastate school policies, remember the following. Justice John Marshall had officially clarified that Congress is prohibited from laying taxes in the name of state power issues, essentially any issue that Congress cannot justify under its constitutional, Article I, Section 8-limited powers.

“Congress is not empowered to tax for those purposes which are within the exclusive province of the States.” —Justice John Marshall, Gibbons v. Ogden, 1824.

So where federal funding for intrastate schools is concerned, the feds are not only wrongly dictating policy for such schools, but are using constitutionally indefensible federal taxes as a basis to threaten loss of funding for those schools which don't comply with such policies.

And all that the corrupt feds want to do in intrastate schools is to indoctrinate children with the socialist agenda.

What a mess! :^(

Are we having fun yet?

[grania]

There's extra money in it

The money part doesn't usually work out, long term. It's not cheap to accomodate a non-integrated population.

It's more like it's extra jobs they care about.

[Orangedog]

Mine went to a private school for all but two years. The only elections I bother to vote in in are the local tax issues, which is always a “No!” vote. In a few weeks my house goes on the market and I’m leaving suburbia. These things aren’t that hard to do. You just have to decide to do them.

[Secret Agent Man]

reply: ok, but we won’t accept the kids of illegal aliens and foreign invaders.

[kabar]

If you look at the numbers post 1965 until 1986, it reveals an immigration that isn’t totally broken as it relates to Mexican, Central, and South American illegals.

Over the years the legal immigration numbers were increased. Bush 41 doubled them to about a million a year.

In 1986, the bill Reagan signed, provided Amnesty for 3.5 million illegals. Those illegals had traveled here over the prior 30 years. That puts the yearly figure quite low. The bill Reagan signed provided for tough employer sanctions, and strengthening our border INS services.

The Simpson-Mazolli bill legalized about 2.7 million. The government estimated that the number would be 1 million. Fraud was rife with phony document mills being set up within blocks of processing centers. In order to be eligible, you had to be here for five years to apply.

The amnesty bill had a impact on our immigrant numbers, but it was legal immigration that had a much greater impact.

When that bill was passed, I thought it was sending the wrong message. We have seen what resulted. It was an open border free-for-all, and that isn’t what Reagan signed into law.

Ed Meese agrees with you. It was Reagan's greatest mistake.

Bush, Clinton, Bush, and now Obama allowed our nation to be occupied by foreign nationals. Mexico has essentially occupied our territory with it’s citizens. California is essentially a Mexican state. The Mexican government and it’s consulates run the show. ID’s are provided there. Now our banks accept them. These people all get US services for free.

There are 60 Mexican consulates in the US. There is even discussion in Mexico to allot two seats in the Mexican legislature to represent these overseas Mexicans who are allowed to vote in Mexican elections. Over 22 billion dollars a year are being sent back to Mexico in the form or remittances. Mexico has a vested interest in Mexican immigration to the US, legal and illegal.

It’s a joke. The 1965 act and the 1986 bill did not authorize what is taking place now. Asshole presidents on down have created this mess, and laying it at Reagan’s feet as some people do, reveals a complete lack of understanding of actually took place.?

When you reward something, you get more of it. In the grand scheme of things, the Immigration Act of 1965 has had a far more devastating impact on this country. It changed our demography forever. It will make the Dems the permanent majority party. And it will turn this country into a Third World country eventually. You can't unring a bell.

Bush was perhaps the single most idiotic individual in the whole mess, because his dim-witted proposal to grant another Amnesty was alone probably responsible for ten to fifteen million new illegals in country.

Bush 43 was bad, but I would blame Bush 41 even more for the doubling of legal immigration. Over 29 million LEGAL IMMIGRANTS have entered the US since 1990. In 1970 one in 21 was foreign born; today it is one in 8, the highest in more than 90 years; and within a decade it will be one in 7, the highest in our history.

After the 1986 bill, we should be smarter than to ever buy off on this again.

Special interests are driving our immigration policy. The Chamber of Commerce wants more foreign workers to depress wages further and increase profits. The Dems want future Dem voters to make them the permanent majority party. Religious groups want more immigrants to fill their pews. Unions want more members. Ethnic groups want more political power. There is a huge amount of money behind this effort. The GOP views amnesty as a bargaining chip to get what their corporate paymasters really want, i.e., a doubling of the guest worker programs.

We need to stop cold any services to illegal immigrants whatsoever. We should start going after businesses, apartment owners, and anyone else who helps them here.

Try doing that and the federal government will be all over you like white on rice.

Local cities and police agencies that do not comply with federal law concerning immigrants should lose their ability to obtain any funds from the federal government.

LOL. Do you believe the Obama administration or Hillary will do that? We just had a backdoor amnesty by Obama for the Dreamers. Up to 1.8 million are eligible with over 500,000 already legalized complete with SSNs and work permits. Obama should be impeached for that alone. So what does the GOP do, introduce its own version of a Dreamer amnesty sponsored by Cantor. Insane. But no one is holding these people accountable. The American worker has been abandoned by both parties.

[kabar]

My daughter went to private school. I always vote no on local tax issues including for the schools. Yet these funding initiatives pass two to one. We are outnumbered and out voted.

[sheana]

They just send em all to the local county health department and the taxpayers pay for those too.

[Orangedog]

Then it’s probably time to call a realtor. That’s where I am. When shopping for a home, it’s not a bad idea to cruise by the local high school. If it has a palatial football stadium, you might want to look elsewhere.

[CodeToad]

This zero defying the law again.

[kabar]

It may be time to start looking at a different country.