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To: kabar

If you look at the numbers post 1965 until 1986, it reveals an immigration that isn’t totally broken as it relates to Mexican, Central, and South American illegals.

In 1986, the bill Reagan signed, provided Amnesty for 3.5 million illegals. Those illegals had traveled here over the prior 30 years. That puts the yearly figure quite low.

The bill Reagan signed provided for tough employer sanctions, and strengthening our border INS services.

The problem is, after that bill was signed, the only thing that was enforced was the amnesty.

Subsequent to the bill, the border wasn’t shored up. Inland enforcement was abandoned. Cities declared themselves Sanctuary cities, and law enforcement suddenly refused to turn in illegals as they had in the past.

When that bill was passed, I thought it was sending the wrong message. We have seen what resulted. It was an open border free-for-all, and that isn’t what Reagan signed into law.

Bush, Clinton, Bush, and now Obama allowed our nation to be occupied by foreign nationals. Mexico has essentially occupied our territory with it’s citizens. California is essentially a Mexican state. The Mexican government and it’s consulates run the show. ID’s are provided there. Now our banks accept them. These people all get US services for free.

It’s a joke. The 1965 act and the 1986 bill did not authorize what is taking place now. Asshole presidents on down have created this mess, and laying it at Reagan’s feet as some people do, reveals a complete lack of understanding of actually took place.

Bush was perhaps the single most idiotic individual in the whole mess, because his dim-witted proposal to grant another Amnesty was alone probably responsible for ten to fifteen million new illegals in country.

After the 1986 bill, we should be smarter than to ever buy off on this again.

We need to stop cold any services to illegal immigrants whatsoever. We should start going after businesses, apartment owners, and anyone else who helps them here.

Local cities and police agencies that do not comply with federal law concerning immigrants should lose their ability to obtain any funds from the federal government.

If this were done, we would see repatriation to their nations of origin. That’s the only reasoned thing to do at this point.


47 posted on 05/08/2014 10:23:51 AM PDT by DoughtyOne
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To: DoughtyOne
If you look at the numbers post 1965 until 1986, it reveals an immigration that isn’t totally broken as it relates to Mexican, Central, and South American illegals.

Over the years the legal immigration numbers were increased. Bush 41 doubled them to about a million a year.

In 1986, the bill Reagan signed, provided Amnesty for 3.5 million illegals. Those illegals had traveled here over the prior 30 years. That puts the yearly figure quite low. The bill Reagan signed provided for tough employer sanctions, and strengthening our border INS services.

The Simpson-Mazolli bill legalized about 2.7 million. The government estimated that the number would be 1 million. Fraud was rife with phony document mills being set up within blocks of processing centers. In order to be eligible, you had to be here for five years to apply.

The amnesty bill had a impact on our immigrant numbers, but it was legal immigration that had a much greater impact.

When that bill was passed, I thought it was sending the wrong message. We have seen what resulted. It was an open border free-for-all, and that isn’t what Reagan signed into law.

Ed Meese agrees with you. It was Reagan's greatest mistake.

Bush, Clinton, Bush, and now Obama allowed our nation to be occupied by foreign nationals. Mexico has essentially occupied our territory with it’s citizens. California is essentially a Mexican state. The Mexican government and it’s consulates run the show. ID’s are provided there. Now our banks accept them. These people all get US services for free.

There are 60 Mexican consulates in the US. There is even discussion in Mexico to allot two seats in the Mexican legislature to represent these overseas Mexicans who are allowed to vote in Mexican elections. Over 22 billion dollars a year are being sent back to Mexico in the form or remittances. Mexico has a vested interest in Mexican immigration to the US, legal and illegal.

It’s a joke. The 1965 act and the 1986 bill did not authorize what is taking place now. Asshole presidents on down have created this mess, and laying it at Reagan’s feet as some people do, reveals a complete lack of understanding of actually took place.?

When you reward something, you get more of it. In the grand scheme of things, the Immigration Act of 1965 has had a far more devastating impact on this country. It changed our demography forever. It will make the Dems the permanent majority party. And it will turn this country into a Third World country eventually. You can't unring a bell.

Bush was perhaps the single most idiotic individual in the whole mess, because his dim-witted proposal to grant another Amnesty was alone probably responsible for ten to fifteen million new illegals in country.

Bush 43 was bad, but I would blame Bush 41 even more for the doubling of legal immigration. Over 29 million LEGAL IMMIGRANTS have entered the US since 1990. In 1970 one in 21 was foreign born; today it is one in 8, the highest in more than 90 years; and within a decade it will be one in 7, the highest in our history.

After the 1986 bill, we should be smarter than to ever buy off on this again.

Special interests are driving our immigration policy. The Chamber of Commerce wants more foreign workers to depress wages further and increase profits. The Dems want future Dem voters to make them the permanent majority party. Religious groups want more immigrants to fill their pews. Unions want more members. Ethnic groups want more political power. There is a huge amount of money behind this effort. The GOP views amnesty as a bargaining chip to get what their corporate paymasters really want, i.e., a doubling of the guest worker programs.

We need to stop cold any services to illegal immigrants whatsoever. We should start going after businesses, apartment owners, and anyone else who helps them here.

Try doing that and the federal government will be all over you like white on rice.

Local cities and police agencies that do not comply with federal law concerning immigrants should lose their ability to obtain any funds from the federal government.

LOL. Do you believe the Obama administration or Hillary will do that? We just had a backdoor amnesty by Obama for the Dreamers. Up to 1.8 million are eligible with over 500,000 already legalized complete with SSNs and work permits. Obama should be impeached for that alone. So what does the GOP do, introduce its own version of a Dreamer amnesty sponsored by Cantor. Insane. But no one is holding these people accountable. The American worker has been abandoned by both parties.

55 posted on 05/08/2014 11:07:12 AM PDT by kabar
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