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“I had no Idea how bad Islam was until I dated a Muslim…”
Pamela Geller ^ | 5/7/14 | Pamela Geller

Posted on 05/07/2014 4:46:31 PM PDT by Nachum

I receive a lot of mail. The most heartbreaking letters, of course, are from Muslims in Muslim countries who have left Islam or question Islam, and their intellectual freedom is met with violence from family members and friends. They write to cry for help. I get a few of those emails a week, and I help each one to the best I can. Notice how they aren’t writing CAIR for help.

I owe a debt of gratitude to Ali Sina for helping me handle the most difficult and gruesome of those letters. In a number of instances, Ali has gotten a number of these victims who have written to me out of their countries and to safe harbor.

This email is of a different nature. The journey of this young woman, whose name I have changed for obvious reasons, is all too common, but little told. It is difficult to break free from the institutionalized thinking, reinforced in every corner of the our culture, concerning Islam. Those who challenge the propagandist narrative are smeared and libeled. Few take the risk.

I salute this “escapee.” Her note to me is a declaration of freedom and an invitation to others to question their premise and not be afraid to think.

Hello Pamela Geller, I recently came across your website thanks to Ali Sina who has mentioned you a couple of times on his blog. My story is on his blog under “I was in a relationship with a Muslim”. I have been watching a lot of your interviews and your debates with Muslims and I have learned so much from you and Ali Sina. When I hear you speak about the dangers of Islam, I sometimes fear for your life because I know how aggressive Muslims can be. I dated one

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KEYWORDS: bad; dated; islam; muslim; religionofmurder; religionofpeace; religionofrape; rop
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1 posted on 05/07/2014 4:46:31 PM PDT by Nachum
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To: left that other site

moozlim P1NG


2 posted on 05/07/2014 4:47:33 PM PDT by kingattax (America needs more real Americans.)
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To: Nachum
"I had no Idea how bad Islam was until I dated a Muslim…”

That's 'cause you're stupid.

3 posted on 05/07/2014 4:50:32 PM PDT by Steely Tom (How do you feel about robbing Peter's robot?)
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To: Nachum

Speaking from personal experiece as a woman......I find them repulsive.


4 posted on 05/07/2014 4:54:21 PM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear (Great vid by ShorelineMike! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOZjJk6nbD4&feature=plcp)
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To: Steely Tom

“message to self, do not date muslims”


5 posted on 05/07/2014 4:55:08 PM PDT by dontreadthis
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To: Steely Tom

I did not know lions liked to eat Zebra, said the cow.


6 posted on 05/07/2014 4:56:57 PM PDT by lavaroise (A well regulated gun being necessary to the state, the rights of the militia shall not be infringed)
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To: Steely Tom

More likely she was lied to. Here parents, teachers, professors, president, etc. all so desparate to show tolerence were perfectly willing to sacrifice her life for their ideology. They clipped her wings before pushing her out of the nest. You don’t have to be stupid to learn hard lessons.


7 posted on 05/07/2014 4:57:47 PM PDT by RightOnTheBorder
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To: RushIsMyTeddyBear

I do not understand what does not register with some women in being attracted to anything muslim. I could understand a shallow latino macho boy cutes to an extent, but sour milk face muslims? Wtf.


8 posted on 05/07/2014 4:58:57 PM PDT by lavaroise (A well regulated gun being necessary to the state, the rights of the militia shall not be infringed)
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To: Steely Tom

She’s not stupid and we need to stop condemning those who see the light. That will only push them back.

Our children are faced with daily doses of propaganda about Islam in every facet. Unless a child is fortunate enough to have a thinking parent the child is lost. That doesn’t make the child stupid, it makes them ignorant and needful of true salvation.


9 posted on 05/07/2014 5:03:01 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Steely Tom

I think ignorant is called for, but stupid is a little cruel. I have the absolutely lowest opinion of Muslims who remain Muslims. I view them as evil, base, violent, and as serial, unrepentant liars. I do not and cannot trust them. Not until they condemn their slavery to Satan/Allah.

But I worked with them for eight years and studied them for over 25 years.

In the US, they teach the opposite about Islam as they do in all western countries.

Well, if no one teaches young people what is evil, the chance that someone will get invloved with it is pretty high.

I am happy that this girl seems to have learned a lesson and that she will likely help others avoid a similar fate.


10 posted on 05/07/2014 5:04:34 PM PDT by the anti-mahdi
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To: lavaroise

We’re talking about American women here...
Who do they vote for?
Just sayin...


11 posted on 05/07/2014 5:04:49 PM PDT by polymuser
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To: lavaroise

Because devout Muslims are seen as true to their faith. They have ‘morals’ and discipline.

Western men have failed miserably in being strong and living their faith, if they have any faith. Unless a woman realizes the truth of how violent they are she will buy it.

I’ve had this discussion with women in the office.


12 posted on 05/07/2014 5:05:49 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: driftdiver

Every woman i know who got involved with a Muslim was a liberal.

I say Let ‘em crash.


13 posted on 05/07/2014 5:06:16 PM PDT by AppyPappy
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To: Nachum

Here’s our comparison of Islam vs. Christianity:

http://www.faithfacts.org/world-religions-and-theology/christianity-vs.-islam


14 posted on 05/07/2014 5:08:08 PM PDT by grumpa
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To: Nachum
I realized that Islam created people who are ignorant, dependent and selfish. I started to slowly realize that I was dating a massive manipulator. His logic made no sense to me. I couldn’t question Muhammad or Allah, and when I did, he would go ballistic.

At times he was very sweet and kind but I felt like Islam limited his mind. He was afraid to make his own choices. Everything was a sin. I use to believe women who covered themselves were very committed and loving to their religion and happy. Many of the things you have said really has helped me move on. You have convinced me to the point in which I truly believe Islam IS a cult. I use to be naive and defend Islam because of all the “Stereotype”.

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15 posted on 05/07/2014 5:09:07 PM PDT by Popman ("Resistance to Tyrants is Obedience to God" - Thomas Jefferson)
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To: lavaroise
Arab men treat women like gold while they are dating them. I never dated a Muslim, but the Arab Christians I have know are just about as bad.

Once you marry them, everything changes. No deal with an Arab is ever final, ever.

I was not dumb enough to marry one. For the record.

16 posted on 05/07/2014 5:10:03 PM PDT by defconw (Well now what?)
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To: Nachum

The Lord’s Work. And I don’t say this lightly...in fact, I’ve never said (or written) this.

Even so, until WESTERN MEN can get to the point of understanding what attracts Western women to Muslim men, they will NEVER be able to deal with the problem.

To put it simply, women, all women, want REAL MEN, not the Metrosexual types that seem to pop out from everyone I work with, except me (my kids know how to use a gun, and more).

Until we start raising kids PROPERLY, we will continue to see our young women, some really good-looking, wind up with Muslim men. Watch the movie “Not Without My Daughter” and you’ll get the point.


17 posted on 05/07/2014 5:12:38 PM PDT by BobL
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To: Popman

The grammar in that letter was appalling, and yet she is doing a college degree? Do they let any yahoo in to study for a degree these days?


18 posted on 05/07/2014 5:18:21 PM PDT by sinsofsolarempirefan
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To: Nachum
A short excerpt from the letter sent to Pamela:And that is why there will N.E.V.E.R. be peace in the Mideast until Jesus returns.

Give it up John F'n Skerry.

19 posted on 05/07/2014 5:18:23 PM PDT by upchuck (Support ABLE, the Anybody But Lindsey Effort. Yes, we are the ABLE!!)
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To: lavaroise

From personal observation

He considers her a heck of a trophy if he can marry her, more so if he can convert her. It is like the black kids who want to seduce a blonde girl for bragging rights, but the domination is permanent.
End result - he lays on the charm and promises thickly. He seems like the nicest, most considerate guy out of the bunch.

Modern men too often come across as eager for a one night stand, make a baby and leave her or otherwise fail to commit. There are girls attracted to a man who says I will marry you for life, I want you to be a stay at home mom with three kids.The feminists drove the American man who wants a stay at home wife into the corner, calling him a domineering patriarchy evil */?!
End result - girls who want the old fashioned marriage model think they have to marry a foreigner. What she doesn’t realize is the freedom and humanity she will lose.

She thinks he’s here to escape that bad life and liberalize. She doesn’t understand that he’ll probably become more conservative when they have kids, especially under pressure by family to make sure the grandkids in America are true Muslims.
The guy who is secularized in college may become more radical than his siblings in Lahore or Dubai in order to retain his identity as a Muslim head of household.
End result - marriage and kids makes him the opposite of what attracted her to him.


20 posted on 05/07/2014 5:19:38 PM PDT by tbw2
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