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A Lethal Injection of Reality
Townhall.com ^ | May 7, 2014 | Jacob Sullum

Posted on 05/07/2014 12:59:55 PM PDT by Kaslin

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Who cares how he died, he's dead. Wasn't that the purpose of the sentence?
1 posted on 05/07/2014 12:59:55 PM PDT by Kaslin
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The procedure, designed to resemble a medical treatment -- albeit one with an involuntary patient and a very low probability of recovery -- had begun to look uncomfortably like the cold-blooded killing of a helpless person.

The Left is calling for an end to all executions until officials can show that no more will be botched.

There isn't the same drama from the Left when an abortion is botched as a licensed clinic and the woman is injured/killed or the baby born alive, crying, and then killed.

2 posted on 05/07/2014 1:02:08 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (The new witchhunt: "Do you NOW, . . . or have you EVER , . . supported traditional marriage?")
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To: Kaslin
The point is not to make condemned murderers comfortable; the point is to make us comfortable.

Yep. And since we're no longer comfortable with it (and it's not very likely we'll get comfortable again with the old methods) the Left is on the verge of getting what they want.

I think the death penalty will be gone within a decade. Or at least a moot point. It may be on the books, but no one will ever enforce it.


3 posted on 05/07/2014 1:03:37 PM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Kaslin

Gee...he suffered....excellent. Justice gone right!!


4 posted on 05/07/2014 1:04:17 PM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: Kaslin

I have had surgery a few times and the Dr. can put you to sleep so gently that you don’t even know it is happening. You wake up in recovery a few hours later and haven’t a clue as to what transpired. What kind of sub-saharan animal practitioners are they using in the prison system these days? Are these the “Obamacare in Training” sawbones or just Jamaican medical School dropouts?


5 posted on 05/07/2014 1:06:08 PM PDT by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannoli. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: Sacajaweau

Not nearly as much suffering as the victims. And he got to live a whole lot longer.


6 posted on 05/07/2014 1:07:19 PM PDT by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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To: a fool in paradise

Excellent point.


7 posted on 05/07/2014 1:07:44 PM PDT by Fledermaus (Conseravtives are all that's left to defend the Constitution. Dems hate it, and Repubs don't care.)
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To: Kaslin

Yeah, who cares? Personally I want them to suffer as much as possible!


8 posted on 05/07/2014 1:08:15 PM PDT by Fledermaus (Conseravtives are all that's left to defend the Constitution. Dems hate it, and Repubs don't care.)
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To: Kaslin

the problem is, the 8th amendment proscribes cruel and unusual punishment. exection by heart attack certainly qualifies as unusual, and cruel IMHO


9 posted on 05/07/2014 1:09:33 PM PDT by ghost of stonewall jackson
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Jacob Sullum can suck it. He wasted all this time and energy mourning the loss of a scum-bag killer. What about the sweet victims he killed here?

Besides - Scum-bag screwed up his own death. Botched? If so - it was scumbags fault. Read if you will what scumbag did that morning as he cut his own arm to open a vein, had blood loss and also had to be tazed.


10 posted on 05/07/2014 1:10:37 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: Kaslin

Injection was chosen to protect the delicate sensibilities of the witnesses, not out of empathy for the person being executed.
The firing squad works very well.


11 posted on 05/07/2014 1:11:20 PM PDT by I want the USA back (Media: completely irresponsible. Complicit in the destruction of this country.)
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I’m in favor of a life sentence.

Life in front of a firing squad.


12 posted on 05/07/2014 1:12:15 PM PDT by Gamecock (The covenant is a stunning blend of law and love. (TK))
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To: Don Corleone

the are indeed having a hard time finding qualified medical professionals willing to assist with executions. per the article:

“The same is true of “physician-assisted execution,” with the added complication that most people with medical expertise do not want to assist executions because they view their proper function as saving people’s lives rather than killing them.”


13 posted on 05/07/2014 1:12:34 PM PDT by ghost of stonewall jackson
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“The point is not to make condemned murderers comfortable; the point is to make us comfortable. “

Yep. Politicians have become too removed from death. If they want to kill a con quickly and painlessly, just put them in an airtight room and pump in pure carbon monoxide. They will be unconscious in a few minutes and dead shortly after.


14 posted on 05/07/2014 1:15:18 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Haven't you lost enough freedoms? Support an end to the WOD now.)
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To: Kaslin

I prefer hanging or a firing squad for convicted murderers. The only reason injection exists is that some elites are a bit squeamish about executing convicted murderers.


15 posted on 05/07/2014 1:15:28 PM PDT by TheDon (Californians are losing their right to keep and bear firearms one firearm at a time.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

politicians may fear that resembles the Nazi method too closely...


16 posted on 05/07/2014 1:16:10 PM PDT by ghost of stonewall jackson
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To: ghost of stonewall jackson

Another point worth noting here is that drug manufactures are now withholding the correct medications and drugs necessary to perform a humane execution. They refuse to ship to states like Oklahoma where they are used to execute these scumbags.

So. These bleeding hearts wanna blame somebody for a “botched” execution? They can look in the mirror.


17 posted on 05/07/2014 1:17:52 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: Don Corleone

The vein blew. Happens all the time.


18 posted on 05/07/2014 1:18:01 PM PDT by Coldwater Creek
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To: Responsibility2nd

some would argue the phrase “humane execution” is an oxymoron...


19 posted on 05/07/2014 1:19:35 PM PDT by ghost of stonewall jackson
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To: Kaslin

The bottom line is a simple one. That lethal injection is used solely because of the squeamishness of *viewers*, not with the idea of efficiently executing a murderer.

It is false empathy. And the way around it is simple: use the firing squad instead. There is a lot of logic there:

1) There is no nit-picking that bullets can and do kill; which means minimizing legal arguments and limiting appeals.

2) It is very inexpensive and there is no way any outsider can block an execution by preventing their use, like drug companies refusing to sell it. Bullets are ubiquitous.

3) An important reason: it returns the *purpose* of the execution to be about the murderer, not the witnesses. Yes, there will be minimal blood on the shirt of the condemned after a bullet or two have passed through his heart. However, there won’t be any gushers because the heart will no longer pump the blood.

4) The size of the condemned doesn’t matter. A 90 pound weakling can be just as effectively executed as can a 600 pound pile of lard.

5) The firing squad can be used as an alternative to other means of execution. A state might even pass a law that if by dint of appeals, another form of execution has been made *impractical*, executions will at the discretion of the state be carried out with a firing squad.

This will defeat many time consuming appeals.


20 posted on 05/07/2014 1:23:55 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy (WoT News: Rantburg.com)
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