Posted on 05/03/2014 6:38:21 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
There are precious few sure bets in American politics, but if Nate Silver starts giving you a 60% chance at something you generally pay attention. And that’s the odds Nate is laying out for the GOP to retake the Senate. But for a group of people who seem so entirely hell bent for leather on getting this done, we don’t really know what they plan to do with it if they get it. Over at Outside the Beltway, Doug shares some predictions from Michael Tomasky, who is not particularly optimistic.
Lets start with the bleak view. If the Republicans win the Senate, says Norman Ornstein of the American Enterprise Institute, the conclusion theyre going to draw is obstruction works, and theyre going to double down on it. So theyll be thinking, Why go out of our way to do stuff and why compromise when in two years we can win it all?
Ornsteins frequent collaborator, Thomas Mann of the Brookings Institution, thinks that while it should make sense that Republicans eyeing a 2016 White House win would want to have some accomplishments to point to, we shouldnt bet on it. The interests of the party in 16 are clear, but whether that proves sufficient to produce something positive out of the Republicans in Congress is a big reach, says Mann. They almost have an incentive to keep the economy going at a more tepid rate.
Neera Tanden, president of the Center for American Progress, agrees. A GOP Senate takeover would be terrible for Obamas presidency, Tanden says. It would spell the end of any progress on any legislative action and with GOP control of both houses of Congress, Republicans would set up debates to help their presidential candidates in 2016. And of course, investigations of the administration would double.
What about the senators themselves? New Yorks Chuck Schumer predicts: It would let loose six years of right-wing frustration. The potential for gridlock is enormous.
Doug doesn’t have much more of a chipper outlook, but I have to wonder if some of these folks are relying a bit too heavily on recent history repeating itself. It’s easy to look at the current lay of the land and assume that with Barack Obama in office for the next two years, nothing much will change. But the ability to get bills out of committee in both chambers and send a finished piece of legislation to the President’s desk has a particular value all of its own. In the current configuration, Democrats can simply point to the divided nature of government as a reason for a lack of progress. But if Congress can begin shoveling finished legislation, approved by the elected representatives of the people, the picture changes.
It would be worth drafting up a number of bills and sending them to Barack Obama’s desk. If he simply vetoes them all, then he is the bottleneck for the next two years. And if he somehow manages to sign something in the spirit of bipartisanship? Bonus.
With the senators we have now nothing changes. McCain et al must be retired with every primary opportunity.
Republicans will do nothing.
Wanna bet?
Sadly, I’ve reached the point that I believe that even if you gave them 100% of the seats, they still wouldn’t do the things that are the most critically important to the saving of the republic.
“Share power”, bloviate, make excuses for failing to move the ball on freedom, mealy-mouth, and surrender even though they outnumber their enemies. They’re the GOP, what did you think they were going to do?
would crawl on broken glass to vote in primary
We have a winner...
If the Republicans win the Senate there will be an increase in the number of executive orders.
There are a lot of defeatist posts to this thread.
If the republicans take control of the senate (highly likely),
it would still not be enough to push back the federal behemoth.
But, it would be enough to stop the beast’s advance.
Even (wishful thinking) with 60 votes in the Senate,
no, it would not be enough votes for impeachment, and
no, it would not be enough votes to override a presidential veto.
Budget bills would likely result in another government shutdown,
and it would sit squarely on the head of the executive branch.
Unqualified judges appointed?
fahgettaboudit
Item number one would be to give Harry back the fillibuster.
So, the Senate should stay Democrat? Is that what you're saying?
Give up? Surrender? Continue the ‘fundamental transformation of America’ that Barry started, but maybe ease up on the gas a teeny tinny bit?
What they SHOULDN’T do is roll back the nuclear option. At least not until they’ve rubbed the Democrats’ faces in it.
Unless the GOP fully embraces the TP, they have NO hope of taking the Senate....NONE!
power sharing just like the last time they controlled it
they can control and work in sync with the house.
obama will veto everything.
if both have veto-proof majorities they can override the vetoes.
they can begin impeachment and vote on removal after impeachment and succeed if they had the balls.
already know the answer. we had the presidency, supremes and both houses of congress and Daschle still ran the country. Our guys don’t know how to act like they won something.
What a beautiful time it will be. Peace, love and harmony! Just watch those Republicans sit up on the hind legs for the Democrats and beg for a bone.
The same thing they did last time.... nothing but bow and scrape ....just ask Mitch
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