Posted on 05/03/2014 12:55:12 AM PDT by Berlin_Freeper
When Obama said he would "fundamentally transform" the United States, few anticipated that the plan involved destroying the minds of young people through addictive substances. But after the expenditure of $250 million by Obama backer George Soros on behalf of the marijuana legalization movement, we are seeing the results, especially in Colorado. The new website www.legalizationviolations.org is documenting the fallout and the damage.
(Excerpt) Read more at renewamerica.com ...
That is not the Colorado I lived in as a child.
When are you whiners going to give up the “its no worse than...” meme?
Society doesn’t need more poisons under that false pretense.
The dope culture is creating an unmotivated, mind numbed, population, who will NEVER achieve their true potential.
The unprovable notion that these same people would be alcoholic if they weren’t toking, is pure bull.
What's your keyboard been smokin'? Spellcheck stoned?
FMCDH(BITS)
I hate drugs....but I hate Fascism even more....This should scare the pants off of ever freedom-loving American.
So, the Columbians weren’t in the marijuana business until it was legalized. The Mob got into the liquor business once Prohibition ended. I’m supposed to believe this? The hysteria is just amazing. Pot’s been out there for anyone who wanted to get some, even though it was illegal. What’s so hard for people to understand.
Our constitution is no longer a barrier to ever increasing government powers while our constitutional rights are increasingly being ignored and this is no small part due to the supposed "war on (some) drugs". You do realize that despite a government that spends billions on the war on (some) drugs that the overwhelming majority of drug addicts are addicted to prescription drugs and in the meantime we can't even bother to close our borders? The war on drugs is an excuse, and it always was an excuse, and you just aren't bright enough to see it.
You'd think that even the densest of hippies would "get" free markets, competition and capitalism just from the story of marijuana cultivation in America in the last 30 years.
Here’s your “cogent” point:
Society doesn’t need more poisons under the false pretense that it’s no worse than booze.
The dope culture is creating an unmotivated, mind numbed, population, who will NEVER achieve their true potential.
The unprovable notion that these same people would be alcoholic if they weren’t toking, is pure bull.
The Constitution was not written to protect drug use.
A poorly managed “drug war” is no excuse for legalization.
The prescription drug abuse is another matter and has NOTHING to do with illegal drugs.
Closing our borders is a wonderful idea that also has NOTHING to do with legalizing drugs.
So, what is it that you’re pretending the war on drugs is an excuse for?
Or, are you bright enough to explain that?
Do you support Colorado’s prerogative under the 10th Amendment to regulate intrastate mj?
10th Amendment “prerogatives” are Constitutionally constrained under Article 1, Section 8, as follows:
To make all Laws which shall be necessary and proper for carrying into Execution the foregoing Powers, and all other Powers vested by this Constitution in the Government of the United States, or in any Department or Officer thereof.
So, in a word, regarding mj....NO!
An open border perpetuates many issues including the free flow of drugs. If our government had any real intent of winning the drug war they would have shut down the border, but they don't. Don't you think that is interesting?
Pretending? With all due respect look at historical record. From 1914 to 1937 drug prohibition took off an became a big government business. When Alcohol was made legal other drugs quickly took its place. Innumerable usurpations of power have occurred since the first real prohibition in 1920 but let's hit some of the high points. 1934 NFA, the rise of criminal organizations never seen before in the US, an ever more militarized police force, no knock raids, asset forfeiture, warrant-less searches. Billions of dollars spent, tens of thousands of Federal employees hired, 100's killed in service.
All of that...and what do we have to show for it? Drugs usage is remarkably similar to that before prohibition and drugs are readily available and cheap. Need some dope? I bet almost everyone reading this could buy some within an hour without straining to find a supplier. Want drugs but don't want to deal with dangerous drug dealer types? Afraid of the stigma of being a druggie? No problem! Go to your doctor, they would be happy to give you a drug to cure your ills. From Adderol to Zoloft, they have something for everyone.
Let's recap shall we? Government says "we need to stop abuse of XX Drug because it will turn you into a newt (or some other equally improbably justification), and we need a bazillion dollars to do it". Then they take the money, don't do all that much except usurp more and more and more power but we have copious amounts of easily accessible drugs. Those are the facts. Cold hard math.
How about another example. Heroin is making a big comeback in the states. Heroin is derived from Opium. 98% percent of opium world wide is grown in Afghanistan. We have complete military control of Afghanistan. If the government really wanted to stop poppies being grown in a country that we control militarily it could. Pretty clearly the "war on (some) drugs" is a con.
That being said I'm not even particularly pro-legalization. It would cause a raft of problems...but it's sure better than the problems we have now with a government taxing us to oblivion that is just a couple of steps from being an overt police state.
IOW, you support the expansive New Deal Commerce Clause - the same Commerce Clause view that has allowed fedgov control of health care, education, the environment and a host of other big govt programs.
You've given up any constitutional argument against such fedgov overreach at the expense of the 10th Amendment.
Who made that pretense? You? Why are you telling me about it?
The dope culture is creating an unmotivated, mind numbed, population, who will NEVER achieve their true potential.
With our entertainment culture that spends so much time watching socialistic propaganda disguised as sitcoms or couch athletes supporting our modern bread and circuses I'm not sure if drugs can really be singled out the primary factor for the degradation of our culture.
The unprovable notion that these same people would be alcoholic if they weren’t toking, is pure bull.
You should probably take that up with the person who told you that "unprovable notion" because it wasn't me.
No, that is your bogus extrapolation.
“If drugs can’t be legalized all is lost!”
Whata buncha crap!
Clarence Thomas on the Commerce Clause:
Respondents Diane Monson and Angel Raich use marijuana that has never been bought or sold, that has never crossed state lines, and that has had no demonstrable effect on the national market for marijuana.
If Congress can regulate this under the Commerce Clause, then it can regulate virtually anything–and the Federal Government is no longer one of limited and enumerated powers.
--J. Thomas, dissenting in Raich
Fine..
Then close all of the pot shops in Washington and Colorado.
Which was counteracted by the $250 million spent by the Big Alcohol movement (hop growers; distillers; distributors; retailers) scared of the coming competition.
Actually, neither side had much influence on most votes around here [WA]; people just voted their opinion.
This article is full of slanted 'reporting', which is more like besmirching.
It is a known problem that the edibles generally have far too high a THC content (4X or 6X what it should be). Has no one ever spoken erratically or damaged walls after drinking two six packs of beer? I think they have. The states should be regulating the THC content.
Won't be reading this author or his site in the future.
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