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To: Durus

The Constitution was not written to protect drug use.

A poorly managed “drug war” is no excuse for legalization.
The prescription drug abuse is another matter and has NOTHING to do with illegal drugs.
Closing our borders is a wonderful idea that also has NOTHING to do with legalizing drugs.

So, what is it that you’re pretending the war on drugs is an excuse for?
Or, are you bright enough to explain that?


29 posted on 05/03/2014 4:02:36 PM PDT by G Larry (Which of Obama's policies do you think I'd support if he were white?)
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To: G Larry

Do you support Colorado’s prerogative under the 10th Amendment to regulate intrastate mj?


30 posted on 05/03/2014 5:21:40 PM PDT by Ken H
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To: G Larry
The constitution was written in part to limit the powers of government to those powers enumerated by the constitution.

An open border perpetuates many issues including the free flow of drugs. If our government had any real intent of winning the drug war they would have shut down the border, but they don't. Don't you think that is interesting?

Pretending? With all due respect look at historical record. From 1914 to 1937 drug prohibition took off an became a big government business. When Alcohol was made legal other drugs quickly took its place. Innumerable usurpations of power have occurred since the first real prohibition in 1920 but let's hit some of the high points. 1934 NFA, the rise of criminal organizations never seen before in the US, an ever more militarized police force, no knock raids, asset forfeiture, warrant-less searches. Billions of dollars spent, tens of thousands of Federal employees hired, 100's killed in service.

All of that...and what do we have to show for it? Drugs usage is remarkably similar to that before prohibition and drugs are readily available and cheap. Need some dope? I bet almost everyone reading this could buy some within an hour without straining to find a supplier. Want drugs but don't want to deal with dangerous drug dealer types? Afraid of the stigma of being a druggie? No problem! Go to your doctor, they would be happy to give you a drug to cure your ills. From Adderol to Zoloft, they have something for everyone.

Let's recap shall we? Government says "we need to stop abuse of XX Drug because it will turn you into a newt (or some other equally improbably justification), and we need a bazillion dollars to do it". Then they take the money, don't do all that much except usurp more and more and more power but we have copious amounts of easily accessible drugs. Those are the facts. Cold hard math.

How about another example. Heroin is making a big comeback in the states. Heroin is derived from Opium. 98% percent of opium world wide is grown in Afghanistan. We have complete military control of Afghanistan. If the government really wanted to stop poppies being grown in a country that we control militarily it could. Pretty clearly the "war on (some) drugs" is a con.

That being said I'm not even particularly pro-legalization. It would cause a raft of problems...but it's sure better than the problems we have now with a government taxing us to oblivion that is just a couple of steps from being an overt police state.

32 posted on 05/03/2014 6:27:11 PM PDT by Durus (You can avoid reality, but you cannot avoid the consequences of avoiding reality. Ayn Rand)
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