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I for one am fed up with the establishment mentality that we Christians need not be seen nor heard until it's time to enter that voting booth, and then we better vote for the Democrat lite candidate they have given us.

I am also fed up with the preachers who claim we should never mention politics in church during an election period. Year after year we see our rights as Christians in America being shredded from the constitution while those things the constitution never mentioned are approved by decree of activist judges who have been educated beyond their intelligence.

1 posted on 04/30/2014 7:57:57 PM PDT by OneVike
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Should we keep faith and politics separate? What say you?


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2 posted on 04/30/2014 8:01:55 PM PDT by OneVike (I'm just a Christian waiting for a ride home)
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To: OneVike

When they mix, you get America in her greatness...

When they don’t, you get America in her defeat.


3 posted on 04/30/2014 8:02:09 PM PDT by Safrguns (PM me if you like to play Minecraft!)
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To: OneVike

The seeds of the American revolution were planted on the colonial churches.


4 posted on 04/30/2014 8:04:14 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: OneVike

It has to be said about the Muslims, they likely laugh their asses off at Christians’ reluctance to wade into politicsas it pertains to faith. Islam fully embraces the fact that to get what it wants, it must be heavily politically involved, and as barbaric as the society it creates is, that is just the society Islam commands.

Christians should never fear the mix of religion and politics, for they are already entwined, yet in a state denied by liberals. Practically all of our laws are based on absolute morals which are religious in their foundation and justification. Ask a judge why rape is illegal and he will tell you that it is wrong. Ask him why it is wrong, he will struggle to give a coherent answer without referencing the divine.


5 posted on 04/30/2014 8:05:27 PM PDT by Viennacon
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To: OneVike

The Christian Faith pits father against son and son against father, mother against daughter and daughter against mother, mother-in-law against daughter-in-law and daughter-in-law against mother-in-law. If it’s family, it’s also politics, so don’t expect much peace except as pertains to the life of the world to come in Christ Jesus. “My kingdom is not of this world” are words spoken in truth by the Son of God. He has not changed.


7 posted on 04/30/2014 8:05:41 PM PDT by Fester Chugabrew
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To: OneVike

Our Founding Fathers mixed Religion and Politics, I’d say that they had the mix right.


8 posted on 04/30/2014 8:07:41 PM PDT by Shadowstrike (Be polite, Be professional, but have a plan to kill everyone you meet.)
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To: OneVike
Everybody votes for what the America that they desire.

For believing Christians it is traditional America and freedom and limited government. For atheists and the weak of faith, and the anti-faith, it is liberalism and the resulting oppression and big government.

9 posted on 04/30/2014 8:08:51 PM PDT by ansel12 ((Libertarianism offers the transitory concepts and dialogue to move from conservatism, to liberalism)
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To: OneVike

Politics and ‘religion’ not only mix; they are just different phases of humanism.

Yeshua’s way to his narrow gate is in no way related to religion. He has called us to a life that rarely has room for politics, and searching for a reward in politics is a depressing exercise in futility.

We have work to do.
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12 posted on 04/30/2014 8:13:07 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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There’s a great book, “Original Intent” by David Barton.

I haven’t started reading it yet, but I’ve heard David speak several times and his conclusions from all the founding documents were that unless you had a credible relationship with God, you should not be allowed to hold any government office.

Neither should anyone be allowed to teach our children. I’m sure the unions will be thrilled with that one.


20 posted on 04/30/2014 8:29:00 PM PDT by CyberAnt (True the Vote: MY AMERICA, "... I'm terrified it's slipping away.")
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http://www.thenewamerican.com/culture/history/item/4758-resurrecting-the-black-regiment

According to historian/educator Reverend Wayne Sedlak, in his article “The Black Regiment Led the Fight in Our War for Independence”:

It was British sympathizer Peter Oliver, who actually first used the name “Black Regiment.” He complained that such clergymen were invariably at the heart of the revolutionary disturbances. He tied their influence to such colonial leaders as Samuel Adams, James Otis and others of prominence in the cause. He quotes colonial leadership in its quest to gain the voice of the clergy. In one instance, he disparagingly cites a public plea of James Otis who sought the help of the clergy in a particular manner.....

So influential were the patriot-pulpits of Colonial America that it was said by Prime Minister Horace Walpole in the British Parliament, “Cousin America has run off with a Presbyterian parson.” In fact, America’s War for Independence was often referenced in Parliament as “the Presbyterian Revolt.” And during the Revolutionary War, British troops often made colonial churches military targets. Churches were torched, ransacked, and pillaged.


22 posted on 04/30/2014 8:31:55 PM PDT by ForYourChildren (Christian Education [ RomanRoadsMedia.com - a classical Christian approach to homeschool])
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To: OneVike

Religion “IS” Politics..


23 posted on 04/30/2014 8:33:48 PM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole..)
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To: OneVike

Even if one is of the opinion that the two are utterly separate (a popular notion), a line must then be drawn between them. Unless there is 100% agreement on where that line is located, the two are mixed. I’m amazed that’s even controversial. How can they not be mixed? If government is pushing against my religious beliefs, then political issues are religious issues.


26 posted on 04/30/2014 8:43:27 PM PDT by cdcdawg (Be seeing you...)
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To: OneVike

They say that in polite company that we should never discuss religion or politics. My response for many years has been that they are the only two subjects worth talking about, because one will determine our eternal destiny, and the other will determine the earthly destiny of our posterity. What other subjects could come anywhere close in terms of importance?


37 posted on 04/30/2014 9:36:20 PM PDT by EternalVigilance
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To: OneVike

a careful reading of the Bible assures me that our Lord was very well versed in politics.

a careful reading of our founding documents assures me that our Founders were well versed in our Lord’s teaching of limited governance and human nature.

conclusion: America was founded explicitly as a Christian nation. “separation of church and state” is a leftist canard.


40 posted on 04/30/2014 10:00:39 PM PDT by dadfly
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To: OneVike

If you believe that a fetus is a human being but you support abortion, aren’t you in effect supporting murder?


46 posted on 05/01/2014 3:27:49 AM PDT by TwelveOfTwenty (See my home page for some of my answers to the left's talking points.)
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To: OneVike
Politics and Religion: Do They Mix?

Sure they do!


 "So help me God"
 
 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oath_of_office_of_the_President_of_the_United_States
 
 
 



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Mayflower Compact
 
In the name of God, Amen. We, whose names are underwritten, the loyal subjects of our dread Sovereign Lord King James, by the Grace of God, of Great Britain, France, and Ireland, King, defender of the Faith, etc.

Having undertaken, for the Glory of God, and advancements of the Christian faith and honor of our King and Country, a voyage to plant the first colony in the Northern parts of Virginia, do by these presents, solemnly and mutually, in the presence of God, and one another, covenant and combine ourselves together into a civil body politic; for our better ordering, and preservation and furtherance of the ends aforesaid; and by virtue hereof to enact, constitute, and frame, such just and equal laws, ordinances, acts, constitutions, and offices, from time to time, as shall be thought most meet and convenient for the general good of the colony; unto which we promise all due submission and obedience.In witness whereof we have hereunto subscribed our names at Cape Cod the 11th of November, in the year of the reign of our Sovereign Lord King James, of England, France, and Ireland, the eighteenth, and of Scotland the fifty-fourth, 1620.

 
 
 

47 posted on 05/01/2014 4:11:44 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: OneVike
Like a congregation sitting in the pews of a church, the crowds long to hear something that will touch the part of their soul that yearned for truth.

AMEN!

48 posted on 05/01/2014 4:12:48 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: OneVike

Thomas Jefferson 3rd U.S. President, Drafter and Signer of the Declaration of Independence

“God who gave us life gave us liberty. And can the liberties of a nation be thought secure when we have removed their only firm basis, a conviction in the minds of the people that these liberties are of the Gift of God? That they are not to be violated but with His wrath? Indeed, I tremble for my country when I reflect that God is just; that His justice cannot sleep forever; That a revolution of the wheel of fortune, a change of situation, is among possible events; that it may become probable by Supernatural influence! The Almighty has no attribute which can take side with us in that event.”

—Notes on the State of Virginia, Query XVIII, p. 237.


59 posted on 05/01/2014 4:42:08 AM PDT by Mechanicos (When did we amend the Constitution for a 2nd Federal Prohibition?)
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To: OneVike

Government has a staggering amount of power for good or for evil, and mostly the latter as government gets bigger. The idea that someone should wield such power without any reference to morality is absurd. Of course politics should be guided by religion. When I see a candidate who claims his personal beliefs and values will not affect his votes, I assume that is a candidate who has no beliefs and values, someone who is available only to the highest bidder.


64 posted on 05/01/2014 10:29:59 AM PDT by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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