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GOP Scrambles To Condemn Rancher's Remarks on Race
NBCNews.com ^ | 04/24/2014 | Carrie Dann

Posted on 04/24/2014 7:03:12 AM PDT by GIdget2004

Republicans – including possible 2016 candidate Rand Paul -- are scrambling to distance themselves from defiant Nevada rancher Cliven Bundy after he made startling comments about slavery and African-Americans in a New York Times article published Wednesday night.

From the Times’ Adam Nagourney:

“I want to tell you one more thing I know about the Negro,” he said. Mr. Bundy recalled driving past a public-housing project in North Las Vegas, “and in front of that government house the door was usually open and the older people and the kids — and there is always at least a half a dozen people sitting on the porch — they didn’t have nothing to do. They didn’t have nothing for their kids to do. They didn’t have nothing for their young girls to do.

“And because they were basically on government subsidy, so now what do they do?” he asked. “They abort their young children, they put their young men in jail, because they never learned how to pick cotton. And I’ve often wondered, are they better off as slaves, picking cotton and having a family life and doing things, or are they better off under government subsidy? They didn’t get no more freedom. They got less freedom.”

Bundy had previously drawn support from some GOP lawmakers for his clash with the Bureau of Land Management.

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In statements after Bundy’s remarks, both Paul and Heller condemned his comments.

"His remarks on race are offensive and I wholeheartedly disagree with him,” said Paul.

And a spokesman for Heller told the Times that the senator “completely disagrees with Mr. Bundy’s appalling and racist statements, and condemns them in the most strenuous way.”

(Excerpt) Read more at nbcnews.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Nevada
KEYWORDS: blm; bundy; bundyranch; clivenbundy; harryreid; jumpedtheshark; nevada; racist
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To: apillar
Yeah, some how I get the feeling that Mr. Bundy is the type of old timer that couldn’t care less what anybody thinks about him....

Yeah, some how I get the feeling that Senator Reid is the type of old timer that couldn’t care less what anybody thinks about him....

61 posted on 04/24/2014 7:28:53 AM PDT by Night Hides Not (For every Ted Cruz we send to DC, I can endure 2-3 "unviable" candidates that beat incumbents.)
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To: Graybeard58

Bundy is Mormon?


62 posted on 04/24/2014 7:29:04 AM PDT by lonestar (It takes a village of idiots to elect a village idiot.)
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To: GIdget2004

What do you expect from a cowpuncher, a phony baloney statement read from a teleprompter?


63 posted on 04/24/2014 7:29:20 AM PDT by jetson
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To: DoodleDawg
Well since he doesn’t recognize the existence of the U.S. government...

You would think Sen. Paul would take more of an issue with this belief.

64 posted on 04/24/2014 7:29:42 AM PDT by gdani (Every day, your Govt surveils you more than the day before)
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To: GIdget2004
So now if you don't have correct opinion, you are a little off, or you just don't agree with someone you forfeit you rights
65 posted on 04/24/2014 7:30:32 AM PDT by john316 (JOSHUA 24:15 ...choose you this day whom ye will serve...)
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To: GIdget2004

This is a prime example of the GOP being weak kneed and mamby pamby.


66 posted on 04/24/2014 7:31:55 AM PDT by Altura Ct. (i)
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To: GIdget2004
Well, thanks a lot, Mr. Bundy. Now everyone who supported you will be labeled a "racist."

He could have made his point about having nothing to do without the remarks on slavery.

67 posted on 04/24/2014 7:32:06 AM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (The Left: speaking power to truth since Shevirat HaKelim.)
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To: GIdget2004

OH Puh-leaze!!!!

This will be their justification for murdering him and his family....they’re “kooky razists”.

Thought crimes are now considered capital crimes in Post-Modern Amerika.

We’ve come full circle since before the days of the First American Revolution.


68 posted on 04/24/2014 7:32:16 AM PDT by Roman_War_Criminal (Bible Summary in a few verses: John 14:6, John 6:29, Romans 10:9-10)
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To: lonestar

Yes.


69 posted on 04/24/2014 7:32:20 AM PDT by Graybeard58 (If any man love not the Lord Jesus Christ, let him be Anathema Maranatha. 1 Cor 16: 32)
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To: GIdget2004
And a spokesman for Heller told the Times that the senator “completely disagrees with Mr. Bundy’s appalling and racist statements, and condemns them in the most strenuous way.”

What exactly is "racist" about them? He used the word "Negro" -- still used in the NAACP title -- but otherwise was commenting on how the Great Society has harmed Black people. He never said anything about them being stupid or lazy. The context was that the government was to blame.

70 posted on 04/24/2014 7:32:49 AM PDT by montag813
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To: GIdget2004

And , of course, this will be run on the media news shows 24/7 nonstop commentary.

If this was a supporter of Zer0 or a prominent democrat, they would not even mention it.


71 posted on 04/24/2014 7:33:46 AM PDT by envisio (Its on like Donkey Kong!)
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To: john316
So now if you don't have correct opinion, you are a little off, or you just don't agree with someone you forfeit you rights

No, but... YES, you DO have to be careful if you are asking others to stand beside you. You cannot make these sort of easily-twisted comments. THINK people, BEFORE YOU OPEN YER YAP. Think: 1) Does this have anything to do with my cause. 2) Will this help or hinder my cause.

72 posted on 04/24/2014 7:34:07 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Early 2009 to 7/21/2013 - RIP my little girl Cathy. You were the best cat ever. You will be missed.)
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To: GIdget2004

I agree Bundy has a right to say this, and I agree this is just a trick of the left to shift the focus. But as others here have noted (regarding GOP leadership), situational awareness is in order. I would extend that requirement to Bundy. We are in a multi-layered war. You don’t go out in front of enemy artillery with a target painted on your behind.

Having said all that, I do get what Bundy is saying, and it is not too different from beliefs my own father expressed. My dad was a teacher in Chicago inner city schools, and then a principal. It was his life’s mission to help the black community recover, as he understood it, from a totally botched Reconstruction effort to transform the slave subculture, as a whole, into a productive partner in freedom. His method was to reward strong individual effort and independence, and to NOT reward behavior that reflected an undue dependence on others.

And it was working. Students from his program were getting out of the hood and becoming doctors and lawyers. However, the program was shut down, directly and in person, by Jesse Jackson, with the blessing of the elder Mayer Daley. Why? Because 1) my dad was not the “right color” to run that school (Jesse told him this to his face), and 2) because the parents of the non-achievers blamed their lack of achievement on my dad’s race, not on their own lack of personal development.

So Bundy’s point, that there is was a serious problem in the cultural transition from slave to free, is right on the money. But I still think it’s boneheaded to ever say of anyone, they’d be better off a slave. That’s just un-American. We believe in freedom, no matter how much work it takes to get and keep it.


73 posted on 04/24/2014 7:34:16 AM PDT by Springfield Reformer (Winston Churchill: No Peace Till Victory!)
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To: GIdget2004

It is his opinion, I take it he sees that the Blacks just have a different master now- the government.

He is a person that works hard and cannot imagine not working, he would rather pick cotton than nothing and thinks they should too. I understand that, if I had nothing to do all day that would be the worst life imaginable to me, I know I would be better off picking cotton. Don’t forget ranchers do hard manual labor every day, so to him there is nothing wrong with picking cotton, manual labor to him is honorable. Not so much to his critics that look down on manual labor. He has a right to free speech, and yes he will be condemned but at some point if we want to fix things we will have to allow free speech and stop most of the PC crap which is used by liberals to silence people. He could have chosen his words more carefully, but no matter how he said it he would have been accused of racism. I have no idea if he is racist or not but I understand what he was saying here. I think not just the Blacks but all those on welfare with nothing to do would be better off working at anything, picking cotton, digging ditches, you name it. Of course I would suggest other jobs to them where they could possibly work their way up the ladder but there is nothing wrong with manual labor.


74 posted on 04/24/2014 7:34:30 AM PDT by Tammy8
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To: montag813
What exactly is "racist" about them? He used the word "Negro" -- still used in the NAACP title -- but otherwise was commenting on how the Great Society has harmed Black people. He never said anything about them being stupid or lazy. The context was that the government was to blame.

THEN HE SHOULD HAVE SAID THAT. "The Great Society program started by Johnson has hurt minorities in America." Was that so hard? Why bring slavery or cotton-picking into the commentary??? Sheesh.

75 posted on 04/24/2014 7:35:55 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Early 2009 to 7/21/2013 - RIP my little girl Cathy. You were the best cat ever. You will be missed.)
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To: GIdget2004

Dingy Harry Reid made good on his threat that “something would happen” to Bundy,


76 posted on 04/24/2014 7:36:05 AM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: Responsibility2nd
Yeah, but Phil’s comments were warmly received by America. And when A&E had a hissy fit and suspended Phil? It backfired against them big time. But what Bundy just said? Forget about it. He’s done.

Two points: 1. Please read again what he was allegedly overheard to say. You may be falling in line with politically-correct thinking too quickly.

2. I may disagree with your comment about Bundy being done; not sure of your meaning. Done as a rancher? Done as an American? Done how?
77 posted on 04/24/2014 7:37:20 AM PDT by Resettozero
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To: massgopguy

It’s already all over the Blaze!

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Of course it is.

Somewhere Rush, Sean, the Michaels and others are breathing a huge sigh of relief that they didn’t support Bundy earlier. I’d be surprised if they even mention this incident.

They have been and will continue to be separate and apart from Clive Bundy.


78 posted on 04/24/2014 7:37:44 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: PJ-Comix
I’m still waiting to hear a recording of this. Supposedly the statements were made at a press conference last Saturday and these comments were only “overheard” by the NYT? No one else heard this? No recordings despite the fact that cell phone cameras are ubiquitous?

Good point. In today's media (read: Propaganda) culture, I will need hard proof.

79 posted on 04/24/2014 7:38:10 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Early 2009 to 7/21/2013 - RIP my little girl Cathy. You were the best cat ever. You will be missed.)
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To: GIdget2004
And his remarks have what to do with grazing rights, federal tyranny and state sovreignity?
80 posted on 04/24/2014 7:38:24 AM PDT by Eagles6 (Valley Forge Redux. If not now, when? If not here, where?)
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