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New York the latest state to sign compact to end electoral college
American Thinker ^ | 04/18/2014 | Rick Moran

Posted on 04/18/2014 6:32:49 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

Governor Cuomo has signed off on the National Popular Vote Compact, giving New York's 29 electoral votes to the winner of the national popular vote.

SILive:

Count New York in.

The Empire State has joined the National Popular Vote compact with legislation signed Tuesday by Gov. Andrew Cuomo.

States that have signed on to the interstate agreement will award electoral votes for president to the candidate who receives the majority of the national popular vote.

"With the passage of this legislation, New York is taking a bold step to fundamentally increase the strength and fairness of our nation's presidential elections," said Cuomo. "By aligning the Electoral College with the voice of the nation's voters, we are ensuring the equality of the votes and encouraging candidates to appeal to voters in all states, instead of disproportionately focusing on early contests and swing states."

Under the winner-take-all system, candidates for president have taken to ignoring states that are reliably Republican or Democratic, like New York, while focusing their attention and resources on a smaller group of battleground or swing states.

While New York has more than 13 million voters, ranking fourth in the nation, it is last when it comes to presidential spending.

New York joins the District of Columbia and nine states in signing on to the compact -- including California, Hawaii, Illinois, Maryland, Massachusetts, New Jersey, Rhode Island, Vermont and Washington.

The legislation utilizes New York state's right under the U.S. Constitution to award its 29 electoral votes in any manner it deems appropriate, in this case to the winner of the national popular vote.

(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...


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To: SeekAndFind

If they thought the “hanging chad” fraud left the 2000 election in limbo, just imagine Florida x 50: “Presidential Candidate X has garnered 10 million votes, Presidential Candidate Y has 10 million 100. Film at 11.”


41 posted on 04/18/2014 7:30:43 AM PDT by Oatka (This is America. Assimilate or evaporate.)
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To: only1percent

bullpucky. It empowers Miami, L.A., NYC, Cleveland, Detroit, Chicago, Philly, and other liberal or undocumented enclaves to decide who will be the next Dear Leader(s).


42 posted on 04/18/2014 7:32:53 AM PDT by epluribus_2 (he had the best mom - ever.)
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To: SeekAndFind

We need one state to enact a law requiring their electors to vote opposite any popular vote cabal of states.


43 posted on 04/18/2014 7:33:34 AM PDT by Born to Conserve
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To: ScottinVA

maybe we won’t need to even vote at all if the colors on that map line up right. Just do a census and elect the victors.


44 posted on 04/18/2014 7:34:16 AM PDT by epluribus_2 (he had the best mom - ever.)
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To: SeekAndFind

OK, lets use recent history to see how this will work. How much more important would the vote counts be on the Democrat West Coast if there was a similar close election to 2000? How long would it take to get a mutually acceptable count completed for these States to make their decision? The understated benefit of the Electoral College (EC) is a timely decision on date certain.

Al Gore’s bitter partisan’s constant bemoaning of the US Supreme Court decisions on Florida’s election process lose sight of the fact that time was running out for a decision for the participant selection from Florida. As it stood, Bush43 had a bare-bones transition between the December decision and the January Inauguration.

So visualize a similar election with a squeaking close popular vote and all of the different voting methods and disputable ‘hanging chads’ all over the country. Now remember such localities like King County Washington where sufficient post-election day 2004 ballots were ‘found’ to elect the Democrat candidate for Governor. Multiply this by all of the possible paths to election and then think HOW LONG it would take to find a candidate for these ‘Popular Vote’ states to swing their EC votes to.

Sorry, this is a lawyer’s dream and a nation’s nightmare!


45 posted on 04/18/2014 7:46:21 AM PDT by SES1066 (Quality, Speed or Economical - Any 2 of 3 except in government - 1 at best but never #3!)
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To: SeekAndFind
I always thought these compacts were unconstitutional-- the Constitution clearly specifies that the Electoral College makes the decision, and once the Electors are chosen they are Federal officials (like a Congressman) and the states cannot control how they vote.

Anyone else have thoughts on this?

I also know this is mainly an attempt to slant elections in favor of liberal urban areas vs. smaller, more rural states-- doesn't this also strike at the federal structure that has always been at the core of the Electoral College?

46 posted on 04/18/2014 7:46:24 AM PDT by pierrem15 (Claudius: "Let all the poisons that lurk in the mud hatch out.")
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To: cripplecreek

Thanks for the map.
I want to reform the electoral college system too.

I want every county in the country to have one electoral vote. Conservatives would win every time.

http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/2012-election-county-by-county/


47 posted on 04/18/2014 7:50:10 AM PDT by A'elian' nation ("Political Correctness does not legislate tolerance; it only organizes hatred." Jacques Barzun)
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To: A'elian' nation
I want every county in the country to have one electoral vote.

The problem with one vote per county is it would be hugely disproportional across the country.

48 posted on 04/18/2014 7:57:06 AM PDT by gdani (Every day, your Govt surveils you more than the day before)
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To: SeekAndFind

1state, 1 vote. That would work.


49 posted on 04/18/2014 7:58:06 AM PDT by vpintheak (I will not comply!)
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To: Red Badger
This will blow up in their faces like a balloon full of shaving cream.........................

Be nice and clean,
Shave every day and you'll always look keen.

50 posted on 04/18/2014 8:48:59 AM PDT by Disambiguator
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To: Disambiguator

51 posted on 04/18/2014 9:00:52 AM PDT by Red Badger (Soon there will be another American Civil War. Will make the first one seem like a Tea Party........)
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To: Red Badger
Shaving Cream
52 posted on 04/18/2014 9:05:56 AM PDT by Disambiguator
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To: gdani

I realize that, but it is disproportional now.
The city of Philadelphia alone carries the electoral vote for Pennsylvania. And there were districts in Philadelphia that voted 105% for the bamster.

It is cities versus rural, and the country folks are disproportionately left out in the cold.


53 posted on 04/19/2014 5:31:05 AM PDT by A'elian' nation ("Political Correctness does not legislate tolerance; it only organizes hatred." Jacques Barzun)
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To: BwanaNdege; Jacquerie

If done correctly, there is zero opportunity for the forces of Lucifer to highjack it:

Plan: COS’s plan is twofold

1. We want to call a convention for a particular subject rather than a particular amendment. Instead of calling a convention for a balanced budget amendment (though we are entirely supportive of such an amendment), we want to call a convention for the following purpose: Limiting the power and jurisdiction of the federal government.

2. We believe the grassroots is the key to calling a successful convention. We would like to build a political operation in a minimum of 40 states, getting 100 people to volunteer in at least 75% of the state legislative districts. Only through the support of the American people will this project have a chance to succeed.

http://conventionofstates.com/welcome/


54 posted on 04/19/2014 6:49:03 AM PDT by SC_Pete
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To: SC_Pete
Agree. There is a building groundswell of disgust out there that is just waiting for a spark. I think Ted Cruz may provide it.
55 posted on 04/19/2014 3:43:11 PM PDT by Jacquerie (Obama has established executive branch precedents that no election can reverse.)
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To: Jacquerie

He is the only one I see at the national level that has the intellectual capacity and courage to take on the entire political establishment on both sides of the aisle. We need a great man—now.


56 posted on 04/20/2014 4:37:01 AM PDT by SC_Pete
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