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New York the latest state to sign compact to end electoral college
American Thinker ^ | 04/18/2014 | Rick Moran

Posted on 04/18/2014 6:32:49 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

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To: Gen.Blather

Unfortunately (or not) it is constitutional...................


21 posted on 04/18/2014 6:49:08 AM PDT by Red Badger (Soon there will be another American Civil War. Will make the first one seem like a Tea Party........)
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To: SC_Pete

If this becomes reality, the answer is divorce.
There is no reason for a state to remain in America without proper representation.


22 posted on 04/18/2014 6:49:54 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: SeekAndFind

Yes, of course.

And, once again, our Founding Fathers prove how intelligent and wise they were.

They knew that city populations tend to attract the newly arrived and those who seek collectivist “protection” (liberals by the modern definition) and that those in the rural areas tend to be far more independent and self-reliant (conservative by the modern definition).

He also knew that the population densities in cities could easily outnumber the population of the rural areas.

They didn’t want a single big city in a state to dictate to the entire state.

So they installed two key rules: proportional representation and the electoral college.

The electoral college was designed to protect the minority from a purely pluralistic majority.

Of course, the left hates the idea of protecting conservatives, thus they are trying desperately to strike down the electoral college so that the country is essentially run by the major cities.


23 posted on 04/18/2014 6:49:59 AM PDT by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (Prepare for survival.)
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To: SeekAndFind

This will blow up in their faces like a balloon full of shaving cream.........................


24 posted on 04/18/2014 6:50:41 AM PDT by Red Badger (Soon there will be another American Civil War. Will make the first one seem like a Tea Party........)
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To: ScottinVA
Exactly right. However, several more states have current bills in their legislatures.

CT (7 EV) and MN (10) are likely the next to join, giving them a total of 182 (of 270)...
PA (20), AZ (11), and MI (16) would hurt (and hit 229 total)...
but OK (7) and NE (5) would finish off the Electoral College for good, even with just 12 EV's and a total of 241 of 270, because once right-leaning states join, it's over.

(And FL conveniently gives them their last 29 to hit 270 exactly, assuming every state listed above joins the Compact)

25 posted on 04/18/2014 6:51:59 AM PDT by Teacher317 (We have now sunk to a depth at which restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men)
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To: Red Badger

“Unfortunately (or not) it is constitutional...................”

Well, it practically means the end of Republican presidents. (I almost wrote conservative presidents.) It won’t even take very many states.


26 posted on 04/18/2014 6:52:22 AM PDT by Gen.Blather
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To: Red Badger

Why not just allow the vote in FL Ca and Ny! Those are the three States that would elect a popular vote candidate anyway.


27 posted on 04/18/2014 6:52:34 AM PDT by DocJhn
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To: ScottinVA

It’s already time to start worrying.

The blue states enacting this into law will make the red states far more vulnerable far more quickly.

You see, once these laws are passed, the leftists don’t need to worry about those states in the national elections any longer. They will be wrapped up and however the major cities go, that’s how the state goes. And that is hardcore leftist.

The leftists will then have that much more time and MONEY to concentrate on the purple and red states.

As David Horowitz says, the left is engaged in the art of political war. The rest of the country is watching TV and figuring out how to be kinder, gentler, more social.


28 posted on 04/18/2014 6:53:25 AM PDT by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (Prepare for survival.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Liberals that are for this that I have talked to think our country is a democracy and don’t understand a republic.

If we went to Nat’l popular vote, candidates wouldn’t have to bother making promises to voters in States that have a majority opposition, just hit the cities where most voters are friendly.


29 posted on 04/18/2014 6:53:58 AM PDT by Rusty0604
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To: SeekAndFind

oh yeah, it benefits New York to have it gone which is why the thing was implemented


30 posted on 04/18/2014 6:56:42 AM PDT by yldstrk ( My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: SeekAndFind

Actually, I believe that the numerous independent recounts in FLA showed that Bush would have won the NPV.


31 posted on 04/18/2014 7:00:59 AM PDT by Cletus.D.Yokel (Catastrophic Anthropogenic Climate Alterations - The Acronym explains the science.)
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To: Gen.Blather

RRR

Remember Ronald Reagan.

He won every state except Minnesota in 1984........................


32 posted on 04/18/2014 7:03:25 AM PDT by Red Badger (Soon there will be another American Civil War. Will make the first one seem like a Tea Party........)
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To: yldstrk

This is how red states should respond.

They will be counting votes by county with each county receiving one point. The candidate that wins the most counties wins the electoral vote of that state.

It keeps the constitution in place and also removes voter fraud and disenfranchisement, since a county only gets one point, the popular vote in that county can be 150% and no one is disenfranchised.

Call it a fire wall to prevent voter fraud disenfranchising an entire state. The rats cannot argue it because it takes away their talking points.


33 posted on 04/18/2014 7:04:07 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz ("Heck of a reset there, Hillary")
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To: Ghost of Philip Marlowe; Gen.Blather

I wonder if any of these laws have any ‘escape clause’ that allows the governor to exit out of the compact if it looks like the other party will win the PV.................


34 posted on 04/18/2014 7:05:22 AM PDT by Red Badger (Soon there will be another American Civil War. Will make the first one seem like a Tea Party........)
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To: Rusty0604
If we went to Nat’l popular vote, candidates wouldn’t have to bother making promises to voters in States that have a majority opposition, just hit the cities where most voters are friendly.

This basic problem exists in the current system. Ohio (& Florida) elect our presidents. Candidates ignore Texas, California & New York (except for fundraising) because their electoral votes are a foregone conclusion.

35 posted on 04/18/2014 7:06:21 AM PDT by gdani (Every day, your Govt surveils you more than the day before)
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To: Procyon

Voting age of 12 with steak and potatoes in their lunch.


36 posted on 04/18/2014 7:08:09 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: gdani

That’s true, but I read several report of voter fraud in those States also.


37 posted on 04/18/2014 7:09:00 AM PDT by Rusty0604
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To: Red Badger

“I wonder if any of these laws have any ‘escape clause’ that allows the governor to exit out of the compact if it looks like the other party will win the PV.................”

Funny, I had the same thought. They certainly wouldn’t want to add their votes to the other party and give them a win if they don’t have to. But it occurs to me if they do (a good possibility) then that is the legal attack vector.


38 posted on 04/18/2014 7:13:29 AM PDT by Gen.Blather
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To: SC_Pete
The Republic is almost totally dismantled. Only Article V. can begin to save it.

Do you really want to trust this process to the Oprah/We Elected Obama TWICE populace?

Let alone to the spineless legislators without a shred of integrity?

And Hillery's FBI file collection

And the DNC/MSM data mining of IRS tax returns, census data, capriciously unsealed civil court records, etc?

39 posted on 04/18/2014 7:15:58 AM PDT by BwanaNdege
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To: Procyon

Of course. Deep blue state never had to do vote cheating like liberal parts of swing states now do. With this scheme, the deeply embedded liberal power structure will mine every cemetery and mortuary for votes. Bad idea.


40 posted on 04/18/2014 7:28:52 AM PDT by fhayek
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