Posted on 04/11/2014 11:23:53 AM PDT by Jim Robinson
Nevada rancher Cliven Bundy’s decades-long battle against the federal government over grazing rights has heated to the point where militia groups have joined in and taken up spots against the feds who’ve circled his land — and talk is, they’re not afraid to open fire.
A spokesman for the one of the militia groups said as much to local 8 News Now: I’m not “afraid to shoot,” he said.
Margaret Houston, Mr. Bundy’s sister and a cancer survivor, said at a town hall gathering this week that the situation “was like a war zone” and that she felt “like I was not in the United States,” The Daily Mail reported. The Las Vegas Review-Journal described it this way: “Serious bloodshed was narrowly avoided,” in a story about how dogs were unleashed on a woman who was pregnant while the rancher’s son was hit with a taser.
On Tuesday, armed Bureau of Land Management agents stormed Mr. Bundy’s property, escalating a court dispute that’s wound for two decades over the rancher’s refusal to pay for grazing fees.
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Now militia groups are on the scene, promising to help the Bundys keep up the fight.
“This is what we do, we provide armed response,” Jim Lordy, with Operation Mutual Aid, told the local broadcast station. “They have guns. We need guns to protect ourselves from the tyrannical government.”
Mr. Lordy also said “many more” militia groups are coming to the site to join in the Bundy family defense.
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Got to watch out for those turtle-eating cows.
apparently DC insiders have given oil drilling permists for the same land...
think bengazi was about video
Yes, the fedguv can own land. I always wondered about what kind of needful buildings were located on vast wastelands. Yes, we really needed 100,000 acres for ranger stations that are needed...because now we have 100,000 acres of land. Maybe someone has a different take on that clause :)
So you can’t graze around oil rigs?
Anyhow what about the cows. If he cared about the cows they’d be moved to some other grazing.
I have heard everything possible on this situation. He refused to pay. The cost was raised to the point it was ridiculous. The BLM stopped taking lease money. Since 50 grazers have been forced out already something smells like B.S.
That is what I was waiting for ... Thank You Starstruck. Has anyone interviewed any of these 50 to have their opinions on the record?
A couple hundred armed feds using dogs and Tasers against people who are not an immediate danger, and armed militia members who are not “afraid to shoot”, all triggered by grazing fees? If this is a contest to see who can be stupider, both sides look capable of accomplishing surprising things. I’d warn the militia that the feds are led by the world’s expert in the area of acting stupidly. I hope those civilians will be cautious, make prudent decisions, and ostentatiously film everything so that the facts will come out accurately. It would be nice if both sides would back off, but I’m not an optimist, not with the facts on the ground for both sides.
I wonder, since there are those here that argue the FEDERAL government is the almighty in this, and other cases, and they quote 19th century rulings and treaties, that if they would oppose the old Land Grants that were given back in those days.
So, they quote 19th century rulings, treaties et al, but ignore a 18th century document that founded the United States. A document that, it was the States who formed this federal government.
What if the shooting does start? Think about that. I mean, really think about it. Maybe he should have submitted and paid the unjust fees like everyone else, but he didn’t. He took the risk and stood up against them. Does that make him a criminal? Remember, the government is are our servant. So what if the shooting starts? A man who isn’t a criminal will be murdered by the federal government that you would agree is tyrannical. The same government who is ignoring our borders and has given up huge chunks of Arizona to drug cartels. That government has come out in force against a cattle rancher.
I think the shooting will not start. The feds will deescalate.
Remember, just last week Hussein 0bama announced that he was going to do something about "cow flatulence" to reduce globull warming? When the words came out of his ugly face I knew that meant reduction in cattle herds, and what better way to do this than to restrict grazing and seize herds of family farmers. Never mind that beef prices are already through the roof.
“I ask you, Father in Heaven, to calm the souls of all your children in NV, so that a peaceful outcome may be achieved. In Jesus name I pray, amen.”
5.56mm
Amen. I don’t see any peaceful resolution to this without the help of the Lord, our God.
The BLM is engaging in intimidation tactics against Clive Bundy. There is no need for a small-scale, armed invasion to remove cows from public land.
That said, Cliven Bundy does not share the views of conservative FReepers who value the U.S. Constitution as the supreme law of the land and are fighting tooth-and-nail to restore it as such.
Not a citizen of the United States? That should be anathema to any conservative.
Ping to post # 47. Why did you close your public land? You can’t make any rent money if it is closed.
America’s own Ukraine!
So this is how it starts...
I have a good synopsis of the Reid / Bundy Ranch connection here http://www.futurnamics.com/reid_bundyranch.php
Lots of links.
He took the risk and stood up against them.
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He and a couple of others do not consider it a risk. They expect and accept that they will be killed. They simply will not budge. This is the Alamo to them.
are there only 2 sides?
is the militia on the same side as the family?
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